Minato's Sage mode was obvious.

[Flawž]

Again, people are assuming too much about the limits of Minato's Sage Mode.

His Nature Energy imbued Rasengan barely hurt Kakashi, yet it would've made a difference against Obito?

Not too mention his chakra reserves are nothing compared to naruto, An Uzumaki meaning his Sage mode intact would be lower than naruto's.

 

[WolfHaley]

That sure does answer my question, thank you sir.

That was my intention. I actually have a feeling the mysterious man is just Kisame mid-sage mode.

 

[KingHashirama]

Again, people are assuming too much about the limits of Minato's Sage Mode.

His Nature Energy imbued Rasengan barely hurt Kakashi, yet it would've made a difference against Obito? (Back in Obito's assault on the Leaf)

Having 2 Senjutsu users on a nearly equal power level makes a whole lot of difference mate.

 

[D R E X]

1. Let's first address Sage Mode not being necessary against Obito. First off, Minato did not know it was Obito. He thought it was Madara. Based on his deductions that gave him the conclusion of Madara, and his dialogue concerning Madara, such as that he'd bring trouble for the whole world, it means Minato knows that Madara is extremely powerful and dangerous. It means Minato was taking Obito with the utmost seriousness. This is an individual that was capable of sneaking into Konoha, and taming the Kyubi without being a Jinchuriki, the later is something even Minato could not accomplish. He was able to sneak past Minato to get into Kushina's birthing area. There is no good reason as to why Minato would not deal with him permanently. He killed that random fodder back when Kakashi first used Chidori, why would he attack who he thinks is Madara with intent to kill? There is no good reason as to why Minato did not use it against Obito, other than the fact that Kishi only recently decided that Minato would have Sage Mode. That in itself makes it an asspull.

2. KM/BM being stronger does not matter. What matters is the power that is more useful. When locating and removing the chakra rods from the Bijuu, Naruto used Sage Mode because he knew it was more useful in that situation, even though KM was stronger. If a complete shitbrain like Naruto was able to figure that out, and make such a good judgement, why wouldn't Minato? Minato is very intelligent, so do you really think it makes sense that he would stay in KM and not use SM at any point? Think about it, Naruto is already using BM and SM. If SM is Juubito's weakness, wouldn't it make more sense and be more efficient to have two SM users and one BM user, rather than one SM user and two BM users? Wouldn't it make sense for Minato to figure that out?

Perhaps the death of his son somehow triggered his SM .

Moreover , Minato is always the cool type , he wouldn't get pissed of and rampage through an opponent

knowing the difference in their power .
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[~Sky~]

Not too mention his chakra reserves are nothing compared to naruto, An Uzumaki meaning his Sage mode intact would be lower than naruto's.

Said that last page, but yes. Lol

 

[Fair Warning]

Again, people are assuming too much about the limits of Minato's Sage Mode.

His Nature Energy imbued Rasengan barely hurt Kakashi, yet it would've made a difference against Obito? (Back in Obito's assault on the Leaf)

His rasengan wasnt attached to arm and lost some of its chakra, and Kakashi has a hole in his chest IIRC, but its hard to tell in black and white

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

Obviously you fail to comprehend what an "asspull" is meant when we are using it for Minato.


1. Hashirama's powers were never revealed.

2. Hashirama isn't a TOAD sage.. Minato is.. Big difference

3. Hashirama is the God of Shinobi.. don't even try to compare Minato and others to him.

4. The guy can create forests in an instant.. why can't he create a buddha?

5. Rashoman is obviously a Senju jutsu..



Now answer me this, did you not see Hashirama using SM right off the bat as an Edo.. yes or no?

Minato could've easily used it to amplify the Barrier more. Oh hell not only that but help out the alliance also..

#GetReal

what kind of reasoning is that !!!
1.Minato's full powers were never realed too
2.Hashirama isn't a toad,slug,snake or jubi jin so what kind of SM is that ?
3.Minato is also the first true hero of Konoha , officially stamped in first page of naruto chapter 1. A truley unsurpassed ninja.
4.Minato can learn the most difficult of jutsus like FTG,Sealing,Rashingan so why can't he learn SM?
5.So is oro a senju too ???

 

[Dantee]

Said that last page, but yes. Lol

You need large reserves to obtain SM and it boosts all his further abilties why would he not use it.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

That was my intention. I actually have a feeling the mysterious man is just Kisame mid-sage mode.

I'd hope not. Kisame was given too great an ending scene for it to be ruined by dragging him back into what the manga is...

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmmm....I must say it wasn't obvious to me and I in no way expected it. I'm still addled at it.....

 

[WolfHaley]

I'd hope not. Kisame was given too great an ending scene for it to be ruined by dragging him back into what the manga is...

You don't get to make that choice considering you think he's inferior to Tobirama

 

[Punk Hazard]

The fact that "Madara" was a S/t User just proves why he didn't bother using sage mode against him. Minato knew that the only way to counter S/t is by another S/t Jutsu, hence why his main attack was FTG.

And i already discussed the other points with you already.

If only S/T against S/T was an option, why'd he use Rasengan and Fuiinjutsu? He could have, and should have, simply infused that Rasengan with Senjutsu. He entered Sage Mode almost instantly, and the dead can't train, so it's something he should have been able to do during life. He didn't use it against the greatest threat to the world, despite it being its one and only weakness. Why didn't he? Because Kishi only decided recently for him to have Sage Mode, therefore, it's an asspull.

 

[~Sky~]

Having 2 Senjutsu users on a nearly equal power level makes a whole lot of difference mate.

Nearly equal? What proof do you have of Minato's Sage Mode being near equal to Naruto's?

 

[Fair Warning]

You need large reserves to obtain SM and it boosts all his further abilties why would he not use it.

lel, now Minato has even bigger chakra reserves.

in base mode, he teleported the Juubi Bijuudama

 

[~Sky~]

His rasengan wasnt attached to arm and lost some of its chakra, and Kakashi has a hole in his chest IIRC, but its hard to tell in black and white

True, but Kakashi is alive and he sat up, and Obito's durability is far superior to Kakashi's.

 

[Joker]

Obviously you fail to comprehend what an "asspull" is meant when we are using it for Minato.


1. Hashirama's powers were never revealed.

2. Hashirama isn't a TOAD sage.. Minato is.. Big difference

3. Hashirama is the God of Shinobi.. don't even try to compare Minato and others to him.

4. The guy can create forests in an instant.. why can't he create a buddha?

5. Rashoman is obviously a Senju jutsu..



Now answer me this, did you not see Hashirama using SM right off the bat as an Edo.. yes or no?

Minato could've easily used it to amplify the Barrier more. Oh hell not only that but help out the alliance also..

#GetReal

I hope you're not saying Demon gates is exclusive senju...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

You don't get to make that choice considering you think he's inferior to Tobirama

That is actually you who believes that.

 

[Dantee]

lel, now Minato has even bigger chakra reserves.

in base mode, he teleported the Juubi Bijuudama

I don't think his reserves have anything to do with his S/T barrier. ofc this is just me speculating or else it's safe to assume Minato has bijuu like stamina which is impossible?

 

[Flawž]

If only S/T against S/T was an option, why'd he use Rasengan and Fuiinjutsu? He could have, and should have, simply infused that Rasengan with Senjutsu. He entered Sage Mode almost instantly, and the dead can't train, so it's something he should have been able to do during life. He didn't use it against the greatest threat to the world, despite it being its one and only weakness. Why didn't he? Because Kishi only decided recently for him to have Sage Mode, therefore, it's an asspull.

So giving minato Frog summons and Contracts, Having his Sensei and his Son know sage mode means that Kishi never planned to introduce sennin mode to minato until this chapter?

Do you really believe that?

 

[WolfHaley]

His rasengan wasnt attached to arm and lost some of its chakra, and Kakashi has a hole in his chest IIRC, but its hard to tell in black and white

To be honest though, something booted by someone as strong as Madara at such a velocity is going to have a greater effect on Kakashi than it would if Minato did it. Plus if the Rasengan is smaller the damage will be smaller in area, but deadlier.

That is actually you who believes that.

I have scans.