AlphaScythian
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Not necessarily cave, but in cave kabuto has slight advantage imho.Is this in the cave? Nonetheless....I'm leaning more towards Kabuto both times. In open space....I can't find a clear conclusion in my mind._@:
SM Minato and DSM Kabuto.
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Now you're just underestimating Kabuto. Madara and Izuna and Sasuke are not Kabuto. They do not have the regenerative abilities that Kabuto has. If Kabuto can notice and dodge a fireball in a split second, he has the capability of dodging Minato.
He shrugs Rasengan off.
Also, even if Kabuto gets decapitated, Oral Rebirth would still kick in.
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^Orochimaru is obviously dead
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^Like nothing ever happened.
And Kabuto can use Oral Rebirth out of three places, his mouth, his navel snake, or the Orochimaru copy. Decapitation is not a problem.
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its not debatable sages are fast yes but minato is the second fastest ninja alive he would easily outclass kabuto in speed. all it would take is a kunai to glance past him for minato to hit him just like when he fought obito. obito couldnt react because it all happened to fast even with his sharingan. he also has rebirth death seal for a last resortNo draws allowed
Debatable
Ma n PA didnt couldnt even pull the rod from j.man on their own until he *****ed. They arent noticing genjutsu as rods give similar effects.
Kabuto can negate sound by liquidizing his body as with white rage.
Hardly. Kabuto has good reflexes uchiha bros barely hit him. Too naive.
And orochimaru was chopped to pieces, suigetsu too.
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Kabuto isn't Madara, Izuna, or Sasuke, so moot point. Can Madara turn to liquid? Does Izuna have Auto Healing? Does Sasuke have Orochimaru's powers anymore? No, no and no. Kabuto can do all that though, so unless you think Orochimaru will die to a sword or a Kunai slash, Kabuto isn't dying to one either.
lol, that is FRS. Rasen Shuriken. Not Rasengan, so no, you are wrong again.
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the problem here isnt that minato isnt fast enough.. its dealing that finishing blow.. the liquifying effect makes things difficult and having to make minato wait for an opportune time.. then kabuto has oral rebirth if necersary..
unless minato manages to completely cut of the head shutting down the body and cutting the chakra system to his body while kabuto is in a solid state then yes minato can win imo but with high diff
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Yeah and kcm nardo was considered to be what? 1st, 2nd, 3rd? Fastest and didnt even pose any threat to itachi, sasuke now trolls him.
Just because Ay hypes him doesnt mean a thing, it was FTG anyway. He still didnt go against gai for example and in base speed a few could give him run for his money.
Obito didnt know about kunai + FTG combo, it was surpsire, he proved to avoid such things numerous times in manga.
So debatable U_U
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I know... But look at the scenario. Kabuto wasn't focusing. Out of nowhere, a fireball is right next to him ---> the effect of FTG. Kabuto noticed it, and countered it with his own Jutsu. DSM Kabuto's perception and reaction speed are capable of dodging Minato.
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dude you are exaggerating kabuto's power. Oral rebirth is a comparatively slow process and he is quite vulnerable at that time. Minato can simply keep on attacking kabuto while he is oral Rebirthing.
We have seen how speed and god like reflexes pawns even the god like shinobi like what Jubito and rikudo Madara has done to sasuke,minato,hashi,naruto.
now Imagine Minato is 3rd in speed and reflexes after these two ninjas hence its sure that Minato will keep on landing blows on kabuto whether he is SM or not.
and since Kabuto also don't have high caliber firepower and he relies in close combat . hence the battle will be close combat battle and the person with better speed and reflex will win this battle. so Minato >> kabuto
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No matter what you say, countering a fireball moving towards him is not even comparable to Minato teleporting instantaneously and striking him. He'd be lucky to be able to properly react let alone evade him, which definitely isn't happening.
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Itachi said it's hard to detect.
It only possible with mark on target due to closer range. Kabuto can remove via liquid or oral rebirth. Still no power to kill him.
Now you exaggerating minatos power, tobirama's FTG was owned by SM madara.
Kabuto has better sound genjutsu and can negate one with liquid. He can mine environment with webs and bones to prevent FTG around him or cover kunais.
Sorry kabuto has all the counters.
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Energy attacks interfere with liquifying.
Ransengan is the same as a TBB in the sense that it's compressed chakra. It's quite likely that it will interfere with liquifying. TBBs are much stronger than SM ransengans, but Suigetsu also had a lot of water shielding him as well.
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Ransengan is the same as a TBB in the sense that it's compressed chakra. It's quite likely that it will interfere with liquifying. TBBs are much stronger than SM ransengans, but Suigetsu also had a lot of water shielding him as well.
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Base Minato has one of the fastest shunshin and his reaction speed is above A in V2. Base Kabuto's physical stats are nowhere near Minato's level in terms of shunshin speed and reaction. Infact he already admitted himself in part1 to be weak in taijutsu. The natural energy only increases your base stats, so a perfect SM user like Minato would always be above DSM Kabuto simply because in their base stats, he is already above him. Now add his physical strength and durability that Kabuto lacks even in DSM, and he is comfortably above DSM Kabuto just by their physical capabilities
Kabuto implied the white rage jutsu doesn't work on Sage mode users
White rage uses sound vibration to paralyse the opponent, so it works basically similarly to the sage frog song used by Pa and Ma, and notice SM Naruto was capable to go through it without struggling unlike the summons and thus confirming Kabuto's words:
Depending on the location he may not be capable to use this move as well:
But we've already seen toad SM guaranteed Naruto to tank a similar attack:
Minato is a perfect SM user as well, so he should have no problems to tank it even if he didn't rely on dodging
To kill Kabuto? I'm pretty sure a rasengan of this size would kill him:
Before you even say Minato lacks such a feat, let me tell you that the Chou Odama rasengan is simply a rasengan in which you infused sage chakra to increase the size
Minato's base rasengan has already been shown to be bigger than normal. Since he mastered Sage Mode, it means he had high enough chakra to learn it. Adding Sage chakra into it, and there is no reason for him not being capable to use it
Kabuto implied the white rage jutsu doesn't work on Sage mode users
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White rage uses sound vibration to paralyse the opponent, so it works basically similarly to the sage frog song used by Pa and Ma, and notice SM Naruto was capable to go through it without struggling unlike the summons and thus confirming Kabuto's words:
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Depending on the location he may not be capable to use this move as well:
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But we've already seen toad SM guaranteed Naruto to tank a similar attack:
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Minato is a perfect SM user as well, so he should have no problems to tank it even if he didn't rely on dodging
To kill Kabuto? I'm pretty sure a rasengan of this size would kill him:
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Before you even say Minato lacks such a feat, let me tell you that the Chou Odama rasengan is simply a rasengan in which you infused sage chakra to increase the size
Minato's base rasengan has already been shown to be bigger than normal. Since he mastered Sage Mode, it means he had high enough chakra to learn it. Adding Sage chakra into it, and there is no reason for him not being capable to use it
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I'm saying that the fireball might as well have been instantaneous, as Kabuto only noticed it in the last split second. It is comparable. Is Minato still faster? Of course, but it is comparable.
Kabuto's Oral Rebirth is far from slow. It was quick enough to surprise attack Itachi. While it was at close range, it proves that it isn't slow.
Meanwhile, I don't recall anything in Minato's arsenal being enough to truly damage DSM Kabuto.
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