Does Sasuke have Perfect Susanoo?

[shelke]

Stop making stuff up.

The syncing of SM and BM? Slimreaper is dead-on.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

The syncing of SM and BM? Slimreaper is dead-on.

He's right in the regard that Kurama has to let him, but that's a stupid thing to say considering there's no way he'd want an opponent to win against Naruto. Why shouldn't Naruto combine the 2 skills he's learned? That's like restricting MS because Obito was responsible for its activation. I personally think it's stupid to point fingers for "borrowed power" since all chakra is borrowed. I think Slimreaper was mistaking my statement of "spontaneous powerups" for A-pull.

 

[Shura]

You're telling me you don't see a difference between this (top left panel):

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and this?

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I didn't say he was fully healed.

-Scans show there were signs of being healed. Not fully, but the smudge marks on his face reduce.
-Activated PS at the same time as Naruto activated BM.
-He only Kamui'd the Hachibi after he was in Kurama's Avatar.

- His face has the same exact smudge marks as before entering the avatar. Only his clothes were a bit ruined before that.
- You're implying he needs to be inside of it and yet he wasn't inside when he was activating it in the beginning.
- Because the Kyuubi handed him his Chakra when he grabbed his hand and Kakashi was talking about that. He didn't say anything about getting Chakra while in the Kyuubi avatar as he doesn't get any chakra by just being inside of there.

 

[shelke]

He's right in the regard that Kurama has to let him, but that's a stupid thing to say considering there's no way he'd want an opponent to win against Naruto. Why shouldn't Naruto combine the 2 skills he's learned? That's like restricting MS because Obito was responsible for its activation. I personally think it's stupid to point fingers for "borrowed power" since all chakra is borrowed. I think Slimreaper was mistaking my statement of "spontaneous powerups" for A-pull.

I have no idea what you are getting at here. The syncing is not something Naruto learned or achieved. Since the manga doesn't show it, that learning curve doesn't exist.

 

[Touken]

- His face has the same exact smudge marks as before entering the avatar. Only his clothes were a bit ruined before that.
- You're implying he needs to be inside of it and yet he wasn't inside when he was activating it in the beginning.
- Because the Kyuubi handed him his Chakra when he grabbed his hand and Kakashi was talking about that. He didn't say anything about getting Chakra while in the Kyuubi avatar as he doesn't get any chakra by just being inside of there.

-He has many more smudge marks before entering the chakra.
-The fact that Susanoo's wrapped around the Kurama Avatar implies that the Kurama Avatar formed first and then Sasuke's PS. How could he wrap his Susanoo around Naruto's Avatar if his Susanoo formed first?
-Kurama was giving him chakra

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too. Why he didn't think about it? I don't know. Maybe because Kurama was giving only him chakra in that scenario, whereas he was giving chakra to both Kakashi and Gai in the other scenario.

 

[AlphaScythian]

-He has many more smudge marks before entering the chakra.

Just like his shirt. I think it already established kurama doesnt heal any one(but nardo) only restores chakra.

-The fact that Susanoo's wrapped around the Kurama Avatar implies that the Kurama Avatar formed first and then Sasuke's PS. How could he wrap his Susanoo around Naruto's Avatar if his Susanoo formed first?

Better question would be, how one can wrap something around something that isnt there? Do you realize how retarded is this argument?

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that from sasuke's statement b4 kurama was formed and then his question "if it feels the same as madara" It pretty clear sasuke was going to use PS.

-Kurama was giving him chakra

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too. Why he didn't think about it? I don't know. Maybe because Kurama was giving only him chakra in that scenario, whereas he was giving chakra to both Kakashi and Gai in the other scenario.

Note how chakra transfer is displayed by bubbles in your scan whilst we see nothing like this with sasuke.

 

[Turson]

BM wasn't earned in the slightest. that is a textbook gift.

Thats not really true. Skills like chakra arms or TBB - Naruto had to go through training in order to use them.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Thats not really true. Skills like chakra arms or TBB - Naruto had to go through training in order to use them.

Except naruto doesnt really use chakra arms in BM (much at least) and he can make TBB only size of a golf ball w/o kurama's assistance.

 

[Turson]

Except naruto doesnt really use chakra arms in BM (much at least) and he can make TBB only size of a golf ball w/o kurama's assistance.

I dont get you. Naruto cant make any TBB without Kuramas chakra, not only the big ones. But its not like fox is making those TBBs for him, hes the one who handles that chakra.

 

[VongolaX]

The reason why kurama's chakra hade nothing to do with Susanoo, is because of the reaction on Naruto's face.

Naruto would of known if his chakra helped manifest perfect Susanoo, and Hashirama was shocked that Sasuke had Perfect Susanoo.

The chapter even said "Mixing powers," if naruto had something to do with it...

It would have not been mixing powers...

 

[Touken]

Seems as though I rustled the wrong fanbase's jimmies. I'll ask for a mod to close this thread and we'll wait for the manga to clear this up.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I dont get you. Naruto cant make any TBB without Kuramas chakra, not only the big ones. But its not like fox is making those TBBs for him, hes the one who handles that chakra.

Thats different. In BM nardo's body is strong enough to actually hold and maintain small TBB. Bigger ones naruto cant make w/o kurama's avatar, which is kurama itself assisting him. Sure kyubi chakra is implied.