Gai is faster then Kamui

[paratise]

Lol a desperate taijutsu thread. We don't even know Gai's starting point off-panel to accurately judge his speed. Even Minato was moving during Madara's attack, so let alone some random guy coming off-panel lol

You must be registered for see images

Gai saved Kakashi like a damsel u_____u

Off topic: I want Bogard and FT to debate Kakashi vs Gai.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

What else is to expected from the man who can best Kisame?

But no, I am sooo excited for Gai to do stuff!

 

[paratise]

What else is to expected from the man who can best Kisame?

But no, I am sooo excited for Gai to do stuff!

So Lee can surpass him.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So Lee can surpass him.

You always have to push buttons....

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Rock Lee being >Kisame is imminent, TAC. Sorry to say. u_u

But no, I am sooo excited for Gai to do stuff!

Me too! Better be top 5 deaths all of time, if he is really going to go out with the 8th gate

 

[paratise]

You always have to push buttons....

...buttons of truth.

Lubricante, can you tell me why you don't want Lee to surpass Gai, asides from the fact that he would be able to solo Kisame?

 

[yellowxflash]

if he could out speed kamui, why couldn't he hit obito when they first faced him

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Rock Lee being >Kisame is imminent, TAC. Sorry to say. u_u



Me too! Better be top 5 deaths all of time, if he is really going to go out with the 8th gate

Rock Lee will not surpass Gai. :l. And I hope he dies from exhaustion and not by Madara. Madara hasn't given anyone a somewhat respectable death.

...buttons of truth.

Lubricante, can you tell me why you don't want Lee to surpass Gai, asides from the fact that he would be able to solo Kisame?

Can you tell me why you do want Lee to surpass Gai?

 

[Forbidden Technique]

if he could out speed kamui, why couldn't he hit obito when they first faced him

I'm solely talking about warping Kamui, not Obito's ability to go intangible. Plus, Gai was in base, if I'm not mistaken.

Rock Lee will not surpass Gai. :l. And I hope he dies from exhaustion and not by Madara. Madara hasn't given anyone a somewhat respectable death.

I'd bet all my oreos he will though. And Lol, smh, that is true. Gai already disrespected Madara by asking who he is, hahaha. I just hope he does work on Madara! It's only right.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I'm solely talking about warping Kamui, not Obito's ability to go intangible. Plus, Gai was in base, if I'm not mistaken.



I'd bet all my oreos he will though. And Lol, smh, that is true. Gai already disrespected Madara by asking who he is, hahaha. I just hope he does work on Madara! It's only right.

That's vintage Gai though, not remembering his opponents. And yeah. I hope he spams Hiruodira's or w/e at Madara and sends him flying back. I want at least two chapters of Gai before his time ends.

 

[paratise]

Rock Lee will not surpass Gai. :l. And I hope he dies from exhaustion and not by Madara. Madara hasn't given anyone a somewhat respectable death.


Can you tell me why you do want Lee to surpass Gai?

Because;

-he is a character emphasizing value of hardwork, he deserves it.

-Successors surpass their predeccessors. Manga phax.

-That's what Gai want, to raise Lee to be a great ninja. Both should achieve their goals.

-He is my fave.

-He is going to solo your fave.

Now answer my question plz.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Because Lee is just a Gai wannabe U__U

 

[Touken]

Lmao,even Madara can't touch that dude so Gai has no hope of touching him in a one on one battle.

No,Madara said that his attacks are faster in

You must be registered for see links

means that he was clearly referring to Obito but not Kakashi so U r wrong about that part.

OT: Even Konan's paper tags are faster than Obito warping speed(his own body) so todays feat won't help u to fill the gap b/w Gai and Kakashi as warping others and warping their own body are two different things but I must admit that Gai impressed me in this chapter.I always wanted him to be the spot light atleast for once and now is the time for him to shine.

Uh, no, read this page again [

You must be registered for see links

]. It clearly shows Madara knowing that his attacks are faster than Kakashi's Kamui.

Konan's paper tags aren't faster than Obito's Kamui. If that was the case then she wouldn't have made such an effort towards making billions of them. The difference between billions of Konan's paper tags and Gai's attacks are that those tags have a massive AoE which is why Obito didn't attempt to teleport to the Kamui dimension.

 

[Dantee]

So many people here who can't interpret the manga. Kakashi used kamui on Obito as well, so Guy being faster than Kamui is wrong. Guy couldn't land a hit on Obito so again wrong. Guy has no starting point and was in gates when he intercepted the black ball this is hardly a speed feat. Stop the wank.

 

[paratise]

Lee idolizes him because no one other than Gai acknowledged him or his goals as a ninja, or taken care of him.

Imitation is a common act when someone looks up to another.

 

[raziel777]

Gai is not faster than 2x Kamui. At least, he's faster than Obito's Kamui speed. Not even Kakashi's. Since Madara couldn't have possibly known the speed of Kakashi's. He was making a wild guess.

What today means is that Obito can't Kamui away from Guy, which is impressive by itself. Guy will wreck havoc next week

 

[Champ]

The whole panel made no sense. Obito used Kakashi so he could get away, while Kakashi would've been killed if it wasn't for Guy. I guess Guy is around Ei speed so he does own Kakashi

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You all forget Obito has the 9tails and part of 1tail and 8tails inside him.

Do remember Juubito could not use Kamui due to the bijuus in him.

Obito's Kamui is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH slower than usual.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Dont people get that kamui speed is dependent on user's condition, unlike FTG with fixed speed?
I know Obito stole some chakra but he isnt using it for himself, it's for naruto.
Obito said he could warp minato before FTG, im sure fresh Obito wouldnt have problem with orbs U_U

 

[Avinash012]

Uh, no, read this page again [

You must be registered for see links

]. It clearly shows Madara knowing that his attacks are faster than Kakashi's Kamui.

Madara learned that his attacks are faster than Obito's kamui

You must be registered for see links

which is a movement b4 that page of ur's.Read that clearly,Madara said that he know that his attacks are faster than Obito because of their previous clash which means that Madara don't have any previous knowledge on Kamui's speed and he only know about Obito warping speed thanks to their previous encounter so at best Madara assumed that Kakashi's teleportation speed is same as that of Obito.Hell even Obito the real owner of Kamui don't know how fast Kakashi's kamui is unless their battle in this arc and yet ur expecting Madara to have knowledge on kamui's speed? once again regardless of whether it is Kakashi or Obito the time required by Kamui to warp others is different from the time required to warp the kamui user so U can say that the time required for Kakashi to teleport himself to the other dimention is same as that of time required by Obito to teleport to the kamui dimention but their timings are different when it comes to warping/teleporting others.

Kamui has 3 different speeds:

• Fastest of all is the ability to go intangible.
• Second one is the ability to warp or teleport others.
• Slowest of all is the ability to teleport users own body.

Madara's attacks are faster than that last ability but inorder to beat Kakashi or Obito U need to beat first two abilities.

• What makes Obito so deadly is his intangibility which is faster than the hand movement of Juubi's jinchuriki Madara as well as Obito's teleportation so u need to counter Obito's intangibility to beat him which is not possible for Gai so Gai being a challenge for Obito is out of qustion unless u think Gai is faster than Juubi's jinchuriki.

• What makes Kakashi so deadly is his ability to warp other no the ability to teleport himself so Gai needs to counter his long ranger Kamui to beat Kakashi,it is not possible for any non S/T ninjutsu users so this is also out of qustion.

Btw Kakashi's speed for teleporting others and Obito's speed to teleport other are equal,the difference is Kakashi can use long range type where as Obito needs a physical contact.

Konan's paper tags aren't faster than Obito's Kamui. If that was the case then she wouldn't have made such an effort towards making billions of them. The difference between billions of Konan's paper tags and Gai's attacks are that those tags have a massive AoE which is why Obito didn't attempt to teleport to the Kamui dimension.

Konan prepared that many tags because dealing with a few tags is a piece of cake for Obito and the number of paper tags are irrelavent here as we are talking about the speed of the papers. Konan managed to attack a few of her papers to Obito's body even b4 he can teleport himself to the kamui dimention which means that her paper movent is faster than Obito's teleportation.