who is strong Alive Minato or Alive EMS madara?

[Da Best Ever]

If Madara has kyuubi, Minato loses.

Otherwise, FroG Song GG

that takes time and prep which they dnt have against madara...

 

[shelke]

Madara has reacted to 'Speed of Light' teleportation of Tsunade and Ae. FTG cannot be faster.

 

[Penguin]

EMS Madara has no feats that suggest he can keep up with Minato's SM speed.

He gets blitzed.

Susano'o activation is instant, so he is not getting blitz'd. Not too mention his 3T tracking and sensory skills will help him keep up to the point of not getting blitz'd. You overrate Minato's speed or underrate Madara's reactions.

 

[Da Best Ever]

EMS Madara has no feats that suggest he can keep up with Minato's SM speed.

He gets blitzed.

i remembered u made a thread about 2 days ago about minato vs madara and nobody was hearing that shit then, dnt worry nothing has changed in the minds of the wise...minato has to throw the ftg kunai at madara u think madara cant just knock that back with his extended gumbai...u think madara cant just manifest susano to block the coming rasengan...

 

[omarsen]

How does Hiruzen deal with Shinsuusenju? How does he deal with Flower pollen? How does he deal with a fully powered Jukai Koutan? How does he deal with Wood Bunshin?

Look, i know Hiruzen is underrated, but saying that he is above BOTH Minato, and EMS Madara combined? Whats that about?

I'm not comming with stuff on my own, its all manga facts.
Power scale is nothing compared to true skills.

Example:
Despite this being one of the biggest scale jutsu's we have seen, it didn't really kill any real character only fodders.

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Flower pollen you say? Sure Hiruzen can't fly, but he sure can counter it. Look again nobody died.

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Jukai Koutan you say?

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I can continue this forever. get the idea?

 

[Da Best Ever]

Madara has reacted to 'Speed of Light' teleportation of Tsunade and Ae. FTG cannot be faster.

this is absolutely true and he did block A's punch when he and tsunade was transported to the battlefield...

 

[ajpn920]

Minato takes this. Minato's ST barrier is OP. He can redirect attacks meaning whatever attack Madara has to offer, it will become Minato's attack. I can't see Madara penetrating ST barrier. Add SM into the mix and it's pretty obvious. Not to mention Gamarinsho gg. EMS Madara does not have the same speed/reaction compared to Juubi Jin Madara. speed blitz gg most likely to happen=D

 

[Fair Warning]

this is absolutely true and he did block A's punch when he and tsunade was transported to the battlefield...

*Edo Madara with Rinnegan, Senju DNA, and Hashis jutsu

 

[Lostdreams]

Well alive madara was seen as The first hokages equal.
That fact that he would fight harashima solo cements that ideology for me.

I give madara the win high difficulty. its high diff only because a skilled taijutsu fighter is an uchiha biggest counter to their op skills.

 

[Penguin]

Minato takes this. Minato's ST barrier is OP. He can redirect attacks meaning whatever attack Madara has to offer, it will become Minato's attack. I can't see Madara penetrating ST barrier. Add SM into the mix and it's pretty obvious. Not to mention Gamarinsho gg. EMS Madara does not have the same speed/reaction compared to Juubi Jin Madara. speed blitz gg most likely to happen=D

S/T Barrier isn't doing shit. Lmao. Minato has a chance, but you are going about it a really bad way.

*Edo Madara with Rinnegan, Senju DNA, and Hashis jutsu

The one that was not as strong as alive Madara, noted by Hashirama.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I'm not comming with stuff on my own, its all manga facts.
Power scale is nothing compared to true skills.

Example:
Despite this being one of the biggest scale jutsu's we have seen, it didn't really kill any real character only fodders.

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Flower pollen you say? Sure Hiruzen can't fly, but he sure can counter it. Look again nobody died.

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Jukai Koutan you say?

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I can continue this forever. get the idea?

lol the fire jutsu will get through the big wide holes in emma's staff prison...


it was sheer will onoki got back up from flower world and used dust release to let some fresh air get in...


also, everyone ran from the meteor and a shinobi that was great in doton just so happened to be there and made it lighter and and th first one stop the speed of the second one....


also i with u on hiruzen i just think u pick some rare cases where there was many shinobi and not just one in hiruzen's case

 

[KingHashirama]

Flashy guy... or the guy with Raw skills? I'm going to go with Raw skills on this one.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Well alive madara was seen as The first hokages equal.
That fact that he would fight harashima solo cements that ideology for me.

I give madara the win high difficulty. its high diff only because a skilled taijutsu fighter is an uchiha biggest counter to their op skills.

edo madara disarm and solo probably 100 SA shinobi in taijutsu, i highly doubt he is weak in that category since taijutsu is the only thing that edo tensei doesnt affect/change when brought back

 

[Fair Warning]

S/T Barrier isn't doing shit. Lmao. Minato has a chance, but you are going about it a really bad way.



The one that was not as strong as alive Madara, noted by Hashirama.

Tf? Madara was revived beyond his prime against Gokage.

Minato summons Gamabunta, spreads Kunai throughout battlefield, anywhere Madara steps, its GG.

 

[KingHashirama]

Well alive madara was seen as The first hokages equal.
That fact that he would fight harashima solo cements that ideology for me.

I give madara the win high difficulty. its high diff only because a skilled taijutsu fighter is an uchiha biggest counter to their op skills.

So if i fought you solo, and got my ass kicked everytime.. that would mean we are equals right?

 

[Denzel Washington]

Madara has reacted to 'Speed of Light' teleportation of Tsunade and Ae. FTG cannot be faster.

So you've resorted to trolling?

Susano'o activation is instant, so he is not getting blitz'd. Not too mention his 3T tracking and sensory skills will help him keep up to the point of not getting blitz'd. You overrate Minato's speed or underrate Madara's reactions.

Susano'o activation may be, but Madara's reaction time isn't.

 

[Da Best Ever]

*Edo Madara with Rinnegan, Senju DNA, and Hashis jutsu

he didnt even have rinnegan activated then and didnt use any of hashira's jutsu to block that attack that he didnt see coming, that was a pure testament to his reaction skills...u are just a boylover with minimum knowledge on the manga who barely can interpret what it says...

 

[Mattek2008]

I'm not comming with stuff on my own, its all manga facts.
Power scale is nothing compared to true skills.

Example:
Despite this being one of the biggest scale jutsu's we have seen, it didn't really kill any real character only fodders.

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Flower pollen you say? Sure Hiruzen can't fly, but he sure can counter it. Look again nobody died.

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Jukai Koutan you say?

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I can continue this forever. get the idea?

Pollen would have been an end for all the Kages if it wasnt for Ohnoki. Now, as to how he didn't pass out, i have no clue...Will power maybe?

While the ENMA kage is a counter for Jukai Koutan, it also leaves Hiruzen vournable to an attack from beneath. What stops him from ending up this way?

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Granted, it will not be done by a Susano'o sword, But with a Mokuton Tree branch.

Also, Hashirama has WAY more chakra than Hiruzen, and he also has constant Healing due to SM, now tell me...How does Hiruzen beat this ?

 

[shelke]

^ Wouldn't expect much from a Minato fan who thinks Minato even stands a chance against EMS Madara.

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- The purifying pot was travelling at the speed of light.

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- Tsunade being teleported to the battle-field with the same technique.

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-http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/562/14 - Madara reacted and guarded perfectly. Muu on the other hand, got smashed into the hill.

 

[Da Best Ever]

So you've resorted to trolling?



Susano'o activation may be, but Madara's reaction time isn't.

regardless susano protects him, minato cant touch him...and how is that trolling that is absolutely true, madara did block A's punch which was instant...minato moves instant while using ftg...samething...that was a pure testament to madara's reaction time, but u say that truth is trolling...thats no different then haters saying someone he gets rich has to be in illuminati...