[VS] Minato and Itachi VS Nagato and Tobirama

who wins?

  • Uchiha/Namikaze

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VongolaX

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And? Kurama cloak tanked the Juubi's Tenpachi. Does that mean a Kurama cloak would tank Gojou Kibakufuda?


He can use CST, CT and a combination of his Paths would destroy his Susanoo.

You're forgetting his Edo.

My statement had a basis.

GK, CT, CST, combination of Animal Path, Asura Path and Deva Path.

And how many times have we seen Complete Susanoo?
1. Yes, yes it can...:|

2. Ct would get fodderized by the totsukya blade, and Nagato can't use all his path abilities with ct.
It has not been shown.

Nagato is only 1 body, I hope you remember that?

He doesn't have six bodies, and mobility at the same time.

He only uses his hell's king and animal summoning for paths.

3. You're forgetting Susanoo(it already sealed up one Edo, wanna go for two?)

4. What basis?

You gave no explanation whatsoever, on a bales statement with no feat in sight.

5. Refer to #2

6. How man time have we seen complete Susanoo?

Well unless Sasuke, itachi, and especially Madara didn't exists then we have seen no screen time. :|

Including the fact that Madara allows uses all forms of Susanoo.

Need I post more?
 

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Minato and Itachi take this Mid difficulty.

Itachi already solo'd Nagato. Don't give me that Kabuto controlled him BS crap. He used Chibaku tensei, it got destroyed, Totsuka 1 manga chapter'd him. Even Kabuto states Nagato's lack of mobility was the reason Itachi beat him.

Tobirama already admitted inferiority speed-wise to Minato.

Itachi destroys Chibaku tensei w/ Yasaka magatama. Tsukuyomi 1 shots Nagato because to break Tsukuyomi Itachi stated

If Nagato tries to fly with Summonings, Minato gets to him or Itachi amaterasus it.

Itachi won't pull out susano'o unless forced to. He always uses genjutsu first, which is why he can take nagato relatively quick.
 
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Minato and Itachi take this Mid difficulty.

Itachi already solo'd Nagato. Don't give me that Kabuto controlled him BS crap. He used Chibaku tensei, it got destroyed, Totsuka 1 manga chapter'd him. Even Kabuto states Nagato's lack of mobility was the reason Itachi beat him.

Tobirama already admitted inferiority speed-wise to Minato.

Itachi destroys Chibaku tensei w/ Yasaka magatama. Tsukuyomi 1 shots Nagato because to break Tsukuyomi Itachi stated

If Nagato tries to fly with Summonings, Minato gets to him or Itachi amaterasus it.

Itachi won't pull out susano'o unless forced to. He always uses genjutsu first, which is why he can take nagato relatively quick.
That's a good observation on itachi's point...

He always start off with genjustu so he can control the battlefield.

While Minato always mark his opponents first before fighting, and depending on the opponent he will send a clone to mark his opponent.
 

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That's a good observation on itachi's point...

He always start off with genjustu so he can control the battlefield.

While Minato always mark his opponents first before fighting, and depending on the opponent he will send a clone to mark his opponent.
Thank you, there's enough evidence from the manga that suggests Itachi goes for a genjutsu battle first.

He always begins with crow genjutsu (Refer to Itachi vs P2 Naruto/Kakashi, Hebi Sasuke vs Itachi, Edo Itachi vs Killer bee). He Tsukuyomi'd Kakashi (I get that he was trying to end the fight quickly w/o killing him). He used Tsukuyomi before Amaterasu and Susano'o on Hebi Sasuke.

Since Itachi specializes in Genjutsu, he goes for a genjutsu battle first before being forced otherwise.
 

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1. Yes, yes it can...:|
lol, not gonna bother with this.
2. Ct would get fodderized by the totsukya blade, and Nagato can't use all his path abilities with ct.
It has not been shown.
Ah, I'm guessing the Totsuka Blade would seal the orb that's creating the gravitational pull?

Nagato is only 1 body, I hope you remember that?

He doesn't have six bodies, and mobility at the same time.
You do know that when Nagato himself is fighting, he's more dangerous than the 6 Paths? He can use all his Paths in one body.

3. You're forgetting Susanoo(it already sealed up one Edo, wanna go for two?)
He sealed Nagato because his vision was obscured by the smoke. If Naruto or Bee weren't there, Itachi would have comfortably been sealed up by CT.
4. What basis?

You gave no explanation whatsoever, on a bales statement with no feat in sight.
A basis that should be clearly obvious to you if you read the manga.

Well unless Sasuke, itachi, and especially Madara didn't exists then we have seen no screen time. :|

Including the fact that Madara allows uses all forms of Susanoo.

Need I post more?
-Itachi's Complete Susanoo went down due to dying.
-Sasuke's never gone up against powerhouses. The only time he has was against Juubito, and it was mainly Naruto doing the fighting against him.
-We've only ever seen Madara use Susanoo against Hashirama.

Your statement implied only Hashirama is capable of taking down Susanoo which is clearly false.
 
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Alive minato can't withstand the kyuubi's chakra and even if he can it won't be long not enough to pose a threat. Ofcourse they will win with kyuubi if minato is allow edo body.
Why don't u just assume that he can handel it for the sake of this thread?

Itachi'll never fight Tobirama and Tobirama would fight along with Nagato but still we are assuming that they'll fight eachother why can't u do the same thing for Minato?
 

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Why don't u just assume that he can handel it for the sake of this thread?

Itachi'll never fight Tobirama and Tobirama would fight along with Nagato but still we are assuming that they'll fight eachother why can't u do the same thing for Minato?
Because giving alive minato kurama is the same thing as giving Itachi the ability to spam his MS without going blind.
 

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Because giving alive minato kurama is the same thing as giving Itachi the ability to spam his MS without going blind.
I can't see any problem with that, OP can make the conditions as he wish and everything we can do is to answer his qustion according to his conditions.It is not like Itachi would go blind after using his MS in single battle.
Why are u guys only complaining about Minato? Didn't OP Mentioned that it is healthy Itachi,Tobirama with an EDO and healthy Nagato?


How can u say that Minato can't handel Kyuubi's chakra?

Is it because he said that he feel heavy after sealing Kyuubi's chakra? If so he should be dead right after sealing the Kyuubi if he can't handel it's chakra but that didn't happend and Minato moved freely after a couple of secs.I can't see a reason why Minato can't handel 50% Kyuubi if kid Naruto can.As far as I know Minato died because of RDS it has nothing to do with Kyuubi's chakra.
 
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I can't see any problem with that, OP can make the conditions as he wish and everything we can do is to answer his qustion according to his conditions.It is not like Itachi would go blind after using his MS in single battle.
Why are u guys only complaining about Minato? Didn't OP Mentioned that it is healthy Itachi,Tobirama with an EDO and healthy Nagato?
Well then the minato he's talking about simply becomes nothing more than fanfiction.

How can u say that Minato can't handel Kyuubi's chakra?

Is it because he said that he feel heavy after sealing Kyuubi's chakra? If so he should be dead right after sealing the Kyuubi if he can't handel it's chakra but that didn't happend and Minato moved freely after a couple of secs.I can't see a reason why Minato can't handel 50% Kyuubi if kid Naruto can.As far as I know Minato died because of RDS it has nothing to do with Kyuubi's chakra.
He used RDS to seal that chakra, RDS kills you, therefore minato should be dead if he has any chance at using kurama's chakra [when not speaking of fanfic characters].
 

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Well then the minato he's talking about simply becomes nothing more than fanfiction.
I guess almost every character in VS match up are fanfics made up of assumptions.

He used RDS to seal that chakra, RDS kills you, therefore minato should be dead if he has any chance at using kurama's chakra [when not speaking of fanfic characters].
That dosen't mean that he can't handel Kyuubi's chakra though.
We have been making so many assumptions in our threads.IMO it is not impossible to just assume a Minato with Kyuubi's chakra who can be killed by normal attacks for the sake of this thread.
 

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lol, not gonna bother with this.

Ah, I'm guessing the Totsuka Blade would seal the orb that's creating the gravitational pull?


You do know that when Nagato himself is fighting, he's more dangerous than the 6 Paths? He can use all his Paths in one body.


He sealed Nagato because his vision was obscured by the smoke. If Naruto or Bee weren't there, Itachi would have comfortably been sealed up by CT.

A basis that should be clearly obvious to you if you read the manga.


-Itachi's Complete Susanoo went down due to dying.
-Sasuke's never gone up against powerhouses. The only time he has was against Juubito, and it was mainly Naruto doing the fighting against him.
-We've only ever seen Madara use Susanoo against Hashirama.

Your statement implied only Hashirama is capable of taking down Susanoo which is clearly false.
Well I know that he has all path in one body, even if it gets stronger, it's not strong enough to match a Susanoo or juubi Tenpachii.

Smoke obscured the rinnegan eyes?

You realize that it is a bullsh*t excuse?

He can see chakra and sense people too, he was able to sense bee while being controlled too.

Itachi literally saved bee and naruto, the best part is when Susanoo chopped him...

He would of died if he wasn't Edo tensei.

Chibakui tensei doesn't seal up Edo tensei anyway :|

Madara has shown the strength of complete Susanoo against the kages and alliance.

Also Sasuke against Danzo and the kages in the summit...

^^That's enough feats for complete Susanoo
 

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I guess almost every character in VS match up are fanfics made up of assumptions.
Not really, only certain conditions make them fanfics, like in my example of itachi using MS without suffering from blindness. That would be a fanfic Itachi.

This minato is simply fanfiction.

That dosen't mean that he can't handel Kyuubi's chakra though.
We have been making so many assumptions in our threads.IMO it is not impossible to just assume a Minato with Kyuubi's chakra who can be killed by normal attacks for the sake of this thread.
The point is that RDS was used to seal the chakra, put alive minato in any scenario & its the minato that sealed the chakra of kurama with RDS, meaning he dies.

Never said it was impossible, just clarifying that this condition makes as much sense as giving an MS uchiha EMS level power.
 

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Team 1 wins.

Minato is a good matchup to counter nagato. With his heavily kunai based fighting style, he can exploit deva's cooldown and bypass preta's absorption. While minato plays around with nagato, Itachi quickly mops the floor with tobirama.

That just leaves itachi + minato to run circles around Nagato.

Bonus: Minato tags itachi so he can now FTG itachi around the place and out of any possible danger tobirama could produce.

EDIT: Minato has kurama? Lmfao this is just a stomp. Minato shares Kurama cloak with Itachi and it's a shitstomp from there onward.
 
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