[Theory] Speculation surrounding "Rikudou Naruto"

[Trea]

Naruto probably will get the rinnegan since he will be the new SO6p and is the inheritor of his will. The Sage had it and he probably will have it too. I don't think he will have it all of the time though like Nagato had it since those were Madara's eyes. I think maybe he will have it when he turns on Sage mode. I'm not sure Kishi wants to change his looks much. He's pretty much looked the same since he was little.

He and Obito were in each others minds so Obito knew which chakra was missing, which is why he only pulled out part of the one tail and eight tails.

As for whatever power ups Sasuke gets I think they will compliment Naruto's so one will not be able to beat the other. If and when they do fight they will either both die or they will both be badly wounded. They will be on an even field so that when all is said and done they will have to work together for the good of the village. Which is what went wrong with the Sage's sons and Hashi and Madara. Righting the wrongs of the past is part of what Naruto is supposed to be about.

 

[valandil988]

Can you give me a brief description and example of integrals? I believe we're doing that towards the end of the course, because we're doing derivatives right now. I would like to know how integrals tie in to Calculus beforehand.

Umm, I'm a bit confused by this, essentially they are finding the area under a graph Intergrals and Derivatives are finding the gradient of a graph at a particular value of y or x etc.

They are opposing mechanisms. Ie you differentiate a formula you can integrate it to get the original formula.

That's how they "tie" in, other than that calculus is just added complication, depending on how complicated the formula is you are working with you need to use various "tricks" such as integration by parts etc to help you simplify things. Depending on if your working with higher order polynomials you can expect to always have to use the by parts method or others. Lawl forgotten the others .

Been ages since I've done them (-_-)

 

[Mr Hiru]

Umm, I'm a bit confused by this, essentially they are finding the area under a graph Intergrals and Derivatives are finding the gradient of a graph at a particular value of y or x etc.

They are opposing mechanisms. Ie you differentiate a formula you can integrate it to get the original formula.

That's how they "tie" in, other than that calculus is just added complication, depending on how complicated the formula is you are working with you need to use various "tricks" such as integration by parts etc to help you simplify things. Depending on if your working with higher order polynomials you can expect to always have to use the by parts method or others. Lawl forgotten the others .

And in terms of physical concepts, the Derivatives were made to analyze a local property in a specific point of time, while Integrals were made to analyze a global property between two points of time.

ie. Derivative of distance (vs time): Speed
ie. Integral of speed (vs time): Distance

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto probably will get the rinnegan since he will be the new SO6p and is the inheritor of his will. The Sage had it and he probably will have it too. I don't think he will have it all of the time though like Nagato had it since those were Madara's eyes. I think maybe he will have it when he turns on Sage mode. I'm not sure Kishi wants to change his looks much. He's pretty much looked the same since he was little.

He and Obito were in each others minds so Obito knew which chakra was missing, which is why he only pulled out part of the one tail and eight tails.

As for whatever power ups Sasuke gets I think they will compliment Naruto's so one will not be able to beat the other. If and when they do fight they will either both die or they will both be badly wounded. They will be on an even field so that when all is said and done they will have to work together for the good of the village. Which is what went wrong with the Sage's sons and Hashi and Madara. Righting the wrongs of the past is part of what Naruto is supposed to be about.

Completely agreed. Couldn't have said it any better.

Umm, I'm a bit confused by this, essentially they are finding the area under a graph Intergrals and Derivatives are finding the gradient of a graph at a particular value of y or x etc.

They are opposing mechanisms. Ie you differentiate a formula you can integrate it to get the original formula.

That's how they "tie" in, other than that calculus is just added complication, depending on how complicated the formula is you are working with you need to use various "tricks" such as integration by parts etc to help you simplify things. Depending on if your working with higher order polynomials you can expect to always have to use the by parts method or others. Lawl forgotten the others .

Been ages since I've done them (-_-)

Haha, I see. I know what derivatives are, that's what we're doing now. But thanks for the information.

And in terms of physical concepts, the Derivatives were made to analyze a local property in a specific point of time, while Integrals were made to analyze a global property between two points of time.

ie. Derivative of distance (vs time): Speed
ie. Integral of speed (vs time): Distance

Yea, it ties in to physics as well, as derivatives are essentially the core of Calculus. Ds/Dt (Distance as viewed as speed over Distance viewed as time).

But, the meaning of my comment was just in anticipation of integrals, as we have two units of derivatives.

 

[valandil988]

^^

IF your doing a physics degree just prepare for a grind.

 

[Bronze]

Nice one Katsura

 

[Transcendence]

^^

IF your doing a physics degree just prepare for a grind.

Haha, naww. I'm getting in to Medical Sciences.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Yea, it ties in to physics as well, as derivatives are essentially the core of Calculus. Ds/Dt (Distance as viewed as speed over Distance viewed as time).

But, the meaning of my comment was just in anticipation of integrals, as we have two units of derivatives.

that's ok, I just wanted to say something Lol.

I feel relieved about physics, they were a pain in my ass some years ago. Now I'm graduated in computer sciences so I can go out and drink some good beer, and analyze the effect of pressure and density of the beverage, calmly.

XD

 

[Draw]

i feel like if naruto gets some god tier power it will be through an elderly sage and he will lend his strength to naruto and that the elder sages power wont be as potent as his prime obviously and he wont have the juubi itself in him so the power he lends will balance out him vs madara and i could see something maybe getting a little out of control and controversy occuring within naruto's self conscious because maybe the rikudo will totally take over naruto and he does something out of character like kills madara (like Raizen and Yusuke) and that would be a plot twist and then naruto will have more development and a sense of guilt for killing madara. but that probably wont happen cause the sage has been said to be a pacifist. but i think the elder sages power will be just enough to help naruto help win but i dont think he will keep any juubi power or anything like that after the war. it will be a temporary thing. the only way is if sasuke gets a comparable power and i think sasuke underweighs naruto getting any sort of juubi power. In my opinion. Sasuke should just keep EMS and just absorb jugo or orochimaru for his power up, and Naruto should only get the full nine tails by the end of the series. If Sasuke got a new dojutsu that was not the sharingan, and if Naruto had something in him that wasnt the nine tails it wouldnt be the same story. i cant see kishimoto following through with that major change to the characters dynamic. Sasuke represents the Sharingan and Naruto represents the Nine Tails. Anything can happen, but any power Naruto gets from the juubi or the sage imo will only be temporary

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

So much discussion about Math. I barely even know the basics of Calculus, maybe because I'm Asian

 

[Transcendence]

So much discussion about Math. I barely even know the basics of Calculus, maybe because I'm Asian

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Really? I didn't know that

 

[Waltz]

Excellent work, Katsura. I must say you've successfully persuaded me in that line of thinking. ​

 

[Transcendence]

Excellent work, Katsura. I must say you've successfully persuaded me in that line of thinking. ​

If I have persuaded you, then I have accomplished all I need to. ​

 

[nite]

the rinnegan foreshadow cood also mean rinnegan has his back as in sasuke cood be the one who gets it as well. nice theory though.

 

[adeshina365]

If I have persuaded you, then I have accomplished all I need to. ​

You haven't persuaded me

Edit: It could be chapter 667 that will make either one of us look like clowns.

 

[Transcendence]

You haven't persuaded me

My comment towards Waltz was because he is one of the more skeptical people on the forums as he sticks directly to the manga. So if he finds no initial holes in the premise, it is solid. And admittedly, you are tough to crack, but the premise is still sound. And I did answer your question in the other thread. We'll fine out in the coming chapters what proves true.​

 

[adeshina365]

My comment towards Waltz was because he is one of the more skeptical people on the forums as he sticks directly to the manga. So if he finds no initial holes in the premise, it is solid. And admittedly, you are tough to crack, but the premise is still sound. And I did answer your question in the other thread. We'll fine out in the coming chapters what proves true.​

I know. You should know that it isn't too late to change to my side....

...don't be on the loosing side of history... :snick:

 

[Transcendence]

I know. You should know that it isn't too late to change to my side....

...don't be on the loosing side of history... :snick:

I will stick to my beliefs for now. I feel there is enough in the manga to make a plausible case for what it presented in the OP. Regardless of possible fundamental problems that people see with Naruto having the Rin'negan (without acknowledging that Sasuke basically mastered Enton/Amaterasu within half a chapter, Madara mastered Sage Mode in one panel, Obito mastered Kamui before even knowing he had it etc.), I'll stand by it. Even if I am wrong, I can say I made a strong case for it. ​

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke basically mastered Enton/Amaterasu within half a chapter​

Even as a Sasuke fan I don't believe that he has mastered either Enton or Amaterasu yet.

Madara mastered Sage Mode in one panel​

The Sage chakra that Madara stole went straight to his "Hashi-boob". Madara hasn't shown the ability to fully release Senjutsu chakra; hence, the chakra is concentrated only in Hashirama's cells. Without Hashirama's chakra Madara wouldn't be abe to accomplish this feat. Either way, he hasn't "mastered" Sage Mode.

Obito mastered Kamui before even knowing he had it etc.​

He didn't master Kamui at the time; after defeating the Mist Shinobi, he is seen struggling to stay tangible to hold Rin.

As I've stated some months ago, Doujutsu is a completely foreign area of Ninjutsu to Naruto.