Gold Lightning
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Just like Naruto was in Bijuu mode and made a Sage mode clone, Minato can just do the same. He doesn't need BSM
[VS] Uzumaki Nagato and Namikaze Minato VS Senju Hashirama
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KingHashirama
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1. You want me to give you proof of something that doesn't exist? hmmm1- Can you give me a proof that he can't use own jutsu? :heh:
2- Says who? Base Minato was more than enough to leave Hashi and the others in the dust.
3- Yes, that's what the manga stated
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So, I stated before, he needs ALL the SA to work with him to do so.
2. Reflexes =/= shunshin. Hashirama without SM has mad reactions.. lol. And also, Minato was SENT ahead.. he didn't leave anyone in dust.
3. Reread the madara scan again. He was putting too much power in his main body.. and then had more clones out on the field spliting his power even more.. and then the wood clones became fodder to MADARA.. guy with rinnegan and EMS.. not Minato.
And then i guess you fail to see the part, where he says He'll guide them to the Sea? lol. Notice that Tobirama himself acknowledged that Hashirama was the only who could have done anything about them, since Tobirama and Minato couldn't use the space time barrier on all four.
1- No, I was referring to a reason to why he won't be able to use SM while using BM? It's just like saying hashi can't use the flower jutsu because we have never seen him using that. Or SM Hashi can't use any jutsu other than the Buddha (or the Buddha, wooden human, and dragon?) because we simply have not seen him using that while in SM.
2- Please give us scans for Hashi's great reactions (being better than Minato's?), and scans for Minato being "sent" a head because I don't remember such thing. :erm:
3- and thus they are fodders. Madara did not even need to stand up to destroy the clone. He did not even need to use v1 susanoo.
4- yeah, he will guide them to the see with the walls the he needs the SA for. As for tobirama, first of all he does not even have s/t barrier to begin with, unless you can give a scan for that? Second, Minato did not have his other arm and thus he couldn't use the s/t barrier.
Finally, you said "You want me to give you proof of something that doesn't exist? hmmm" so I'll assume that you have a proof of Hashi guiding the TBB and Tobirama using s/t barrier? (not only mentioning but actually DOING it) since it's only fair to apply the same logic you used for Minato not being able to use BSM to the senju bros? wouldn't you agree?
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KingHashirama
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1. False. Flower jutsu is HIS technique.. BSM is only Naruto's. I can't give Naruto's feat to Minato. Its like giving all of Hashirama's abilities to Madara.. doesn't work that way.1- No, I was referring to a reason to why he won't be able to use SM while using BM? It's just like saying hashi can't use the flower jutsu because we have never seen him using that. Or SM Hashi can't use any jutsu other than the Buddha (or the Buddha, wooden human, and dragon?) because we simply have not seen him using that while in SM.
2- Please give us scans for Hashi's great reactions (being better than Minato's?), and scans for Minato being "sent" a head because I don't remember such thing. :erm:
3- and thus they are fodders. Madara did not even need to stand up to destroy the clone. He did not even need to use v1 susanoo.
4- yeah, he will guide them to the see with the walls the he needs the SA for. As for tobirama, first of all he does not even have s/t barrier to begin with, unless you can give a scan for that? Second, Minato did not have his other arm and thus he couldn't use the s/t barrier.
Finally, you said "You want me to give you proof of something that doesn't exist? hmmm" so I'll assume that you have a proof of Hashi guiding the TBB and Tobirama using s/t barrier? (not only mentioning but actually DOING it) since it's only fair to apply the same logic you used for Minato not being able to use BSM to the senju bros? wouldn't you agree?
2. Hashirama using gamabunta sized hands to stop the PS sword, while it was nearly about to hit him. Boy didn't flinch. And right under that you can see how fast PS slashes are..
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Here Hiruzen and Tobirama tell Minato if he had already set up the Kunais:
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What were the Kunai's set up for? oh yea the 4 cornered Barrier.
3. So babsically you are going to keep denying the reason why those clones were fodders? ok.
4. You need both arms to use the barrier.. hence why it was problematic for them.. since Minato said he couldn't use his second arm.. What you thought they were gonna carry them? rofl. False, he states "I'LL " I don't see you all can help me.. He just told the alliance for doton wall , to increase the stability.. but mainly it was going to be him.. Since he freaking states it.. (Just stop denying stuff in the manga ;p)
False, not even in the same logic. Hashirama has Jukai Kouton.. He knows his capabilities .. He isn't the type to say that he is still stronger when he isn't.. And notice that Tobirama also went to Hashirama, to deal with the TBBs.. Because he knew he could.. And also, as for the Minato situation they were going to teleport 2 TBBs each.. Minato needed another arm for him to use the barrier seals.. sinc they can't simply carry the tbbs.. unless you want to show me they can..
pateuvasiliu
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Come on, Bogart.
I mean, we both trust in our lord and savior Minato, but...
COME ON.
Gold Lightning
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What has this got to do with Minato going on ahead?
Minato left the other Hokage in his dust using his body flicker, hence why Tobirama praised him saying "your shunshin is better than mine". He even made a pit stop at the sea to plant his kunai, then set up the other markings for the barrier before even using the s/t barrier. Why would they not all leave at the same time?