Minato vs Obito and Kakashi

[Takos]

No clue what you are even talking about. Why don't you post a scan?

Don't you think commenting on something like you did, when in fact you have no idea about the topic, is a little out of place?
Normally in this situation, one asks about it instead of denying it. I might provide a scan once I get on my PC, as I'm on a mobile right now.

 

[Bronze]

He meant this scan:

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[Bogard]

Lol, Kakashi was already standing and forward to Obito than Minato according to this scan [

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Minato was even on his knee, so let alone standing in an advantageous position like Kakashi was, yet his arm got closer to Obito than Kakashi's when they closed up [

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Not to mention that action had no relationship with reflexes. It's not because Usain Bolt is faster than me that if i decide to go to catch an object 2cm's away before him, that i'll be called the world champion

 

[KidGamer65]

Don't you think commenting on something like you did, when in fact you have no idea about the topic, is a little out of place?
Normally in this situation, one asks about it instead of denying it. I might provide a scan once I get on my PC, as I'm on a mobile right now.

I don't need to know the exact scan to know what you are saying is BS. Bogard said it all anyway so there is nothing more to add. This is just you grasping at straws and bringing whatever you can to the table despite it not even showing Kakashi can equal Minato when it comes to reactions. This is just as bad as that argument Tobirama fans use to say Tobirama is faster than KCM Minato. (When Tobirama grabbed the black ball before Minato did)

Its already been stated that no one alive reaches Minato's level of reactions bar Ay, and even then, Ay's aren't better than Minato's.

 

[Takos]

I don't need to know the exact scan to know what you are saying is BS. Bogard said it all anyway so there is nothing more to add. This is just you grasping at straws and bringing whatever you can to the table despite it not even showing Kakashi can equal Minato when it comes to reactions. This is just as bad as that argument Tobirama fans use to say Tobirama is faster than KCM Minato. (When Tobirama grabbed the black ball before Minato did)

Its already been stated that no one alive reaches Minato's level of reactions bar Ay, and even then, Ay's aren't better than Minato's.

1. Denying something while not even knowing what I'm talking about pretty much proves your bias.

2. I remember A speaking of speed, could you show me the scan in which reaction is spoken of? Plus, A's self-hype might be as accurate as Itachi claiming only an Uchiha could defeat him.

Not to mention that action had no relationship with reflexes. It's not because Usain Bolt is faster than me that if i decide to go to catch an object 2cm's away before him, that i'll be called the world champion

Indeed, that's why I'm obviously not claiming that Kakashi has Minato's speed. Reaction and reflexes are something different. They determine how fast you can start acting when you feel some stimulus, speed determines how fast you can move your body.


Anyway, that little debate off the way, in a one-on-one Kakashi VS Minato battle, I'd say they have about equal chances of winning. Sage Mode would probably not be a factor, unless there is prep time. That's also most likely why Minato didn't use it against Obito (in both fights), as he didn't have time to gather senjutsu chakra. When he was preparing to fight against Black Zetsu, he most likely gathered chakra in preparations to attack him, and later used it on Madara instead.
It's difficult to determine how a one-on-one of Obito VS Minato would now turn out, since we don't know how much he really improved his abilities since the Kyuubi attack.
One thing for sure, though, Kakashi and Obito together have much higher chances of winning than Minato.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato wins. He already showed that he's faster than both of their Kamuis which is their strongest jutsu.

 

[shelke]

Minato is not wining against two Kamui users, this is pure fanfiction at its worse. He had a hard time getting through to an inexperienced kid Obito, let's see how he responds to one who has experience with the technique. Add Kakashi to the mix, and Minato isn't doing much.

 

[Takos]

Minato is not wining against two Kamui users, this is pure fanfiction at its worse. He had a hard time getting through to an inexperienced kid Obito, let's see how he responds to one who has experience with the technique. Add Kakashi to the mix, and Minato isn't doing much.

Looks like we agree on something, for once.

 

[shelke]

Looks like we agree on something, for once.

I definitely agree. Minato sympathizers are definitely off their rockers.

 

[Bogard]

Minato is not wining against two Kamui users, this is pure fanfiction at its worse. He had a hard time getting through to an inexperienced kid Obito, let's see how he responds to one who has experience with the technique. Add Kakashi to the mix, and Minato isn't doing much.

He had so much of a hard time he owned the dude in seconds without even using SM -_-'

Looks like we agree on something, for once.

He only agree with you because Obito is on the team, especially since it's against one of the characters he hates the most Lol

 

[shelke]

^ Go and reread the fight, Minato was unaware whether his 'split second early' attack would even work. It was a gamble at its best, because he didn't know whether Obito would match his speed or would be faster, given his own - and Kakashi's statement - that his S/T Jutsu was better than his. Don't know how much more cut and dry the manga can be.

He didn't have a hard-time when he landed straight in his chains as well? The guy was relying on FTG through out the entirety of the fight, even to elude Chains. In fact, he landed straight within them. Anyhow, you and I will never agree on this, then why bother quoting me?

 

[Bogard]

^ Go and reread the fight, Minato was unaware whether his 'split second early' attack would even work. It was a gamble at its best, because he didn't know whether Obito would match his speed or would be faster, given his own - and Kakashi's statement - that his S/T Jutsu was better than his. Don't know how much more cut and dry the manga can be.

More like he was confident he was the superior one in terms of speed, reason why he never felt the need to use SM. Obito's S/T is better in the sense it's more versatile(no need for tags). FTG remains faster however

He didn't have a hard-time when he landed straight in his chains as well? The guy was relying on FTG through out the entirety of the fight, even to elude Chains. In fact, he landed straight within them.

You mean the part of the skirmich(cuz i can't even call that a fight lol) Minato was just analysing an opponent he didn't know when said opponent had full knowledge on him?

Anyhow, you and I will never agree on this, then why bother quoting me?

Like i told you last time, when i'm bored, i usually like to play troll games Lol

 

[shelke]

^ Oh boy ... I didn't even ask for SM logic or whatever. FTG is not faster than Intangibility. Read the chapters where Obito shows his Sharingan to Kakashi the first time.

Skirmish, you mean? It still doesn't mean it was a smooth sailing - more along the lines of a heaving boat. It's always wrong when you imply it though.

Have you become any better?

 

[Takos]

This is becoming awkward.
I think I'll leave this thread... slowly... no suspicion...

 

[Unorthodox]

minato murks them

 

[AlphaScythian]

He could just angle it towards the sky upon reentry.

I love this kind of speculation. That katon was size of juubi, juubi is size of konoha, he can angle konoha? He cant throw kunais this far.

 

[Takos]

I love this kind of speculation. That katon was size of juubi, juubi is size of konoha, he can angle konoha? He cant throw kunais this far.

Bakufuu Ranbu is overrated.
Obito needs to be really a huge distance from the target for the flame to get big enough to matter and while increasing distance is not a problem with Kamui, such a long way gives the enemy more than enough time to react.