[Discussion] Madara: The dumbest smart person ever.
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Re: Is there a reason Madara coughed up the Sage Weapons...?
Nah man it is in madaras character to not care for the tools. He simply did not want to carry them as there was no need to. He only wants his eye and complete infinite tsukiyomi. He actually has no purpose or use for the tools. Even if the whole alliance attacked him. Without Naruto or Hashirama's senjutsu they have no chance and even with that. Madara wins low mid difficulty. The tools were weighing him down.
Nah man it is in madaras character to not care for the tools. He simply did not want to carry them as there was no need to. He only wants his eye and complete infinite tsukiyomi. He actually has no purpose or use for the tools. Even if the whole alliance attacked him. Without Naruto or Hashirama's senjutsu they have no chance and even with that. Madara wins low mid difficulty. The tools were weighing him down.
Umari Senju
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Re: Soooooo....Madara Just Nerfed Himself....huh...
It is a good point you brought up though. If ineed there is nothing left in those jars, then they will be used to seal Madara then I suppose. But I am guessing since they were handed to Team Gai who just spotted Naruto and gang overhead, they are going to be used to keep Naruto alive since their is no other source of Kyuubi Chakra to draw upon since Black Zetsu stole it.
Yeah I think the Hachibi's tail part was the one Sasuke brought back to the Akatuski as far as I can remember. And yeah Kinkaku and Ginkaku got thier Kyuubi chakra from eating him from the inside. Those jars were thrown into the Gedo to revive the Juubi this is ture. But liek the Bijuu when the Juubi was extracted from Obito I assume the chakra went back to their designated spots and not directly back to the beast. At least my theory, I have no way of proving that mind you.
It is a good point you brought up though. If ineed there is nothing left in those jars, then they will be used to seal Madara then I suppose. But I am guessing since they were handed to Team Gai who just spotted Naruto and gang overhead, they are going to be used to keep Naruto alive since their is no other source of Kyuubi Chakra to draw upon since Black Zetsu stole it.
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Re: Soooooo....Madara Just Nerfed Himself....huh...
@Underline, maybe the yin kurama will take control over black zetsu because he's full of ''hatred'' maybe?
@Bold, you got a good point.
@Underline, maybe the yin kurama will take control over black zetsu because he's full of ''hatred'' maybe?
Madara discarding the tools is a metaphore for kishi disregaurding all he's ever written about madara. Hahahah kishi should get a nb account so he could rip off the members good ideas. He's obviously losing his creativity.
Umari Senju
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OMG this^ I really don't care how he is beaten; Naruto, Sasuke, Naruto and Sasuke, the entire NV universe, some unknown guy,sealed away by sage's tools, etc. Just please don't TNJ him, I wil scream foul so loud if this happens.
RikudouMadara
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Re: Is there a reason Madara coughed up the Sage Weapons...?
Haha priceless.... The truly beautiful witty remarks go unnoticed I feel. Due to the overall age here on the base. My opinion....but that was a good one Sir. ^_^
valandil988
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Sages tools CANNOT seal Madara. The sage resorted to using himself as a vessel for the sealing. The tools seem to be previous attempts to seal the juubi that failed. The sealing pot for example can't hold the hachibi forever either never mind the Kyuubi. So no the "power ups" might stall him, but it wouldn't defeat him lol.
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FearxDeath
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You need to question the power of the tools. All there power comes from their sealing capabilities, but one must question 1) Whether Madara in his new form is even susceptible to the ninja tools and 2) Whether Madara would be foolish enough to fall for them.
Umari Senju
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Re: Is there a reason Madara coughed up the Sage Weapons...?
XD Zing Nice one! XD
narutoblitz
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Nobody has chakra to use the tools in any case. Madara will not be undone by something as silly as a toy. It would destroy the story to have him be undone by something so silly after the main characters all failed. Bad thread is bad.
valandil988
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Nobody has the chakra? Errr Durp so I suppose the village hidden in the clouds phoned up the sage of six paths to seal the hachibi for them in the sealing Pot?
I agree that the tools cannot PERMANENTLY seal Madara but they could stall him. That's a valuable possibility in such a battle, that advantage could be needed.
The tools could cause Madara a moment of pause or trouble that's an opportunity, you also don't need skill to use them, you call out the name of the person or thing you wish to seal and its sealed lol.
ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD
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Hmmm I really like this theory it makes complete sense why he would use his body and not those tools good job bro
For some who think he'll be sealed with a simple weapon, think again.
Each of these items demonstrate unusual and distinctive abilities. However, their usage consumes an enormous amount of chakra, so much so that a normal human could die if they used them. These five treasures were eventually gathered together by Kumogakure where they came into the possession of the Gold and Silver Brothers. As the siblings possessed immense chakra reserves and then later became imbued with a small amount of Kurama's chakra, they were capable of wielding the treasures without fatal repercussions.
Taken from the narutopedia. Yes, it's a reference I pasted. So for someone to use these tools to defeat Madara or at least seal him temporarily will have to be sage mode and with Minato's part of Kurama taken and Naruto pretty much dead with the other alliance forces hobbled to their knees, it's going to be interesting exactly how Kishi will do this. :yeah: Though it is pretty obvious the tools will play a role.
For those saying TenTen will be able... No. She doesn't have the power-up for it.
Each of these items demonstrate unusual and distinctive abilities. However, their usage consumes an enormous amount of chakra, so much so that a normal human could die if they used them. These five treasures were eventually gathered together by Kumogakure where they came into the possession of the Gold and Silver Brothers. As the siblings possessed immense chakra reserves and then later became imbued with a small amount of Kurama's chakra, they were capable of wielding the treasures without fatal repercussions.
Taken from the narutopedia. Yes, it's a reference I pasted. So for someone to use these tools to defeat Madara or at least seal him temporarily will have to be sage mode and with Minato's part of Kurama taken and Naruto pretty much dead with the other alliance forces hobbled to their knees, it's going to be interesting exactly how Kishi will do this. :yeah: Though it is pretty obvious the tools will play a role.
For those saying TenTen will be able... No. She doesn't have the power-up for it.
A rifle is stronger than a handgun? But either party still has a high chance of dying.
Imagine if the side with the rifle, removes the handgun from the other side, but keeps the rifle... that was Madara's situation using your comparisons. He chose to allow them to wield a - as you say - 'handgun' against him with his 'rifle'.
Why would you not take that option?
Why would you instead choose to... 'here have some legendary weapons, it'd cost me zero effort to deal with them, but I doubt they'll work against me so **** it'
The relative power of the weapons to Madara is irrelevant... what's relevant is that they are powerful tools and Madara chose to allow them to be used against him when he had every opportunity, requiring little to no effort, to not allow them to be used against him. Why would anyone, let alone Madara, make that decision? It makes no sense.
Imagine if the side with the rifle, removes the handgun from the other side, but keeps the rifle... that was Madara's situation using your comparisons. He chose to allow them to wield a - as you say - 'handgun' against him with his 'rifle'.
The thing is - Madara had the option to leave them armed with nothing.
Why would you not take that option?
Why would you instead choose to... 'here have some legendary weapons, it'd cost me zero effort to deal with them, but I doubt they'll work against me so **** it'
The relative power of the weapons to Madara is irrelevant... what's relevant is that they are powerful tools and Madara chose to allow them to be used against him when he had every opportunity, requiring little to no effort, to not allow them to be used against him. Why would anyone, let alone Madara, make that decision? It makes no sense.