Shitting on the Genjutsu arguments by Itachi fans

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Until this point, Itachi fans believes that a genjutsu by their beloved Itachi can one shot Minato. If we'll look back at those genjutsus used by Itachi so far then we'll come with 6 genjutsu techniques shown so far. Let's examine 1 by 1 what genjutsu is capable of defeating Minato.

1. Demonic Illusion: Burning Paper Body! This genjutsu requires the Sharingan and eye contact to be activated. The illusion traps the victim in a dark empty space where their body is made of paper that burns from toe to head while the user is watching. The technique will make it harder for the target to move properly.

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The scan above shows how Itachi uses Demonic Illusion. This genjutsu clearly affects body movement. What 1 must do to counter this? The scan below shows Kakashi escaping via a shadow clone. We all know Minato can use shadow clone and of course FTG can be used as well since the technique only affects body movement and FTG does not require body movement at all.

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2. Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth . The user decrypts a genjutsu that has been applied onto them and casts back a technique with identical effects onto the opponent. This is an illusion reversal so this is not needed.

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3. Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes! This technique requires the use of the Sharingan and direct eye contact. The opponent is caught in the illusionary world created by the user, and the victim will be tormented with the sensation of having spikes driven through their limbs, taking away their body's freedom. What does this tech affects? Movement!

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The scan above shows that Oro was caught by the genjutsu but if you notice how he knows that he was caught in it and he even tried to move to escape it. We all know that Minato's way of escaping a hit is by the use of FTG. FTG does not require hand seals or movement. Minato can activate it in a flash. He was able to activate FTG cm away from A's punch. Again, most of these genjutsu by Itachi is short range.

4. Ephemeral! Itachi will start this technique by using only one finger on his right hand. His target does not have to look into his eyes, a glance at the hand itself will be enough. Once inside the illusion, he can control the visions the ninja sees. One of the famouse genjutsu used by Itachi fans..lol

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The above scan shows that Naruto was trapped in a genjutsu but noticed how Naruto was able to figure out that he was trap in a genjutsu. It simply shows that Naruto is in his state of mind. Will this work against Minato who can teleport from one place to another without even moving? lol NO!

5. Dusk Crow Genjutsu. This genjutsu can trap a victim in an illusion with no eye contact, similar to Ephemeral. It was derived from ephemeral as it's parent jutsu. Notice how Itachi uses handseal to perform this tech. Again, this tech affects the vision and not the mind. Is his speed upon making a handseal fast enough against Minato who can speed blitz even a distance of 100m?

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Also this scan below shows why a shadow clone is needed. Even those outside Konoha knows what method to use against a sharingan user. It's foolish to say that Minato will not attempt to use bunshin knowing that his opponent is an Uchiha.

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6. Tsukuyomi! The mighty tsukuyomi that Itachi fans are so proud of yet they fail to analyze 1 thing. This genjutsu is short range. I bet not even 1 Itachi fan can tell me what distance tsukuyomi can be used effectively because all of those battle where Itchi is using tsukuyomi, it clearly shows that he should be near his target. Even the scan shows that he needed to change from ordinary to MS sharingan to use it. Changing it takes time.

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Even Kakashi had time to warn the others and he knows what Itachi is planning. Saying that Minato a Hokage does not know about this technique is plainly stupid. How did Kakashi knows about tsukuyomi? That was the first time he encounters an MS tech. Do you think Kakashi is more knowledgeable than Minato in terms of this? Let me remind everyone once again that tsukuyomi is a short range tech. Short range means speed blitz gg!

For minor genjutsus, someone like Minato who can adapt to another person's specific chakra type can easily counter it. It was even explained by Jiraiya how to counter it.

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Conclusion: Most genjutsu by Itachi affects movement. This is all supported my manga scans. We all know that FTG can be used without body movement. In short, a genjutsu that affects movement is useless against Minato. He can easily escape it. Only tsukuyomi is the real threat here but this tsukuyomi is overrated by Itachi fans. They think that Itachi can use it effectively without considering the distance. Short range fight against Minato is speed blitz gg U_U
 
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lol wtf is this crap?

w/o a partner or tailed beast

you will be one shotted by a genjutsu user like itachi
 

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Ephemeral still work. Minato can't break out instantly. In that time Itachi can amaterasu him or susano'o seal him.
 

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lol wtf is this crap?

w/o a partner or tailed beast

you will be one shotted by a genjutsu user like itachi

Read. Shadow clones! Are you reading it properly?
 

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Ephemeral still work. Minato can't break out instantly. In that time Itachi can amaterasu him or susano'o seal him.

Really? Even Naruto realizes that he was under the genjutsu. It shows that he is in his state of mind. Without affecting Minato's mind, FTG says hello.
 

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So to sum it all up, Lord Madara solos both at the same time.
 
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This is nice and all but i believe you went about it the wrong way now that people can't deny anymore Minato is a sensor

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Sensors are capable to sense chakra build inside the body(like you can see above with Minato as well)

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It helps to prevent even occular attacks

Also, even in case you're caught inside a genjutsu(outside tsukuyomi of course) a sensor can identify it directly by noticing the disturbance in the flow. It works for every genjutsu since even Shisui's KA was detected by Ao

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Well itachi is a liar so he lied about tsukuyomi one shotting anyone who does not share the same uchiha blood as him.
 

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This is nice and all but i believe you went about it the wrong way now that people can't deny anymore Minato is a sensor

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Sensors are capable to sense chakra build inside the body(like you can see above with Minato as well)

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It helps to prevent even occular attacks

Also, even in case you're caught inside a genjutsu(outside tsukuyomi of course) a sensor can identify it directly by noticing the disturbance in the flow. It works for every genjutsu since even Shisui's KA was detected by Ao

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true. they are still in denial though. just stating other ways why genjutsu is rendered useless. explaining it in laymans term..:)

Well itachi is a liar so he lied about tsukuyomi one shotting anyone who does not share the same uchiha blood as him.

I was thinking about this as well because if no one can break tsukuyomi then why is he afraid of Jiraiya..That guy is definitely a liar..:)

Word of advice my friend.
That girl/boy doesnt know how to read or write properly. She needs to go back to school.

yeah..just as i thought..hehe
 
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This is nice and all but i believe you went about it the wrong way now that people can't deny anymore Minato is a sensor

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Sensors are capable to sense chakra build inside the body(like you can see above with Minato as well)

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It helps to prevent even occular attacks

Also, even in case you're caught inside a genjutsu(outside tsukuyomi of course) a sensor can identify it directly by noticing the disturbance in the flow. It works for every genjutsu since even Shisui's KA was detected by Ao

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still bogard i dont think minato w/o kurama is going to beat itachi

he may break out of genjutsu but thats a big may


itachi isnt your average genjutsu user, his genjutsu was second to Shishu the best genjutsu user in the manga
 

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And how do you expect Minato to figure out he's in one without Itachi blatantly telling him or having Minato's friends burst into crows?

We've seen that Minato does not randomly check his chakra flow even against an Uchiha. So without knowing he's in a genjutsu, he's not going to check if he's in one. It's a pretty big catch 22 for him.

PS: Never state that you're shitting on an opionion. It makes you look like the biggest arrogant, douche.
 
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still bogard i dont think minato w/o kurama is going to beat itachi

he may break out of genjutsu but thats a big may


itachi isnt your average genjutsu user, his genjutsu was second to Shishu the best genjutsu user in the manga

What genjutsu can beat Minato? tsukuyomi? Consider the distance first and how he shifted from ordinary to MS. That time alone takes time. Do you think he can use tsukuyomi with a distance of 20m plus?

And how do you expect Minato to figure out he's in one without Itachi blatantly telling him or having Minato's friends burst into crows?

lol..If Naruto notices it then why can't Minato a Hokage level?
 

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Not really an Itachi fan, so i just skipped to Tsukiyomi, i would have laughed but i'm listening to some good music right now. You just put utter BS together.

It was never stated that it's short range, for all we know genjutsu sharingan techs require eye contact.

What's this BS about changing taking time, pretty sure he didn't take time when fighting Sasuke, the only time when Uchihas take time with it is for an epic reveal like Itachi did in VS Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai.

Kakashi knew Itachi was going to use MS not what tech. If he knew i'm pretty sure Itachi won't have bothered telling him about it.

And what the hell does being Hokage have to do with knowing about MS techs, Hiruzen was Hokage and he didn't even know Itachi had MS.

In conclusion: Post facts and not false claims
 

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What genjutsu can beat Minato? tsukuyomi? Consider the distance first and how he shifted from ordinary to MS. That time alone takes time. Do you think he can use tsukuyomi with a distance of 20m plus?

arnt you going to feed that troll?

ot- tsukuyomi,his crows many other various genjutsu .

i think your under estimating itachi just a lil to much.

Minato cant look in his eyes, w/0 risk of being hit with genjutsu

Minato cant be hit with tsukuyomi otherwise its 90% he toast.

Minato cant really afford to be hit by any genjutsu because itachi would take advantage


i do agree with kurama minato could win, due to speed+kurama+skills of minato
 
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