Bold doesn't make any sense.
And stop arguing that Hashi DNA/Zetsu body doesn't give you stamina/chakra boost because it does. We've seen it through Danzo and Obito and now we are talking about full Zetsu body.
[VS] Lord Orochimaru VS Killer Bee
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And stop arguing that Hashi DNA/Zetsu body doesn't give you stamina/chakra boost because it does. We've seen it through Danzo and Obito and now we are talking about full Zetsu body.
KidGamer65
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You already know what I mean.
Maybe if you stopped fapping to Orochimaru for at least 1 second you would see that I never argued that. How does Orochimaru not having more chakra than B mean that he didn't get a boost in reserves? Lmao.
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DemonicAvenger
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You can't look at it in such a black and white fashion. You also have to take into account that Naruto was using chakra taxing attacks (including the most taxing one in the manga) while Obito was not. Then there's also chakra control which can make the amount of chakra used in a tech fluctuate.
As an example, Hebi Sasuke has more chakra than Itachi yet he ran out before Itachi did.
As an example, Hebi Sasuke has more chakra than Itachi yet he ran out before Itachi did.
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We all know what Zetsu is.
Your point? Obito is not Orochimaru, so please don't take his feats and give them to Orochimaru. Hashirama's DNA amplifies chakra, and is more compatible with Uchiha than it is with normal people, as shown by Yamato, who's body contains 100% Hashirama DNA, that has overwritten his own DNA. His reserves are piss poor compared to Obito, who only has half of his body made up of Hashirama's DNA.
Danzo is irrelevant here as you claimed Orochimaru had more chakra than Killer B; using Obito as evidence...lmao.
Good post.
How can Orochimaru have more chakra than current Orochimaru when the Orochimaru we are talking about right now IS current Orochimaru?... Your post was confusing.
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Kamui is noted as a MS techniques, it's a stated fact MS techniques wear its user down. Itachi and Sasuke illustrated this. Kakashi has expressed.the amount.of chakra used to perform jutsu is life threatening. The only difference between Kakashi and Obito was their bloodline. Similar to Kakashi, Danzo had to manage this concern.of chakra when wielding the sharingan. Danzo managed multple sharingan since he had senji DNA to assist in the matter.
Orochimaru and Sasuke has the same charka, yet Sasuke was draimed with one use of body replacement. Orochimari used three in a weakened state. Chakra control isn't a concern here oro/obito/sharingan/etc as it would be in that situation. This isn't about looking at everything "black n white" It's quite factual.
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Just because its a Mangekyo Jutsu does not mean that its chakra taxing, Rectangles are squares but squares are not rectangles. Similar doesn't mean the same.
Kakashi doesn't really matter either. Most Uchiha can use Sharingan without any noticeable chakra drain yet using Sharingan for Kakashi has him complaining about how much chakra it drains (not a factor anymore after he got his stamina buffs)
Kakashi doesn't really matter either. Most Uchiha can use Sharingan without any noticeable chakra drain yet using Sharingan for Kakashi has him complaining about how much chakra it drains (not a factor anymore after he got his stamina buffs)
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Which is why i used Danzo to illustrate how senji DNA comes into play. Danzo used multiple sharingan in comparison to the one Kakashi used.
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Have we really come down the lowly debate as stamina/chakra levels, especially when it's perfect Jinchuriki vs. a guy who stole DNA? Lol
Not to mention, didn't Hashirama admit chakra cloaks having more chakra than himself?
Not to mention, didn't Hashirama admit chakra cloaks having more chakra than himself?
He said "close to my levels" as i recall, can not remember the chapter though.
But Killer Bee's reserves are obviously above Orochimaru's; even while assuming othervise outlasting is not an option since Killer Bee can literally spam the superior version of certain thing (bijuudama) that Orochimaru himself stated he would die over.
He said ''almost'' in the Viz. Though he meant the Shinobi cloaks. Not the Bijuu's Chakra overall.
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Killer decks this guy pretty badly; Orochimaru doesn't stand a chance. His best defence got annihilated by a half baked TBB from 4-tailed Naruto. Bee sends him to hell.
It's not KBee love, its just Oru hate. All of them put bee out of character for him to win. They are still clueless to his powers (every single one of them besides about 1-2 users). And before they use Wiki to look up his moves. lmao
I agree bee wins, but not low nor close to it. It's more so Mid-high. Bee never ever ever starts in BM, and never launches Close ranged TBB (him being hit as well). With that into consideration the fight is closer then most think it isn't. I know Bee like the back of my hand, and know Oru as well the same. Oru has his ways and it depends on which oru that could make it closer or less closer.