3rd Raikage VS Tobirama (2 different scenarios)

How do the scenarios play out?

  • Tobirama wins both

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  • Tobirama wins scenario one, Raikage wins scenario two

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  • Tobirama wins scenario two, Raikage wins scenario one

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  • Raikage wins both

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If I count, how many elite shinobis became fodder to explosive tags.

Whether fodder or not, if one thousand edo's start simultaneously exploding...

Konan's 600 billion tags will look like fire crackers in comparison.
 

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Raikage wins the first and Tobirama wins with ease in the second one.



lol? Please explain to me how in the world this makes sense. By this logic Bijuu Dama wouldn't damage him since its not a wind element.

Gojo is leaps and bounds above FRS in strength, so the simply fact of the matter is Gojo turns him into paste. It doesn't need to be a Wind Element, if its strong enough to rip through his defenses, that that's what it'll do.
I meant that Gojo's power doesn't cover up to the FRS being wind, to make up for not being a wind technique Gojo needs to be A LOT more powerful than rasenshuriken, and i would say its only twice stronger. Against lightining shield users FRS is way better than Gojo, Gojo is stronger , but the fact that FRS didn't even scratch the raikage means that Gojo needs a lot of power to harm the raikage since its not wind, and the difference between Gojo and FRS is not big enough to say that Gojo makes up for the lack of elemental advantage. FRS had a 100% TOTAL ADVANTAGE against lightining armour, and still the raikage tanked it, Gojo would need to be like 5x times stronger to do something to the sandaime.

Bijuudama is a different story, Bijudama >> Gojo and lightining armour
 

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He did have a lightning shroud. That Rasenshuriken took away his lightning shroud but it saved him from receiving the full force of the attack.
I think Suidanha can cut the body if the Raikage does not have the shroud on. But if he tanked FRS without the shroud, that dude is a freak.
 

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Raikage wins the first and Tobirama wins with ease in the second one.



lol? Please explain to me how in the world this makes sense. By this logic Bijuu Dama wouldn't damage him since its not a wind element.

Gojo is leaps and bounds above FRS in strength, so the simply fact of the matter is Gojo turns him into paste. It doesn't need to be a Wind Element, if its strong enough to rip through his defenses, that that's what it'll do.
Based on manga evidence he tanked a TBB. Just saying
 

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He probably dodged it, tanking a TBB is too much.
Impossible based on manga evidence and proof. The range of a TBB would suggest he would be FTG speed in terms of getting out of range (basically impossible). Plus the fact he was in the face of Habchi as well is more then enough proof. TBB was indeed tanked and he is that powerful in terms of endurance.
 

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I meant that Gojo's power doesn't cover up to the FRS being wind, to make up for not being a wind technique Gojo needs to be A LOT more powerful than rasenshuriken, and i would say its only twice stronger. Against lightining shield users FRS is way better than Gojo, Gojo is stronger , but the fact that FRS didn't even scratch the raikage means that Gojo needs a lot of power to harm the raikage since its not wind, and the difference between Gojo and FRS is not big enough to say that Gojo makes up for the lack of elemental advantage. FRS had a 100% TOTAL ADVANTAGE against lightining armour, and still the raikage tanked it, Gojo would need to be like 5x times stronger to do something to the sandaime.

Bijuudama is a different story, Bijudama >> Gojo and lightining armour
Gojo, an explosion that dwarfs Bijuu, is FAR stronger than FRS, so it easily has the necessary power to override the fact its not a Fuuton.

You pulled the bold out of your arse.

Based on manga evidence he tanked a TBB. Just saying
Pretty sure that a Bijuu Dama collapses if the , which is what seems to have happened to Hachibi.
 

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Temari would've ended him if he were alive. You can quite clearly see he was diced in that scan.
Nope because he wasn't revived in his strongest state. Edo version is weaker than alive version. And it wasn't just temaris jutsu, it was a couple others combined too. The jutsu cut him but it didn't slice him up, he was still standing and the proceeded to kill some alliance fodder. Plus Raikage wanted them to attack him, he didn't even try to evade, which is why he didn't activate his lightning shroud. He was even telling them his weaknesses but they still couldn't stop him.

When kabuto took over his mind completely, then he kept the lightning shroud constantly up. If Raikage was alive, temari would be dead.
 

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Gojo, an explosion that dwarfs Bijuu, is FAR stronger than FRS, so it easily has the necessary power to override the fact its not a Fuuton.

You pulled the bold out of your arse.



Pretty sure that a Bijuu Dama collapses if the , which is what seems to have happened to Hachibi.

Hmm the Kyubi was clearly hit by a sealing tech that can seal the Juubi so ofc it was interrupted. And that isn't the same as falling with there Jutsu's in tact. The 6 tails kyuibi when interupted also had his TBB explode (deva tanked it btw):

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On that Raikage and 8tails Picture. I've just noticed something.. Look at the before when they were standing about to unleash there attacks, then look at the collapsed version of 8tails. Notice he has wounds and damage to his upper body he didn't have at first...

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And when Hit by his Own TBB or a TBB this is how the 8 tails body looks from damage:

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He gets bloody with Ink over his body. And it couldnt have been the Raikage to damage him like that because the Raikage 1) fell over on his hand 2) should show Slashing cuts not bruised body.

Basically this 99.9% shows they both tanked a TBB.

Unless your stating he magically Applied those wounds from air, they both tanked a Tailed beast bomb. Both literally fell with their jutsu's active. And the smoke from the area shows something went off (not the fall from the habachi). Unless you can explain the TBB like damage to the 8 tails, manga shows it was a TBB explosion.
 
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Hmm the Kyubi was clearly hit by a sealing tech that can seal the Juubi so ofc it was interrupted. And that isn't the same as falling with there Jutsu's in tact. The 6 tails kyuibi when interupted also had his TBB explode (deva tanked it btw)
Its simply a physical restraint, it has no special properties. All it does is pin its target, so that doesn't change the fact that it crumbled away when interrupted, and if the Bijuu Dama was still in the Hachibi's mouth (Which it was) the same would happen when he fell over on his face.


Deva was incapcitated by a Rasengan, pretty sure he didn't tank a Bijuu Dama from KN6.

On that Raikage and 8tails Picture. I've just noticed something.. Look at the before when they were standing about to unleash there attacks, then look at the collapsed version of 8tails. Notice he has wounds and damage to his upper body he didn't have at first...

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And when Hit by his Own TBB or a TBB this is how the 8 tails body looks from damage:

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He gets bloody with Ink over his body. And it couldnt have been the Raikage to damage him like that because the Raikage 1) fell over on his hand 2) should show Slashing cuts not bruised body.

Basically this 99.9% shows they both tanked a TBB.

Unless your stating he magically Applied those wounds from air, they both tanked a Tailed beast bomb. Both literally fell with their jutsu's active. And the smoke from the area shows something went off (not the fall from the habachi). Unless you can explain the TBB like damage to the 8 tails, manga shows it was a TBB explosion.
He only has those 2 point like scars on his body (The point like scars are probably from the Raikage stabbing him) he doesn't have any other noticeable scars; unlike when he gets hit by his own Bijuu Dama in the panel you posted, he was bloody with ink all over his body. The two injuries look nothing alike, at all.

Yes, the Raikage could have damaged him, time went on between the two panels of their fight that we saw in the manga, that is when Hachibi got those injuries, cause it wasn't in the first panel and it definitely wasn't in the last one.

The smoke is clearly rising from where the two fell and no where else.
 

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He had a Raiton shroud on, there's quite a contrast to his durability without it.
Most of his durability is attributed to his body. We've seen the limits of Raiton Armor on its own, and it was pierced by Sasuke's Chidori, though he didn't even manage to harm Ay...I have no reason to believe that this attack would even damage Ay let alone his much more durable father, even without his armor.
 

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Hmm, I'm kind of lost. If someone could answer my question, I'd appreciate it.

We've seen before that a large explosion doesn't equate to a necessarily more powerful explosion. Take Deidara's C0 for example; the crater which formed after that attack was pathetic at best, but it had such a wide radius. I'm sure we can all agree TBB > C0, regardless of the size. So what I'm saying is, just because it's large is there enough evidence to suggest it'd hurt Sandaime? Lets not forget they are paper bombs. Here's but one example;

Get a pebble, and throw it at a brick wall. Will the wall break? No. Now get 1000 pebbles and throw it at a brick wall. Will the wall break? Still no.
 
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