Sage Madara is nothing but a cover up for Hashirama stomp

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Madara was awesome when he came into war, and every time he was mentioned. He was dropping meteors on people, and whipping out Susanoo like it's nothing.

I even forgave that he fought Hashi using a giant ass fox monster that could destroy mountain with ease, I even forgave that he got rinnegan through stealing DNA from his rival and hid in a cave for years.

But then he started Stealing everything Hashirama had, like he wanted to become Hashirama.

Out of all the Uchiha, Itachi is the only one to not steal powers from others. Despite the fact that his fans are annoying as Sasuke fans and he's a poorly written character, I respect the fact that he didn't rely on others to be the character his fanboys orgasm over.



Uchihas are the most entitled motherfkers in the NV.

Sasuke: "gimmie my brother's eyes, I used mine all up in my angst fueled rage"

Obito: "gimmie rinnegan and the tailed beast, I only got kamui working for me and Minato almost killed me"

Madara: "I demand everything that's powerful, I don't care if I gotta steal it from others. No shame makes it fair game"

Itachi: " I've broken abilities and low stamina, but I have enough pride to not steal shit from everyone"
 
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Madara was awesome when he came into war, and every time he was mentioned. He was dropping meteors on people, and whipping out Susanoo like it's nothing.

I even forgave that he fought Hashi using a giant ass fox monster that could destroy mountain with ease, I even forgave that he got rinnegan through stealing DNA from his rival and hid in a cave for years.

But then he started Stealing everything Hashirama had, like he wanted to become Hashirama.

Out of all the Uchiha, Itachi is the only one to not steal powers from others. Despite the fact that his fans are annoying as Sasuke fans and he's a poorly written character, I respect the fact that he didn't rely on others to be the character his fanboys orgasm over.

Uchihas are the most entitled motherfkers in the NV
Exactly U_U
 

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Funny thing is EMS madara > base hashirama... Without SM hashirama wouldn't even survive (assuming madara had killing intent) their VOTE battle.

Good examples;
- it took an entire senju clan, hashirama and tobirama inclusive, 24 hrs just to take down EMS madara
- or, how about when they were kids and both around the same level with hashirama just marginally stronger than a sharingan-less madara? lel.
- or edo madara who easily beat base hashirama without using any rinnegan/mokuton techs.

Stupid thread.

EDIT: people complain about "uchiha's get handed down power because of sharingan", then they forget to factor in the point that people like senju are the only one's who can learn SM, because of their chakra pools and body, giving them an even greater powerup once they unlock it Lol
 
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Funny thing is EMS madara > base hashirama... Without SM hashirama wouldn't even survive (assuming madara had killing intent) their VOTE battle.

Good examples;
- it took an entire senju clan, hashirama and tobirama inclusive, 24 hrs just to take down EMS madara
- or, how about when they were kids and both around the same level with hashirama just marginally stronger than a sharingan-less madara? lel.
- or edo madara who easily beat base hashirama without using any rinnegan/mokuton techs.

Stupid thread.

EDIT: people complain about "uchiha's get handed down power because of sharingan", then they forget to factor in the point that people like senju are the only one's who can learn SM, because of their chakra pools and body, giving them an even greater powerup once they unlock it Lol
Considering Hashirama and Tobirama look well rested I'd say they were barely trying and steal Madara collasped. Anyways it still don't matter because Full Kyuubi + Perfect Susanoo lost to SM Hashirama
 

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yeah , i am serious U_U

currently ,EDO hashirama is not at its maximum strength otherwise Hashirama can still stomps Current Juubi jin Madara

The time when EDO Madara was using Mokuton against Gokages , Naruto and killerbee then PPL was thinking that Madara > Hashirama but latter Hashirama stomped him with his 2 Wood dragons :|

Madara is nothing against Hashirama U_U
so you are really saying that hashirama is stronger then juubi jinchuriki madara? LOL I already knew you are retarded but this tops it all :erm:

One eyed Madara roflstomped edo hashi. Rinnegan Madara would already be enough for alive hashi U_U
 
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using the kyuubi isn't cheating that's basicly saying naruto cheated death

Even if hashirama beat him 3 times with 1 rinnegan eye he will be able to beat hashirama in any form even without sage mode
 

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If you look at Madara's history... You will see that his new found abilities and what not are just a way of coating with his history of failure.

Examples:

Madara vs Hashirama

1st Encounter:

Madara fought Hashirama and Tobirama for a full day and was spared by Hashirama like a weak child.

2nd Encounter:

Madara fought Hashirama 1v1 but this time he thought he would cheat by using the kyuubi. Still lost


3rd Encounter:

Edo Hashirama vs Edo Madara

Hashirama had Madara pinned down and ready to be sealed. Thus showing that Madara had yet again failed against his rival.

Let us not forget that MAdara is currently using 80% Borrowed power and boasting of power that isn't even his power he designed.

Anyways, the point i'm making is NO MATTER What power ups Madara gets. Nothing will erase the fact that he was second rate and always lost to his rival.


Thoughts?
1st encounter:madara fought hashirama,tobirama and all the other senjus,and it took 24 hrs to beat him. In other words,madara would have thrashed hashirama 1 on 1

2nd enounter:kyubi is madara's summoned animal,how is that cheating?. He lost however.

3rd enounter: he sent several chakra rods into hashirama's back,meaning he could have ended him at any time. He didnt use moukton,barely used his rinegan. Hashirama's sage mode expired,and he chose to fight in base when he could have continued using PS.

Hashirama himself has beaten madara only once.

This dosent even matter anymore,madara is the juubi's jin,so whatever hope hashi had has gone.
 

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Hashi>Madara. The only reason Madara has defeated him now is because of his stolen power.
Madara beat hashirama blind and made him his *****. Without using mokuton sage mode or rinnegan. Logic dictates madara wod violate Hashirama with full powers anytime he wants. Not to mention sage mode got fodderised and called pathetic.
As for valley of the end hashirama thought hed killed madara leads me to beleive madara played him the whole time. Since he only had one objective which was gain the other half or rokudos powers. The question then arises if madara could beat hashirama then why didnt he kill him. The answer is if he did people would hunt for madara his ability to enact his plan would be inhibited. Only conclusion let hashirama liblve so he can tell the tale without any suspicion falling on him being alive.
 

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Rods are pointless, when you can't use them. Rofl. He placed the rods, but couldn't overpower Hashirama by using them. Hence why he needed Hashirama in a pathetic state and himself to be at full power again to even have a chance at restrain. =]
Get this dumb speculation somewhere else. Where is it stated he couldnt overpower him?

Its funny how SM hashi got utterly outclassed in taijutsu. Repeatedly impaled with precision by rods in pressure points. 5 out of 5 right where madara wanted.

Such ownage with just taijutsu what if he used rinnegan? lmao.
 

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I think we all now

MS Madara < Hashirama
EMS Madara < Hashirama
EMS Madara + Kyuubi < Hashirama
Edo Madara <= Hashirama
Edo Madara < Edo Hashirama
Rikudu Madara > Hashirama
 

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Get this dumb speculation somewhere else. Where is it stated he couldnt overpower him?

Its funny how SM hashi got utterly outclassed in taijutsu. Repeatedly impaled with precision by rods in pressure points. 5 out of 5 right where madara wanted.

Such ownage with just taijutsu what if he used rinnegan? lmao.
How do you know he used tai jutsu and not deva path's powers to insert the rods? That's right you don't . The fight was off-panel.
Secondly, Madara's plan was to steal Hasi's SM and take on Juubito himself. How was he going to do that without overpowering Hashirama? What was he waiting for?
 

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well i guess that's one way to look at it :yeah:

another view would say : borrowed power or not it doesn't matter, Madara managed to reach a level that allowed him to mob the floor with both Hashi/Tobirama.

some people might argue that his current state happened accidentally/wasn't planed but, so was the revival of the Hokage's in Edo forms which also gives them an advantage and Minato coming back with new powers (half of Kurama).

he might have lost in the encounters you mentioned but, who's the last man standing now ??
 

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How is using Kurama cheating? That's basically like his ninja tool or summoning. Also, if he loses now it'll only be because the good guys have to win and not because he sucks. Current Madara is greater than everyone excluding Sage Of Six Paths.
 

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How do you know he used tai jutsu and not deva path's powers to insert the rods? That's right you don't . The fight was off-panel.
Secondly, Madara's plan was to steal Hasi's SM and take on Juubito himself. How was he going to do that without overpowering Hashirama? What was he waiting for?
Cuz they were at CQC using taijutsu and cuz no deva was used against tobirama.

Rods were placed with intent to siphon hashi's Senjutsu to madara.
When initially placed Hashi still had SM marks, in next scan he didnt. He didnt run out of it either as madara absorbed remaining chakra and got SM himself.

Restraining with rods is done by disrupting one's chakra(as shown vs jiraya) to do so madara has to channel his chakra into it rather then stealing it out. Here is why madara didnt do so, but technically hashirama was owned as soon as rods were there.
 
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