The Series is better off without Obito

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What are you talking about How is my post double posting?? By the way, I don't hate the series, and yes the last couples months or so I've been all hyped up for since madara revival cause I thought shit finally got real, capturing the sense of danger, and more mysterious person shows up, so much stuff to be answered.
I'm more or less annoyed with the complete lack of Hashi's power after he was hyped so long.
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Double posting is when you post two different comments back to back.

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Obito got friendzone, Rin never loved him, so in other word he's only thinking about 13 years old kid as in adult, and I hate to say this but he's a pedo.

He only lost one thing, it doesn't make you enough to descend into a darkness where Kakashi in other hand lost everyone he truly adores.
You did it again............ Don't post another comment until someone has posted after you, that is called double posting. If you wish to address someone new, you can click- reply with quote - copy the entire box - go to your last post - edit - paste below everything else- and go from there.
 
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obito, the student of Minato, and teammate to kakashi, eventually betrays his village, and is responsible for the death of Minato who believed in him and wanted him to be hokage, and Kushina. And pretty much cause Naruto alot of pain in his life. While at the same time, they were both opposites of the same coin.

Like all Uchiha, Obito's feelings of love go deeper than normally, and as Tobirama explained, when a loved one is taken from them, they fall into despair, normally, they have friends who help them come from it, like Sasuke did, but in Obito's case, his only "friend" was Madara, of course he would fall deep into darkness with Madara putting ideas into his head.

Obito is an interesting character, who was also very powerful. Obito is not a pedophile since it was never shown that he is sexually interested in Rin anymore. If anything, if she were revived, he would be more like her gaurdian. Obito's love for Rin was apparently beyond the physical aspect if her death drove him to commit the crimes he did. She was his driving force, and it was taken from him.

Even now, Obito once again has shown the strength to push on against all odds. Obito is definately one of the best written characters. If you noticed, yea, Obito did give lots of speeches, but he was trying his best not to have to kill them all because he was trying to "save" them, yea, he began to get repetitive but he was hoping he could tnj the alliance. If he wished, he cold of outright Obliterated everyone. But he wanted them to be happy in infinite tsukoyomi.

And now, currently, Obito's character has had further development, and is taking the fight to Madara...
 
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What are you talking about How is my post double posting?? By the way, I don't hate the series, and yes the last couples months or so I've been all hyped up for since madara revival cause I thought shit finally got real, capturing the sense of danger, and more mysterious person shows up, so much stuff to be answered.

Naruto is still my favorite series, I'm just being analytical giving brief thought, cause last year was boring and downfall for naruto.



He's only enjoyable because we all assumed he was dead, giving suspense, again I don;t have problem with revelation, the problem is afterward.



Madara is alot much more reasonable to become a villain than Obito . It's not only he lost his only brother but Madara suffer cause of losing the trust of becoming an Uchiha leader, wasn't qualify to becoming Hokages, he find no hope for the world the way he wants to.

Obito just wants wants to get Rin thats what he wants
I don't have problem Madara gets tnj so long he completes the moon eye plan
I think the thing is that you just want the expected to happen. Obito is a block of some sort to the series' flow of what should of happened or what shouldn't have happened.
 
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obito, the student of Minato, and teammate to kakashi, eventually betrays his village, and is responsible for the death of Minato who believed in him and wanted him to be hokage, and Kushina. And pretty much cause Naruto alot of pain in his life. While at the same time, they were both opposites of the same coin.

Like all Uchiha, Obito's feelings of love go deeper than normally, and as Tobirama explained, when a loved one is taken from them, they fall into despair, normally, they have friends who help them come from it, like Sasuke did, but in Obito's case, his only "friend" was Madara, of course he would fall deep into darkness with Madara putting ideas into his head.

Obito is an interesting character, who was also very powerful. Obito is not a pedophile since it was never shown that he is sexually interested in Rin anymore. If anything, if she were revived, he would be more like her gaurdian. Obito's love for Rin was apparently beyond the physical aspect if her death drove him to commit the crimes he did. She was his driving force, and it was taken from him.

Even now, Obito once again has shown the strength to push on against all odds. Obito is definately one of the best written characters. If you noticed, yea, Obito did give lots of speeches, but he was trying his best not to have to kill them all because he was trying to "save" them, yea, he began to get repetitive but he was hoping he could tnj the alliance. If he wished, he cold of outright Obliterated everyone. But he wanted them to be happy in infinite tsukoyomi.

And now, currently, Obito's character has had further development, and is taking the fight to Madara...
When an Uchiha lose someone they love, they would go into darkness, but Obito cases, not to this extent, Rin never loves him. Rin is what triggers him into losing hope for the world cause he's a pedo keeps thinking about rin every chapters nothing more.
 
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Yes I said that right !! Without Obito, the Naruto Series as a whole wouldn't be "truly" bad. There wasn't even a good moments or speeches dialogue for this character, we had to deal all this Obito crap that was dragged out almost the whole 2013.

Which this brings me the point, if Kishi wants to milk the series, why didn't he use the time for the Edo Tensi and everyone else gets their time to shine, giving epic fights, like the 7 swordsmen. Kishi just literally skipped the majority of the fight.

As long as Obito is sticking around, the series will get even worse at this state, so as soon as Obito Dies the better, cause there's no effing way Madara would just simply allow Obito to wander off when he's stood right next to him after stabbing him which pretty does nothing effect on Madara especially when Obito only took small portion of chakra to form a complete staff.

I don't understand why people think Obito will ends Madara life here with just simply stabbing and heal Naruto after the whole fight they went through because of that is the case than this series will truly beyond the most trollicious and reaches stupidity on the whole new level.
Obito is without a doubt the series best antagonist. To say the series would be better off without him is crazy to me because he has really made this entire war amazing. You mentioned that the long drawn out talking between Naruto and Obito in a negative light, to that I would say you didn't get it. There was an incredible amount of light and shade, symbolism and undertones that underpinned that whole section. It was drawn out on purpose because it dealt with complex issues that even now haven't been fully resolved. I get the impression that your looking at it on a superficial level, which is sad because you miss out on so much depth.

Also I get the impression that your a much greater fan of Madara and thats why you don't particularly like Obito. Madara is a simplistic, stereotypical villian that doesn't offer much besides eye-candy jutsu's. He is a typical arrogant Uchiha which is almost laughable because he spent most of his life in a cave living like a parasite. The logic behind his plan isn't even sound and is just a foil for how bitter and butthurt he is. But to each his own I guess....
 
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Withought Obito, F**k all would have happened in this series.
Nope cause Tobi would've been someone else, and it would never happen if we constantly gets flashbacks and dialogue that dragged out the juubi arc coming from Obito who gathers the whole Akastaki, extracting the Bijuu that took an entire series just for Rin.
 

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Madara is alot much more reasonable to become a villain than Obito . It's not only he lost his only brother but Madara suffer cause of losing the trust of becoming an Uchiha leader, wasn't qualify to becoming Hokages, he find no hope for the world the way he wants to.

Obito just wants wants to get Rin thats what he wants
They have the same goal. To put the world in a place where nobody is suffering from loss and hatred and all the negativity in life. A utopia controlled by genjutsu.

Obito lost Rin. The moment he saw Kakashi stab her, the friendship he had with him was lost too. Then you could always remember that Obito also asked "Where's Minato-sensei at a time like this?" or something along those lines - isn't there lost of trust to your comrade and your sensei too?

Subliminally, I think you just hate Obito's reasons. Apart that he's another villain other than Madara. The main reason he went ham was because 1) it was about romance-related and not family-related as in the case of Madara, something other people can't grasp that loss is still a loss and 2) it was because of a girl (underlying misogynism) which again, is probably deemed preposterous as reason 1.
 
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Obito is without a doubt the series best antagonist. To say the series would be better off without him is crazy to me because he has really made this entire war amazing. You mentioned that the long drawn out talking between Naruto and Obito in a negative light, to that I would say you didn't get it. There was an incredible amount of light and shade, symbolism and undertones that underpinned that whole section. It was drawn out on purpose because it dealt with complex issues that even now haven't been fully resolved. I get the impression that your looking at it on a superficial level, which is sad because you miss out on so much depth.

Also I get the impression that your a much greater fan of Madara and thats why you don't particularly like Obito. Madara is a simplistic, stereotypical villian that doesn't offer much besides eye-candy jutsu's. He is a typical arrogant Uchiha which is almost laughable because he spent most of his life in a cave living like a parasite. The logic behind his plan isn't even sound and is just a foil for how bitter and butthurt he is. But to each his own I guess....
1. I don't have this impression with obito because almost everyone is parallel to Naruto and its annoying.

2. The war arc is bad, edos got trolled/ skipped and right now they made the one sided battle too boring, as everytime Obito counters someone, he gets toss to the side, again and again, the fight is going nowhere till this asspull friendship powerup. The Shinobi Alliance ant doing shit.

3. Madara is doing his thing, it's always on point, he's the type of guy to get this sort of sense of danger plus he's a better written character.



They have the same goal. To put the world in a place where nobody is suffering from loss and hatred and all the negativity in life. A utopia controlled by genjutsu.

Obito lost Rin. The moment he saw Kakashi stab her, the friendship he had with him was lost too. Then you could always remember that Obito also asked "Where's Minato-sensei at a time like this?" or something along those lines - isn't there lost of trust to your comrade and your sensei too?

Subliminally, I think you just hate Obito's reasons. Apart that he's another villain other than Madara. The main reason he went ham was because 1) it was about romance-related, something other people can't grasp on and 2) it was because of a girl, again, probably deemed preposterous as reason 1.
There was never a romance, its only his 13 year old girl crushed. Yes obito has the same goal as Madara only simply for his own purpose to cast genjutsu so he could see Rin
 
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Nope cause Tobi would've been someone else, and it would never happen if we constantly gets flashbacks and dialogue that dragged out the juubi arc coming from Obito who gathers the whole Akastaki, extracting the Bijuu that took an entire series just for Rin.
So you're just talking about changing Tobi? yeah I would have preferred that.
 
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