To anyone believing Obito awakened Kakashi's MS

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Well, that's simply false.
People have two reasons to believe so.
1) They don't want to accept that a non-Uchiha could be capable of this feat
2) They claim Tobirama said that it's impossible for a non-Uchiha.

So, what did Tobirama say exactly?
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That's what he said. He spoke of activating Sharingan in the eyes, not anything about awakening Mangekyo.
This means that if Obito had given Kakashi his eye before activating Sharingan, Kakashi wouldn't be able to ever awaken it himself. HOWEVER, nothing at all indicates even remotely that you need an Uchiha brain to level-up Sharingan to Mangekyo Sharingan.
Obviously, however, this is a difficult thing to do. Only some Uchiha even awakened Sharingan, yet alone Mangekyo.


So, we have nothing to indicate it WASN'T Kakashi who awakened MS.
On the other hand, we DO have reasons to believe Kakashi did it himself, the reason being the words of Obito Uchiha himself.
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May this stop that nonsense myth from spreading any further.
 

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Regardless if he did or didn't, not the best example to try and put an end to the argument. For one, why would Obito know that he awakened Kakashi's MS for him? Kakashi passed out the moment he got it and Obito was a distance away from Kakashi and wasn't looking him in his eyes when he awakened his own MS. And two, obviously that page has bad translations. You can clearly see the quote "using the Sharingan for your Raikiri" twice so it's not a credible source to use in this case.
 

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Tbh I was gona make a thread on how obito unlocked Kakashi MS given power
 

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Regardless if he did or didn't, not the best example to try and put an end to the argument. For one, why would Obito know that he awakened Kakashi's MS for him? Kakashi passed out the moment he got it and Obito was a distance away from Kakashi and wasn't looking him in his eyes when he awakened his own MS. And two, obviously that page has bad translations. You can clearly see the quote "using the Sharingan for your Raikiri" twice so it's not a credible source to use in this case.

Obito clearly has huge knowledge on the Sharingan, given that he was tutored by Madara. You may want to deny his words, but you'll end up using baseless speculation to do so, because nothing at all indicates Obito was wrong.
Also, if you want another translation, Obito says almost the same thing in ***********, only using the word "awakened" instead of "got" which actually proves my point even further.
 

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Actually, Kakashi received the MS after Obito saw Rin die. That is why Kakashi became unconscious. Kakashi didn't even know that he had the MS until he was in his late 20's when he was fighting Deidara. So yeah, if it weren't for Obito, Kakashi wouldn't have unlocked the MS. It was Obito's reaction to MS that opened the visual power.
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Only Uchiha could advance to the levels of MS as shown in Tobirama's explanation.Their brains have a special chakra that responds to high levels of emotion.
 

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I'll never agree. Awakening the Sharingan requires Uchiha Blood, which he lacks. His pattern turned out to be exactly the same, he uses the exact same ability ... I mean, come on!
 

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I'll never agree. Awakening the Sharingan requires Uchiha Blood, which he lacks. His pattern turned out to be exactly the same, he uses the exact same ability ... I mean, come on!

Its apart of the same pair of eyes that belonged to the same guy. If Itachi took Shisui's 3 tomoe eyes , inserted them, and then awakened MS do you think the MS design would be the one Itachi has now, or do you think they will be what Shisui's MS would've looked like if he awakened MS himself?
 

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^ Not necessarily. Sharingan evolves according to the user, as shown by the differing patterns. Kakashi is his own person and had he evolved Sharingan, he would have had a unique pattern and an ability as well. Mind you, 3T has nothing to do with MS and it shouldn't be a deciding factor in patterns. Then we have the same ability, the lack of Uchiha Blood, and Tobirama's explanations. All these point towards the fact that Kakashi didn't awake his MS.
 

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Then why did Madara say that you need both eyes to awaken the sharing and full power?

Why did Obito see through kakashi's eyes the closer he got to Kakashi and Rin?

How come Kakashi had to wait until part 2 to get the chakra needed for MS?

It seems impossible to awaken ms in one eye and not the other
 

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Obito unlocked kakashi's sharingan.

Obito and kakashi's eyes are linked, thus the awakening of both eyes at the exact same time, same symbol and the same abilities.
Kakashi doesn't have uchiha blood and doesn't have the necessary chakra in his brain to unlock the Sharingan.
 

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kakashi awakened ms himself. they r fools to think otherwise
 

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kakashi cannot unlock Mangekyou Sharingan by himself.
 

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^ Don't bother. This point has been repeated far too many times and shrugged off despite the concrete manga evidence. It's like playing a flute before a plump buffalo.
 

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^ Don't bother. This point has been repeated far too many times and shrugged off despite the concrete manga evidence. It's like playing a flute before a plump buffalo.

The denial is real with these guys. Lol
 

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Kakashi got his MS by the shock and trauma he endured at killing Rin, that's what awakened it, Obito awakened his because he witnessed it too, so if anything it was actually Kakashi who awakened or was the reason for the awakening of Obito's MS.
 

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Kakashi got his MS by the shock and trauma he endured at killing Rin, that's what awakened it, Obito awakened his because he witnessed it too, so if anything it was actually Kakashi who awakened or was the reason for the awakening of Obito's MS.

Are you kidding me? This is the level of narutobase now?
 

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^ Apparently. The plot thickens, Now Kakashi awoke Obito's MS for him. **** the scans, who cares?
 

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^ Apparently. The plot thickens, Now Kakashi awoke Obito's MS for him. **** the scans, who cares?

**** logic. Kakashi unlocked itachi's Ms as well.
 
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