[VS] Uzumaki Nagato and Namikaze Minato VS Senju Hashirama

Who wins?

  • Minato and Nagato

    Votes: 18 69.2%
  • Hashirama

    Votes: 7 26.9%
  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • All Die

    Votes: 1 3.8%

  • Total voters
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Why would he even need that? Did he touch the Juubi's TBB, or did you see him touching Kurama's TBB to teleport the TBB? Because I'm sure I did not see that. So, please, let us see the scans that "you" out of all people saw him touching the TBBs to teleport them, and no one other than yourself saw that!
That was in regards to FTG, not S/T barrier, which wouldn't work, as Shinsusenju is not a projectile and its size is not comparable to a TBB. That thing was radically larger than the Kyuubi, dwarfing it.

Or are you trying to imply that hashi's Buddha is stronger than the Juubi's TBB?
You don't compare them like that. You compare the size and weight and in this case the Shinsusenju is bigger.

oh dear, the Hashi wank is too enormous as expected.
1- Asura rockets were able to do a lot of damage to the village [1][2].
Seriously? Comparing Hashirama's Mokuton to houses?

Onoki needed his SUPER dust release to get rid of Flower Tree World and Madara's Mokuton is weaker than Hashirama's.
 

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i hate on minato vs thread when people say he teleports something ftg is useless as an offensive attack in vs threads he has no seals set so no place to warp you to
 

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[=pateuvasiliu;14567946]That was in regards to FTG, not S/T barrier, which wouldn't work, as Shinsusenju is not a projectile and its size is not comparable to a TBB. That thing was radically larger than the Kyuubi, dwarfing it.
1- Well, still why would he use FTG when can use S/T barrier? :yeah:
2- And your point is? The TBB was bigger than the Juubi itself, not only Kurama!


it also was much bigger than the 8tails


and that was teleported by base Minato by the way.
You don't compare them like that. You compare the size and weight and in this case the Shinsusenju is bigger.
As I posted above, the TBB was bigger than the Juubi itself, which is bigger than the Buddha. And again that
was by base Minato, so even if you think base Minato can't use a bigger barrier, Kurama will give him enough chakra.

Seriously? Comparing Hashirama's Mokuton to houses?
What durability does the wood have? I don't care if he's Hashirama or who the hell he is, if he does not have
durability feats, the he does not have them. The wood is easily cut by even normal things.





and there are even more, unless you're trying to imply that Hashi's wood is stronger or bigger than the god Tree as well? :yeah:
or is this time you're trying to imply that the Samuri's swords and Tobirama's water jutsus are actually stronger than
Nagato's Rinnegan jutsus? :p
Onoki needed his SUPER dust release to get rid of Flower Tree World and Madara's Mokuton is weaker than Hashirama's.
1- The jinton Onoki used was a bit somewhat larger than his own body (which is tiny)
Nagato's Asura canon is bigger than entire structures, the different in size is obvious.

2- From where did you came up with madara's wood being weaker? I don't remember such thing has ever been stated!
manga scan please.:)
 
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Why is Nagato barely a factor? He'd give Hashirama a heck of a fight on his own, or is his Rinnegan seen as nothing now?

Can't believe how highly people rate hashirama. He's good but not God level like people make him out to be.
Because, none of his attacks can destroy Shin Sūsenju or the Wood Human which was on PS' level. I would go as far as to say a wood clone beats Nagato high diff.

But BM Minato is too much.
 

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2- And your point is? The TBB was bigger than the Juubi itself, not only Kurama!


it also was much bigger than the 8tails
At the end of the day it's still a construct, not a projectile. A TBB comes at a very high speed and is basically just a bomb. I mean come on, even as the second biggest Minato fanboy ( after Bogart ) I think Minato STing Shinsusenju is just ridiculous.

the Juubi itself, which is bigger than the Buddha
Not so sure about that. The buddha was what, 100 times bigger than 100% Kurama?

or is this time you're trying to imply that the Samuri's swords and Tobirama's water jutsus are actually stronger than
Nagato's Rinnegan jutsus?
Well, it's not like Asura killed anyone, ever. I simply find '' destroying houses '' a crappy feat. Even explosive tags can destroy houses.

1- The jinton Onoki used was a bit somewhat larger than his own body (which is tiny)


You kidding me? A cannon is a cannon, Jinton just MELTS stuff.

2- From where did you came up with madara's wood being weaker? I don't remember such thing has ever been stated!
Sage Mode.
 

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Because, none of his attacks can destroy Shin Sūsenju or the Wood Human which was on PS' level. I would go as far as to say a wood clone beats Nagato high diff.

But BM Minato is too much.
You're saying the same attack Nagato used to blow up the entire village won't dent the Buddha or CT won't trap it?

A wood clone?! Yep Hashirama is overrated. He's the strongest but he's overrated.
 

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Hashirama Senju.

Lets be honest.. neither Minato or Nagato have the abilities of Kurama + PS to make Hashirama even go SM.. Hashirama goes SM for things that cost wide range of destruction. Not for fighters who he can take on with the verstality of Mokuton.

Hashirama's wood clone can take on Nagato and separate the team.. while Minato can take on a wood clone or fight Hashirama.

Hashirama is the more versatile one here.. In the end they are going to be on Hashirama's battlefield, which is going to be their downfall.
 

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[=pateuvasiliu;14568219]At the end of the day it's still a construct, not a projectile. A TBB comes at a very high speed and is basically just a bomb. I mean come on, even as the second biggest Minato fanboy ( after Bogart ) I think Minato STing Shinsusenju is just ridiculous.

Not so sure about that. The buddha was what, 100 times bigger than 100% Kurama?
1- The berrier teleport everything touches it, no where in the manga does it say it has to be a projectile!
as for the high speed, the 8tails was in front of it and he tried to stop it, yet Minato teleported it even though
it did not bypass the 8tails, and Minato did not teleport the 8tails either. Therefore, even if it was standing still he
can teleport it.

2- The Buddha is indeed strong, but Minato is not facing it with raw power her, but just teleporting it. Minato's power
is far inferior to the Juubi's TBB as well, yet that did not stop him from teleporting the bomb. Or teleporting Kurama ...etc

3- 100% Kurama is the size of PS, which is also smaller than the Juubi
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Well, it's not like Asura killed anyone, ever. I simply find '' destroying houses '' a crappy feat. Even explosive tags can destroy houses.
The Buddha did not kill anyone either, the PS did not kill the Gokage, so they are weak? :p


You kidding me? A cannon is a cannon, Jinton just MELTS stuff.
I can't see any link from manga reader. However, What I was saying is Oboki's body is tine, and the jinton was bigger than him, so the jinton is around the avrage human's body size. However, Asura's path cannon is much bigger than that even when it used by the Asura path itself, let alone by Nagato who has Kurama's chakra.

Sage Mode.
Even though that might be a possibility, but he will still be FAR weaker than the god Tree which was cut easily.
Thus, we should know that the wood can be cut easily.
 

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1- The berrier teleport everything touches it, no where in the manga does it say it has to be a projectile!
as for the high speed, the 8tails was in front of it and he tried to stop it, yet Minato teleported it even though
it did not bypass the 8tails, and Minato did not teleport the 8tails either. Therefore, even if it was standing still he
can teleport it.

2- The Buddha is indeed strong, but Minato is not facing it with raw power her, but just teleporting it. Minato's power
is far inferior to the Juubi's TBB as well, yet that did not stop him from teleporting the bomb. Or teleporting Kurama ...etc

3- 100% Kurama is the size of PS, which is also smaller than the Juubi
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The Buddha did not kill anyone either, the PS did not kill the Gokage, so they are weak? :p

I can't see any link from manga reader. However, What I was saying is Oboki's body is tine, and the jinton was bigger than him, so the jinton is around the avrage human's body size. However, Asura's path cannon is much bigger than that even when it used by the Asura path itself, let alone by Nagato who has Kurama's chakra.


Even though that might be a possibility, but he will still be FAR weaker than the god Tree which was cut easily.
Thus, we should know that the wood can be cut easily.
Why does Hashirama summon the buddha in the first place? lol i'm so lost.

And not really.. Hashirama's mokuton can tank TBBs.. God Tree's branches can't..
 

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Why does Hashirama summon the buddha in the first place? lol i'm so lost.

And not really.. Hashirama's mokuton can tank TBBs.. God Tree's branches can't..
I don't know. U_U
Imo Hashi will lose either way honestly, whether he used the Buddha or not.
BSM Minato is too much for him to handle, with Nagato here as well, he won't last long IMO. U_U

- the TBB can be caught, but how can he catch a cannon? @.@
Also, only the wooden human accomplished that feat, that does not mean every wooden jutsu can do it.
For example, the wooden dragon got destroyed by the TBB.
 

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I don't know. U_U
Imo Hashi will lose either way honestly, whether he used the Buddha or not.
BSM Minato is too much for him to handle, with Nagato here as well, he won't last long IMO. U_U

- the TBB can be caught, but how can he catch a cannon? @.@
Also, only the wooden human accomplished that feat, that does not mean every wooden jutsu can do it.
For example, the wooden dragon got destroyed by the TBB.
BSM Minato = doesn't exist. Its like me claiming Bijuu Master Hashirama with 7 tailed beasts on his side.. And that will Analy rape team 1 bro.

- TBB can be easily dodged. Minato has never done a cannon.
- However, he can control that same wood as he pleases.

SS just limits his versatility.

And then you have the wood clones.. who have the power to keep on doing Jukai Kouton to lead the Juubi Tbb's to the ocean.
 

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BSM Minato = doesn't exist. Its like me claiming Bijuu Master Hashirama with 7 tailed beasts on his side.. And that will Analy rape team 1 bro.

- TBB can be easily dodged. Minato has never done a cannon.
- However, he can control that same wood as he pleases.

SS just limits his versatility.

And then you have the wood clones.. who have the power to keep on doing Jukai Kouton to lead the Juubi Tbb's to the ocean.
- Well, he has BM and he has SM, just because he did not use them at the same time that does not mean it does not
excite! It's just like when people said he can't use SM because he did not use it earlier, then the got butt-hurt!

- Actually he did it with Naruto. Also, Minato can teleport then attack, and teleport and attack at the same time,
I don't see Hashi handling that, unless you think he's as fast as JJ madara!

- Wood clones are fodder level, Minato can stomps them in a blink of an eye as he did to the fodders in the 3rd
ninja war. As for the bold, no. He said he needs the help from the entire SA to do so.
 

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- Well, he has BM and he has SM, just because he did not use them at the same time that does not mean it does not
excite! It's just like when people said he can't use SM because he did not use it earlier, then the got butt-hurt!

- Actually he did it with Naruto. Also, Minato can teleport then attack, and teleport and attack at the same time,
I don't see Hashi handling that, unless you think he's as fast as JJ madara!

- Wood clones are fodder level, Minato can stomps them in a blink of an eye as he did to the fodders in the 3rd
ninja war. As for the bold, no. He said he needs the help from the entire SA to do so.
- That precisely means it doesn't exist..

- FTG < SM reflexes. (If Hashirama himself even bothers to fight, which he will, since he likes fighting of course.)

- fodder level? oh really? lol. Well if you say so. And no reread, he specifically stated " I WILL LEAD THEM TO THE SEA, WITH JUKAI KOUTON"
 

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With BM included, Minato would solo this especially if he can combine BM and sage mode, which he should normally able to
 

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You're saying the same attack Nagato used to blow up the entire village won't dent the Buddha or CT won't trap it?

A wood clone?! Yep Hashirama is overrated. He's the strongest but he's overrated.
CST destroyed a village, that is cool. Buddha is way bigger than a village. The Buddha made the PS look like an ant.
 

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What the hell? As soon as Nagato is grabbed with wood-Dragon, it's over for him. Flower Tree World dazes Minato and once he's in Twin Wood Dragon's grasp, it's over for that fruit. Hashirama can produce landscape changing Mokuton Forest ... come on.
 

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- That precisely means it doesn't exist..

- FTG < SM reflexes. (If Hashirama himself even bothers to fight, which he will, since he likes fighting of course.)

- fodder level? oh really? lol. Well if you say so. And no reread, he specifically stated " I WILL LEAD THEM TO THE SEA, WITH JUKAI KOUTON"
1- Can you give me a proof that he can't use own jutsu? :heh:
2- Says who? Base Minato was more than enough to leave Hashi and the others in the dust. :p
3- Yes, that's what the manga stated


No, my dear. he said
"I ask you ALL work on erecting an earth-style wall"
So, I stated before, he needs ALL the SA to work with him to do so.
 
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