Minato's Databook Score!

[Gold Lightning]

His strength should probably be the same as Jiraya's just to be on the safe side. imo he's a 5 but some will strongly disagree.

I think Minato derves a 38 overall though for sure.

 

[Penguin]

Still sour because Minato has left Tobirama in dust? Lol

You think I care that Minato has better feats? Lol

I like both characters, but damn. Quit with the over wankage.

 

[Gold Lightning]

You think I care that Minato has better feats? Lol

I like both characters, but damn. Quit with the over wankage.

Tobirama is more boss than Minato, Minato has the better swagger, but both have the same level of badassery.

 

[Penguin]

Tobirama is more boss than Minato, Minato has the better swagger, but both have the same level of badassery.

Not with recent chapters. Tobirama carries himself better than Minato, albeit Minato being better in some areas. But Kishi does not use enhancements in DB scores. Only base.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Not with recent chapters. Tobirama carries himself better than Minato, albeit Minato being better in some areas. But Kishi does not use enhancements in DB scores. Only base.

You guys seem to forget that you don't base a character over a a few chapters. When Minato first arrived on the battlefield, he was putting Tobirama to shame, then after losing his arm vice verse happened. Plus Minato is around his son again who he never really got to meet or see grow up, his student disappointed him greatly so of course his performance dipped a bit. Tobirama had no emotional hinderinces in this war.

Plus Minato was already well portrayed in the Kakashi gaiden arc and the Kyuubi attack on Konoha chapters. Obviously Tobirama with 0 feats needs to get a bit more attention than Minato.

If I were to list every bad ass feat Minato has ever done, it would trump Tobirama's.

 

[Penguin]

You guys seem to forget that you don't base a character over a a few chapters. When Minato first arrived on the battlefield, he was putting Tobirama to shame, then after losing his arm vice verse happened. Plus Minato is around his son again who he never really got to meet or see grow up, his student disappointed him greatly so of course his performance dipped a bit. Tobirama had no emotional hinderinces in this war.

Plus Minato was already well portrayed in the Kakashi gaiden arc and the Kyuubi attack on Konoha chapters. Obviously Tobirama with 0 feats needs to get a bit more attention than Minato.

If I were to list every bad ass feat Minato has ever done, it would trump Tobirama's.

Putting Tobirama to shame? He got there first and teleported the bombs, saved the alliance, attacked Obito, etc. That is great, but that isn't being bad ass. The way in which you do said feats defines one's swagger and bad assness.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Putting Tobirama to shame? He got there first and teleported the bombs, saved the alliance, attacked Obito, etc. That is great, but that isn't being bad ass. The way in which you do said feats defines one's swagger and bad assness.

I was exagerating about putting Tobirama to shame, but you get my point

And you're forgetting these:
- His entrance alone was the best out of everyone elses.
- Receives praise for his shunshin from Tobirama
- He set up the markings for the barrier so quickly and got praise from Tobirama and Hiruzen
- He then goes into chakra mode for the first time without any training (was that not badass enough for you)
- Saves Naruto & Sasuke from death by Obito

So what was wrong in the way Minato did things? When he did the markings and the KCM he was all cool and composed as if it was no sweat. His entrance is one of the greatest poses in the entire manga, how were these not badass?

And again, are you going to forget all Minato's previous feats from before this arc? You can't just disregard them because Tobirama's one's are more recent. That's just kishi being a good writer and showing off others too.

 

[Penguin]

I was exagerating about putting Tobirama to shame, but you get my point

And you're forgetting these:
- His entrance alone was the best out of everyone elses.
- Receives praise for his shunshin from Tobirama
- He set up the markings for the barrier so quickly and got praise from Tobirama and Hiruzen
- He then goes into chakra mode for the first time without any training (was that not badass enough for you)
- Saves Naruto & Sasuke from death by Obito

So what was wrong in the way Minato did things? When he did the markings and the KCM he was all cool and composed as if it was no sweat. His entrance is one of the greatest poses in the entire manga, how were these not badass?

And again, are you going to forget all Minato's previous feats from before this arc? You can't just disregard them because Tobirama's one's are more recent. That's just kishi being a good writer and showing off others too.

I am not de-hyping Minato or anything. His entrance was nice and flashy, but did not have swag. I am not forgetting any of his feats, nor am I saying Tobirama has better feats [some of his feats were better than Minato's though], but the way in which he performed them gave Tobirama this bad ass demeanor. He called Minato mentally challenged, FTG'd Obito's ball and gave him back talk, etc. The way he does it and what he says gives him this demeanor.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I am not de-hyping Minato or anything. His entrance was nice and flashy, but did not have swag. I am not forgetting any of his feats, nor am I saying Tobirama has better feats [some of his feats were better than Minato's though], but the way in which he performed them gave Tobirama this bad ass demeanor. He called Minato mentally challenged, FTG'd Obito's ball and gave him back talk, etc. The way he does it and what he says gives him this demeanor.

No, that's just Tobirama's personality. He has a badass, always serious type personality, that's just how he is.

His entrance did not have swag? If I was to make a thread and poll asking if Minato's entrance had swag, I assure you that you'd be in the minority.

Because from what you are saying, I gather that Tobirama is more badass/has more swagger because his personality is more serious than Minato's. He called Minato mentally challenged.... Soooo what? That was a little comedy kishi put in there. Kishi was just showing the difference between the two, Tobirama is more serious, Minato is serious but more light hearted.

Realistically Tobirama has a boring personality and needs to lighten up. Sorry but it seems the way you class being a badass and havng swagger differs from my own. It's like you are saying Minato needs to be a stick in the mud in order for his feats to have more swagger U_U

 

[Penguin]

No, that's just Tobirama's personality. He has a badass, always serious type personality, that's just how he is.

His entrance did not have swag? If I was to make a thread and poll asking if Minato's entrance had swag, I assure you that you'd be in the minority.

Because from what you are saying, I gather that Tobirama is more badass/has more swagger because his personality is more serious than Minato's. He called Minato mentally challenged.... Soooo what? That was a little comedy kishi put in there. Kishi was just showing the difference between the two, Tobirama is more serious, Minato is serious but more light hearted.

Realistically Tobirama has a boring personality and needs to lighten up. Sorry but it seems the way you class being a badass and havng swagger differs from my own. It's like you are saying Minato needs to be a stick in the mud in order for his feats to have more swagger U_U

I can't believe we are arguing over swag. u.u

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Yes, agreed.

Not swag, but it was bad ass. One of Minato's most bad ass moments bar FTG V2.

Minato didn't even say anything to the **** comment Tobirama made. He was being a push over. The latest chapters ruined Minato for me. :|

 

[Gold Lightning]

I can't believe we are arguing over swag. u.u

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Yes, agreed.

Not swag, but it was bad ass. One of Minato's most bad ass moments bar FTG V2.

Minato didn't even say anything to the **** comment Tobirama made. He was being a push over. The latest chapters ruined Minato for me. :|

To be honest when I first mentioned swag, I meant their attire

And lets not forget Tobirama is Minato's superior, as in older than Minato, he has to take it and be respectful. Hence why he calls them lord 1st and 2nd. Minato is polite, he even call Sasuke-Kun, and Orochimaru-San, it's not him being a push over.

Why has Minato been ruined, I understand he's been disappointing with the lack of an arm(arms now -_-) but he's had his time to shine for now. Plus him getting sage mode kind of relieved me of my Minato disappointment.

 

[Minator93]

You think I care that Minato has better feats? Lol

I like both characters, but damn. Quit with the over wankage.

Lol you're not the only one, I like Tobirama as well, in fact I've been his fan since Ch 502! And as you know I'm the only one that defends Tobirama against EMS Madara, EMS Sasuke and Nagato, in fact made lengthy thread on the matter.

You didn't realize the poke and took it seriously U_U

 

[roncato]

He's not a perfect sage, god this fanboy....

 

[Valhorus]

He's not a perfect sage, god this fanboy....

Yup he is , god this hater....

 

[Vapid]

More bad than good, specifically Genjutsu, Stamina, Strength, and Hand Seals.

Genjutsu
We haven't seen or heard anything about Minato using Genjutsu, so being ".5" points higher than Jiraiya, someone who has used Genjutsu, is just wrong. A "2.5" would be more accurate.

Stamina
Whether or not you can become a perfect sage doesn't depend on your stamina. On top of that, he himself said that he can't maintain it for long ("maintain" = stamina). A "5" is overkill and blatantly incorrect; a "3.5" would be more accurate.

Strength
"5" is ridiculous. Oro is "3.5" and even Jiraiya is a "4.5". A "3.5" would be more accurate.

Hand Seals
Minato usually relied on his speed/FTG; no Hand Seals required. From what we've seen in the anime, a "4" would be more accurate.

More realistic total DB score: 33.5

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

like most people, I disagree on taijustu and strength.. Other than that, seems legit.

 

[Gold Lightning]

More bad than good, specifically Genjutsu, Stamina, Strength, and Hand Seals.

Genjutsu
We haven't seen or heard anything about Minato using Genjutsu, so being ".5" points higher than Jiraiya, someone who has used Genjutsu, is just wrong. A "2.5" would be more accurate.

Stamina
Whether or not you can become a perfect sage doesn't depend on your stamina. On top of that, he himself said that he can't maintain it for long ("maintain" = stamina). A "5" is overkill and blatantly incorrect; a "3.5" would be more accurate.

Strength
"5" is ridiculous. Oro is "3.5" and even Jiraiya is a "4.5". A "3.5" would be more accurate.

Hand Seals
Minato usually relied on his speed/FTG; no Hand Seals required. From what we've seen in the anime, a "4" would be more accurate.

More realistic total DB score: 33.5

lol, some real bs right here

 

[Minator93]

He's not a perfect sage, god this fanboy....

Lel read the manga more correctly. Lol this dim-witted slow person.

 

[RikudouMadara]

More bad than good, specifically Genjutsu, Stamina, Strength, and Hand Seals.

Genjutsu
We haven't seen or heard anything about Minato using Genjutsu, so being ".5" points higher than Jiraiya, someone who has used Genjutsu, is just wrong. A "2.5" would be more accurate.

Stamina
Whether or not you can become a perfect sage doesn't depend on your stamina. On top of that, he himself said that he can't maintain it for long ("maintain" = stamina). A "5" is overkill and blatantly incorrect; a "3.5" would be more accurate.

Strength
"5" is ridiculous. Oro is "3.5" and even Jiraiya is a "4.5". A "3.5" would be more accurate.

Hand Seals
Minato usually relied on his speed/FTG; no Hand Seals required. From what we've seen in the anime, a "4" would be more accurate.

More realistic total DB score: 33.5

I believe he makes a good point, but the SM wouldn't be for his entire stamina, would it? I think he's more accurate than anyone. I think we all just see what we want...lets just wait on Kishi guys. >_O

 

[Gold Lightning]

I believe he makes a good point, but the SM wouldn't be for his entire stamina, would it? I think he's more accurate than anyone. I think we all just see what we want...lets just wait on Kishi guys. >_O

He doesn't make a good point at all. Jiraya has a 5 in stamina even though he's not a perfect sage, Fukasaku says you can't even handle natural energy unless you have "Enormous" chakra. If you don't have enormous chakra then the senjutsu would take you over and you'd turn into a toad according to Fukasaku. Now jiraya turns into a partial toad, which suggests his chakra is high but not high enough and even after that he still gets a 5. Now if minato his student who surpassed him can perfectly balance natural energy and become a perfect sage, then of course he has a 5 in stamina.

Then he says 4 in hand seals even though minato can perform high level sealing jutsu with just one hand... Come on, be serious now.

Then he says 2.5 in genjutsu even though jiraya himself said he is terrible at genjutsu yet still gets a 3. Genma has a 3 I'm genjutsu, Shizune and Anko both have 4 in genjutsu and they have no feats to their name. So how can minato, a Hokage not even get atleast a 3.5-4?