The Itachi vs Minato Thread

[Strict]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Because it's a difference to perceiving the battles which occur at the war and, after tracking the location of the opponent, blindly aim at him, as he wouldn't be able to dodge anyway because of his own blindness?

 

[Owarij]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

It was used but we don't know how. In this case how could we applicate it in a versus battle? What you're saying is basically as if we were starting to say all Itachi's opponents would fall for his genjutsu. We don't know how, but they would fall for it

What i'm saying is that kishi gave itachi a broken jutsu. Yes. That's clear as day based on the manga scans

 

[Prince Charles]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Its pointless in this match up anyway, its IC.

Did Minato go SM against Obito? No. obito 17 years ago? No. IC Minato would never even think of using SM.

Why would he not use sm? Just because he didn't use it against Obito in the heat of moment doesn't mean he wouldnt use it. IC or not he has access to sage mode.

 

[blazekev90]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

No no what I meant was he starts off his fights by activating his sharingan which is the instant you get caught.

But, I think i understand your logic here. By closing his eyes minato has time to prep a viable defence before sharingan comes on... I'll assume minato has intel to know about going to such drastic measure. If that's the case, It's entirely possible that minato can drag this fight past an initial genjutsu restraint. Would he win? Unlikely as exploding bushins and crow bushin feints are quite valid tactics in this battle if used correctly...

Good to know I got you to go through the manga lol. I sometimes have to do this when some people bring up a claim i didn't know that pushed me into a corner XD. Sometimes I lose, other times the person was intentionally withholding info

Yes, that's my stance whenever there is a Vs thread regarding Uchiha. Scans show that in most cases activation is key and in doing so it allows the opponent to take action.

For this particular match, in Itachi having to activate his sharingan, regardless of it being a a brief second Minato has the the ability to act accordingly consdiering his abilities. Here, one can state the spread of kunia, the use on clones, etc. Fron there the fight should really proceed. However, users ignore those simple steps in favor of their favorite character.

SN: i was so pissed to have had read all that and my post not go through due to server issues occurring at that time lol.

 

[Bogard]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Because it's a difference to perceiving the battles which occur at the war and, after tracking the location of the opponent, blindly aim at him, as he wouldn't be able to dodge anyway because of his own blindness?

I just showed a picture where SM Naruto was capable to see battlefields with sensing alone. For some reasons however you don't believe he can do that while fighting when nothing implies he can't(fighting Paths without light). We've seen Madara fodderising people just relying on sensing alone as well. Tbh the conception around not being capable to sense in battle is ridiculous to say the least

What i'm saying is that kishi gave itachi a broken jutsu. Yes. That's clear as day based on the manga scans

We are not sure if it's broken or not since we don't even know how it works

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Madara fodderised his opponents eyes close. SM Naruto fodderised some paths eyes close. There is no reason to believe Minato who always possess a perfect SM couldn't fight eyes close

Your implying that Minato is as stronger as Madara and that he has SM on the same level as Hashirama. Your implying Itachi is the equivalent of a tired fatigued Naruto and Sai......


Also you implying that Itachi is the equivalent of the fodder paths, as we seen against the strongest paths he certainly couldn't fight with his eyes closed. And what paths did he beat with his eyes closed again?​

 

[Bogard]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Your implying that Minato is as stronger as Madara and that he has SM on the same level as Hashirama. Your implying Itachi is the equivalent of a tired fatigued Naruto and Sai......


Also you implying that Itachi is the equivalent of the fodder paths, as we seen against the strongest paths he certainly couldn't fight with his eyes closed. And what paths did he beat with his eyes closed again?​

All what i'm implying here is that sensors are capable to fight eyes close(with Madara and Naruto as example). SM users could fight even better. There was no strength comparison in my examples

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

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[Prince Charles]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

He only used it against Madara just so he can actually harm him. He never did so against Obito.

Using SM for minato in any IC fights is laughable.

How exactly is it laughable? He has access to the ability to enter Sm so I see no reason to restrict it just because his only shown it against madara. He never showed it against obito? Your point is? It was the heat of moment as I said. And keep in mind these are mindless drawings at the end of the day and their actions depends on what kishi decides at the end of the day.

Anyway's IC or not as I said doesn't matter, he has sm so he can use it anytime he wants or see's fit.

 

[Icelerate]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Minato obviously wins. Mid difficulty victory for him. Didn't read any arguments though.

Edit: Changed my mind after reading this thread.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

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[Prince Charles]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Minato obviously wins. Mid difficulty victory for him. Didn't read any arguments though.

Although the arguments for Itachi sound more convincing to me for some reason I am starting to lean towards minato especially since he has sage mode now which further gives him a slight edge but it could still go either way.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

All what i'm implying here is that sensors are capable to fight eyes close(with Madara and Naruto as example). SM users could fight even better. There was no strength comparison in my examples

He may be able but that will only make the match that much easier for Itachi in the long run. At this point his blind spot shuriken might even bee able to get him.​

 

[Bogard]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

He may be able but that will only make the match that much easier for Itachi in the long run. At this point his blind spot shuriken might even bee able to get him.​

Why would it be easier for Itachi when his sensing ability is better than someone fighting with his eyes?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

I love how this entire discussion was reopened....


OT: Itachi u_u

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Why would it be easier for Itachi when his sensing ability is better than someone fighting with his eyes?

I don't get how is sensing abilities are better than someone with there eyes open. What feats have Minato shown to suggest that, the problem you have is giving Minato other peoples feats.​

 

[Bogard]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

I don't get how is sensing abilities are better than someone with there eyes open. What feats have Minato shown to suggest that, the problem you have is giving Minato other peoples feats.​

Naruto already said it's the natural energy that gave him his sensing feats [

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]. Minato's SM is similar to that of his son, why won't i give him his feats?

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

I don't get how is sensing abilities are better than someone with there eyes open. What feats have Minato shown to suggest that, the problem you have is giving Minato other peoples feats.​

That's a running theme with Minato ever since he was revived.​

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[BenjerminGaye]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

I don't get how is sensing abilities are better than someone with there eyes open. What feats have Minato shown to suggest that, the problem you have is giving Minato other peoples feats.​

Perfect sage mode users have the ability to sense like that.
There's nothing wrong with giving him sm naruto's sensing feats since naruto can only sense like that due to sm.


On top of that he's a innate sensor and already has feats of him sensing long distances, and chakra specifics, without sm.

 

[sindi1997]

Re: Thee Itachi vs Minato Thread

Bogard I m sry But could you repost Your Genjutsu counter agian I m too lazy too go search it up I would like to debate