Smh Minato.

WHAT?

  • YES.He's the new Ass-pull king

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

No scans, and no proof.

In the end of the day even if you're right, you're speculating, and it's terrible writing for an author to force his readers to speculate just to answer a simple question. And that is the definition of Ass-pull.
You always hit the nail RIGHT on the head, someone get this man an award!
OT: I agree with Necromancer.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

There are so many possible explanations in the manga why Minato was not shown with SM before, yet could still have had it. Some people just do not try to have an open mind to the possiblity that Minato having had SM, is not a plothole.
 
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Nothing from what u said suggests that he didn't know about it from the beginning and don't u think Sasuke pulling it out of nowhere without having a hint of what he is doing makes it an ass pull? He was not even look like he don't know about it.

That was a qustion from Sasuke to Hashirama,Sasuke heared everything about the battle b/w Hashirama and Madara from Hashirama and he is fully aware of the fact that he can use perfect Susanoo.

What normal Susano'o form, when his Legged V3 + Senjutsu was matching BSM?
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No, I don't think so, considering that PS has legs, and he couldn't form Susano'o with one.

Why? How would this form aid him in jumping etc, which he performed whilst aiding BM Naruto and Minato and trying to strike Obito? As I said, wrong analogy.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

half of your paragraph didn't make any sense. Of course there has been threads on this topic all the time. Just because you are not present or too blind to see it does not mean it wasn't made and it definitely does not mean you are the first to post it rofl. i think you should look at the way you think, because i could hardly call that thinking at all. 6 year old child? it is pretty sad that you have a kid and you are on a forum site b1tching about characters and calling "first" like an ignorant b1tch. Very sad.
Ignorant being. Just STFU and GTFO. You know who you are boy. Don't be a hypocrite. Yeah I have a kid because I lost my virginity at a very young age and fukkked *****es anytime I want. An achievement that perhaps you can't do..lol
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

That right there is bullshit.

Obito took control of the Kyubi, something only one other shinobi could do, and this ability is an indicator of immense power and skill.
He killed his wife by extracting Kurama.
He directly attacked his newborn son.
He was causing a village-wide catastrophe that had many casualties.
He thought the man was Madara.
Minato acknowledged this man could cause significant problems for the entire world.
Minato attacked random Iwa fodder with intent to kill.
Minato is an intelligent man.
Minato knew Juubito's one and only weakness was Senjutsu
Juubito was the biggest threat to the entire world
Two Senjutsu users and a BM user is better against Juubito than two BM users and a SM user.
Minato can enter SM effortless, and in what appears to be a second while moving.

All of these culminate into one point: Minato waiting until now to use SM is bad writing. We aren't being "Minato haters", we're critiquing and pointing out this bad writing. Following your mentality, that "It's happened, what can we do about it? Why talk about it?" defeats the purpose of being on this forum.
If I could, I would literally take my whole reputation bar, and give it to you. Bra-effing-vo.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

lol at necro and op

having a tiff.

ot- more speculation then proof, still he gained it off panel just like KCM+BM

which means it was an ass pull
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

That right there is bullshit.

Obito took control of the Kyubi, something only one other shinobi could do, and this ability is an indicator of immense power and skill.
He killed his wife by extracting Kurama.
He directly attacked his newborn son.
He was causing a village-wide catastrophe that had many casualties.
He thought the man was Madara.
Minato acknowledged this man could cause significant problems for the entire world.
Minato attacked random Iwa fodder with intent to kill.
Minato is an intelligent man.
Minato knew Juubito's one and only weakness was Senjutsu
Juubito was the biggest threat to the entire world
Two Senjutsu users and a BM user is better against Juubito than two BM users and a SM user.
Minato can enter SM effortless, and in what appears to be a second while moving.

All of these culminate into one point: Minato waiting until now to use SM is bad writing. We aren't being "Minato haters", we're critiquing and pointing out this bad writing. Following your mentality, that "It's happened, what can we do about it? Why talk about it?" defeats the purpose of being on this forum.
The bolded part says it all. It was a prediction concerning the future of the world, not a present threat, and that prediction came from a toad sage. And he was talking about what he would cause to the world, not necessarly his own power level. For example, Light in death note was a danger for the world eventhough a normal human could easily kill him with a pistol. It's what Obito would cause to the future that Minato was actually fearing
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

oh god ......................... i said this a million times, it's the writer's fault sigh .................... really lousy writing.

obviously rushing to wrap the whole thing up, not paying attention to the impressions/technicalities/established facts/rules he set before this arc, throwing random powers at characters thinking this would be epic without making sense and look at the results, this is a mess.
 
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Nature Energy is not a chakra source, it's an entirely different thing than chakra that just makes the user's chakra stronger. It does not increase chakra reserves or quantity. Simply put, gathering Nature Energy won't allow you to perform a technique you don't have enough chakra for.s
Nature's chakra is need for senjutsu. As said in the scan..

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

The bolded part says it all. It was a prediction concerning the future of the world, not a present threat, and that prediction came from a toad sage. And he was talking about what he would cause to the world, not necessarly his own power level. For example, Light in death note was a danger for the world eventhough a normal human could easily kill him with a pistol. It's what Obito would cause to the future that Minato was actually fearing
Exactly. If Minato knew this man would cause problems for the entire world later, and as you put it, "fear" that, why wouldn't he kill this man? He killed fodder in the war that was just a threat to the village, so why would he not go at a threat to the entire world with intent to kill? Minato thought he was Madara, and showed he had some knowledge on Madara's power and reputation, meaning he should know that Madara has immense, if not higher than his own, power. Why would Minato not go all out and use Sage Mode? The sensible reason is because Kishi did not intend at that point for him to have Sage Mode. Him only recently going against that decision and giving it to him anyway is an asspull. We know it was a recent decision because he didn't use or hint to having it against Juubito, who's only weakness was Senjutsu. These two points make it an asspull. Kishi wrote Minato's moments and events as a character without Sage Mode. By revealing he had it all along is bad writing.

You're letting the fact that you're a Minato fan cloud your reasoning.
 
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Ignorant being. Just STFU and GTFO. You know who you are boy. Don't be a hypocrite. Yeah I have a kid because I lost my virginity at a very young age and fukkked *****es anytime I want. An achievement that perhaps you can't do..lol
So having unprotected *** at a young age is an "achievement"? Lmao,your mindset is something I hope you didn't pass on to your child sir.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Well of course. But as of now it is not explained (and the way the manga has been going I doubt it ever will be.) Believe me, I truly hope it is explained in the future, but until then I call Asspull.



Just did by explaining to you that the definition you are basing your argument around is false.
What? So what's your answer then? If you say I'm wrong then it means you know what's right. How can you say someone is wrong when you don't know what is right? Care to tell me what's right then professor?
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Exactly. If Minato knew this man would cause problems for the entire world later, and as you put it, "fear" that, why wouldn't he kill this man? He killed fodder in the war that was just a threat to the village, so why would he not go at a threat to the entire world with intent to kill? Minato thought he was Madara, and showed he had some knowledge on Madara's power and reputation, meaning he should know that Madara has immense, if not higher than his own, power. Why would Minato not go all out and use Sage Mode? The sensible reason is because Kishi did not intend at that point for him to have Sage Mode. Him only recently going against that decision and giving it to him anyway is an asspull. We know it was a recent decision because he didn't use or hint to having it against Juubito, who's only weakness was Senjutsu. These two points make it an asspull. Kishi wrote Minato's moments and events as a character without Sage Mode. By revealing he had it all along is bad writing.
I agree with you,but some people will deny,deny,and deny while trying to argue there were hints Minato had SM even though it's extremely vague.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Nature's chakra is need for senjutsu. As said in the scan..

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The link doesn't work. Seems like it's chapter 415. Since in that chapter, Naruto is doing Sage training, I assume it's the right chapter. I read the entire chapter and nothing about "nature chakra" is said, just the real thing: Nature Energy.
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

No scans, and no proof.

In the end of the day even if you're right, you're speculating, and it's terrible writing for an author to force his readers to speculate just to answer a simple question. And that is the definition of Ass-pull.
What about Tite Kubo and Bleach powerups?
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Exactly. If Minato knew this man would cause problems for the entire world later, and as you put it, "fear" that, why wouldn't he kill this man? He killed fodder in the war that was just a threat to the village, so why would he not go at a threat to the entire world with intent to kill? Minato thought he was Madara, and showed he had some knowledge on Madara's power and reputation, meaning he should know that Madara has immense, if not higher than his own, power. Why would Minato not go all out and use Sage Mode? The sensible reason is because Kishi did not intend at that point for him to have Sage Mode. Him only recently going against that decision and giving it to him anyway is an asspull. We know it was a recent decision because he didn't use or hint to having it against Juubito, who's only weakness was Senjutsu. These two points make it an asspull. Kishi wrote Minato's moments and events as a character without Sage Mode. By revealing he had it all along is bad writing.
The fight between Obito and Minato lasted the time it would take him to enter Sage Mode. Why would he enter SM to defeat an opponent he can easily defeat in base? He said it himself that his opponent was rushing, so it was going to be a quick fight. The real question you must ask yourself is why he didn't kill Obito when he already marked the guy? Problem however is that the village was in danger. The priority at that moment was saving the village, and we've seen that if he decided to follow Obito instead, the village would have been destroyed since a second reappearing in the outskirts of Konoha after his fight, Kyubi was about to nuke everyone with Bijuudamas

Against Jubito it can be understandable. After all, he has more fire power in Bijuu-mode than in SM, so obviously he would prefer using Bijuu-mode to combine attacks with his son's sage mode to not lose in power
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

So having unprotected *** at a young age is an "achievement"? Lmao,your mindset is something I hope you didn't pass on to your child sir.
Unprotected? Who said that I don't want that? That was my choice and did not regret it. I consider it a blessing from above. Having a child is awesome dude..An achievement for a guy that perhaps you haven't done yet..well, just tell me if you're a ***** and i'll pull my SM out of nowhere for you..=D
 

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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago

Ignorant being. Just STFU and GTFO. You know who you are boy. Don't be a hypocrite. Yeah I have a kid because I lost my virginity at a very young age and fukkked *****es anytime I want. An achievement that perhaps you can't do..lol
brags about fkn b1tches, cries like a b1tch on naruto forums. someone is very low self-esteemed to have to go on forum sites and not only b1tch about a character he has a hard on for that doesn't exist, but also pose as a self-proclaimed bad ass in order to feel better about his pathetic self irl. just figured you out kid. sorry if you are a little butthurt.
 
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