Summoning Kurama

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Sorry if this has been covered I couldn't find another thread asking what I wanted to know so sorry in advance if I missed it.

My question is, do we have any(or do you think we will get any) information on why Madara and Obito could summon a tailed beast while not being jinchuriki?

The whole incident confuses me. So it's possible to summon a Tailed Beast away from it's jinchuriki? Because that's what Obito did, what's the point in sealing a Tailed beast(at least Kurama) inside a host if someone can just summon him away?

On another note, summonings need a contract, correct? So Tailed Beasts have contracts now? And how would Madara and Obito have signed this contract?
 

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they cant summon it if its in a jin.

madara tried and naruto was floored.


they could have used it too kill him
 

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Madara controlled Kurama with the sharingan that's why he could summon it. There's no contract.

And no you can't summon the bijuu when it's sealed in a jin. Madara tried to do it when he was ressurected, but failed.
 

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Obito and Madara couldn't summon Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki.
Madara's summoning failed because Kurama was inside Naruto.
Obito never summoned Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki (here out of Kushina). He controlled Kurama and then released it out of Kushina.
 

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This is just my personal opinion. Madara and obito cannot summon tailed beast when the tailed beast was sealed inside a host. Only when the tailed beast was extracted from the host then they can summon it. It is simple, they control the tailed beast with their eye power. Just like obito did when he attack konoha.
 

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Madara controlled Kurama with the sharingan that's why he could summon it. There's no contract.

And no you can't summon the bijuu when it's sealed in a jin. Madara tried to do it when he was ressurected, but failed.
This.

Only Hashirama or a Sharingan user can control Bijuu outside of vessels.
 

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Obito and Madara couldn't summon Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki.
Madara's summoning failed because Kurama was inside Naruto.
Obito never summoned Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki (here out of Kushina). He controlled Kurama and then released it out of Kushina.

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OT: Madara got the contract by unknown means, but Obito got his through the teaching of Madara.
 

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OT: Madara got the contract by unknown means, but Obito got his through the teaching of Madara.
Saved me the time thanks.

To any one who said they never summoned Kurama check out this guy's scan, Obito summoned Kurama from Kushina(a Jin) and made him attack Konoha. Granted she was giving birth so I'm sure that will be used as to explain why they could take it from her but not Naruto.
 
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The sharingan creates a temporary contract with a creature that is under the control of the user. The user can then proceed to summon the controlled creature any time he or she wishes. Sharingan users cannot summon a bijuu outside a jinchuriki. Madara attempted it and failed.
 

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OT: Madara got the contract by unknown means, but Obito got his through the teaching of Madara.

You bolded an incomplete statement. That statement says, " Obito never summoned Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki..."
And that scan you showed, Obito summoned Kurama after the extraction as well by controlling it with Sharingan.
 

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Saved me the time thanks.

To any one who said they never summoned Kurama check out this guy's scan, Obito summoned Kurama from Kushina(a Jin) and made him attack Konoha. Granted she was giving birth so I'm sure that will be used as to explain why they could take it from her but not Naruto.
Dude obito had to unseal the kyuubi from kushina, control it with his sharingan before he proceeded to summon it in konoha. He can't just sommon it like that from within a jinchuriki.
 

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Saved me the time thanks.

To any one who said they never summoned Kurama check out this guy's scan, Obito summoned Kurama from Kushina(a Jin) and made him attack Konoha. Granted she was giving birth so I'm sure that will be used as to explain why they could take it from her but not Naruto.
He had already released the Kyubbi from kushina Don't say stupid things
 

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You bolded an incomplete statement. That statement says, " Obito never summoned Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki..."
And that scan you showed, Obito summoned Kurama after the extraction as well by controlling it with Sharingan.
Agree with you. Obito extract first than summon it.
 

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The sharingan creates a temporary contract with a creature that is under the control of the user. The user can then proceed to summon the controlled creature any time he or she wishes. Sharingan users cannot summon a bijuu outside a jinchuriki. Madara attempted it and failed.
Surprisingly enough, it all depends on the hosts discretion...
 

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You bolded an incomplete statement. That statement says, " Obito never summoned Kurama out of a Jinchuuriki..."
And that scan you showed, Obito summoned Kurama after the extraction as well by controlling it with Sharingan.
I was going to highlight the whole thing...

"He controlled Kurama and then released it out of Kushina."

He extracted the beast first, then summoned it over the village.

The way you worded it was wrong...
 

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Madara controlled Kurama with the sharingan that's why he could summon it. There's no contract.

And no you can't summon the bijuu when it's sealed in a jin. Madara tried to do it when he was ressurected, but failed.
yeah you should stop posting now.

this is twice in a row ive caught you in places you dont belong


ot- how do you summon kurama with sharingan? Kurama was madara's summon

Madara came back to life and tried to summon kurama again not knowing what minato did and ktfo outa naruto
get over it
 

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yeah you should stop posting now.

this is twice in a row ive caught you in places you dont belong


ot- how do you summon kurama with sharingan? Kurama was madara's summon

Madara came back to life and tried to summon kurama again not knowing what minato did and ktfo outa naruto
get over it
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Oh smd, you crack me up everytime.
 

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yeah you should stop posting now.

this is twice in a row ive caught you in places you dont belong


ot- how do you summon kurama with sharingan? Kurama was madara's summon

Madara came back to life and tried to summon kurama again not knowing what minato did and ktfo outa naruto
get over it
Yes I know it didn't work on Naruto but I still am curious how Madara can even summon it to begin with, every other summoning(of a living thing) we have seen requires the summoner to sign a contract with the summoned. Does this hold true for Tailed Beasts?

Also everyone saying Obito extracted Kurama from Kushina before he summoned it inside Konoha, you may be right but I don't remember that panel or implication so if any of you could/would post a scan or chapter number so I can re-look at that, it would be appreciated. I honestly don't remember seeing Obito do anything to Kushina, the way I remember it: Kushina was giving birth(which they said weakens the restraint on Kurama) then Obito summoned Kurama, then Minato fights Obito, then Minato puts ome of Kurama's chakra in Naruto while RDS'ing Kurama. I don't know what Obito did to "extract" Kurama from Kushina before controlling him, but he still summoned Kurama.
 

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Saved me the time thanks.

To any one who said they never summoned Kurama check out this guy's scan, Obito summoned Kurama from Kushina(a Jin) and made him attack Konoha. Granted she was giving birth so I'm sure that will be used as to explain why they could take it from her but not Naruto.
By that time he had already extracted kurama from kushina...
 
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