I just realized Alive Madara > Juubito

[Oblivionx]

Alive Madara:
*One panelled all the bijuu at once.
* Solo Tobirama like nothing.
*Basically wiped and killed anything and one in his way.

Juubito:
*Took chapters and chapters just to handle tobirama, minato, and sasuke and naruto.
*Couldn't handle a PF susanoo kyubi.
*Just weak compared to Alive madara.

only one issue...! i mean difference...! minato wasn't with them to save their assess....! NB now realize the importance of fastest shinobi....! OP said it and i testify....!

 

[Flawž]

Juubito takes edo madara or alive madara low difficulty.

 

[Smd]

duh. w/o BS PNJ+TNJ

Madara would have

-been first hokage
-killed hashirama
-killed tobirama
- changed manga
-soloed jubbito

 

[EternalFlame]

Ever heard of a large scale shinra tensie? Madara could use that to break the branch off and use PF susanoo to proctet himself.

Show Madara using Shinra Tensi on a large scale via scans right now.

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Alive Madara:
*One panelled all the bijuu at once.
* Solo Tobirama like nothing.
*Basically wiped and killed anything and one in his way.

Juubito:
*Took chapters and chapters just to handle tobirama, minato, and sasuke and naruto.
*Couldn't handle a PF susanoo kyubi.
*Just weak compared to Alive madara.

Sage Madara > Entire Manga

 

[Retsu]

Juubito softened everyone up, alive Maddy only dominates because everyone was dog tired after the jubito ordeal

 

[AGoodBoy]

Anybody with any type of logic can see alive madara > Juubito. By feats madara destroys the guy. The only thing Juubito has is TBB's and a shinju that couldn't kill a single relevant person.

 

[Retsu]

Anybody with any type of logic can see alive madara > Juubito. By feats madara destroys the guy. The only thing Juubito has is TBB's and a shinju that couldn't kill a single relevant person.

his jutsu neutralizer craps on maddy from great height, the only reason Juubito lost was because of how many ppl he took on at 1 time. Maddy had the advantage of being able to take out the biggest threats 1 by 1. alive maddy would definitely die to juubito.

 

[RikudouMadara]

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Glad to have you! ^_^

Everyone else who disagrees.....

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[AGoodBoy]

his jutsu neutralizer craps on maddy from great height, the only reason Juubito lost was because of how many ppl he took on at 1 time. Maddy had the advantage of being able to take out the biggest threats 1 by 1. alive maddy would definitely die to juubito.

Naruto and sasuke are alot? Lmfao. Madara took on 7 bijuu, 2 jinchuriki and a kage with 1 eye and no juubi.
You'd have to be skipping manga chapters to believe omnyoudon would work when sage mode nullifies it.

 

[Champ]

I think Madara could pull out a win. Senjutsu is Obito weakness, let Madara add that to Perfect Susano'o and do a sword slash. Obito = dead

 

[Retsu]

Naruto and sasuke are alot? Lmfao. Madara took on 7 bijuu, 2 jinchuriki and a kage with 1 eye and no juubi.
You'd have to be skipping manga chapters to believe omnyoudon would work when sage mode nullifies it.

juubito took on pretty much the entire alliance, or did you miss the part where an army yanked the beast from his control.

they also had minato and tobirama playing defense with ftg while tsunade and sakura called in 1/10 of katsuya, and juubito's black orbs would roast Maddy in a 1 on 1, you're kidding yourself if you think he could take on juubito and live. even if the orbs don't outright dissolve his jutsu they can still block it. Maddy just had the advantage of being able to fight the heavy hitters one at a time at his own pace. Juubito fought some of the strongest combinations of characters this manga can offer.

 

[AGoodBoy]

juubito took on pretty much the entire alliance, or did you miss the part where an army yanked the beast from his control.

they also had minato and tobirama playing defense with ftg while tsunade and sakura called in 1/10 of katsuya, and juubito's black orbs would roast Maddy in a 1 on 1, you're kidding yourself if you think he could take on juubito and live. even if the orbs don't outright dissolve his jutsu they can still block it. Maddy just had the advantage of being able to fight the heavy hitters one at a time at his own pace. Juubito fought some of the strongest combinations of characters this manga can offer.

You mean the army that came along after he was already defeated? Naruto and sasuke already beat him by that point, they needed the army to free the bijuu; since naruto didn't want to kill obito which would result in the bijuu dying.
Minato, tobirama, tsunade and all those others were literally fighting the shinju only by that point. That had absolutely nothing to do with obito who was constantly running from PS-Kurama. I suggest you go re-read the manga if you honestly believe Omnyoudon can affect madara. Sasuke was casually tanking it with a V3 susano'o and Cursed seal. Madara has V3 + sage mode + healing.

Anyway, Without naruto's BS the guy would be sliced in half. That's a kill shot.

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[VongolaX]

Shrina tensei is not doing anything to that branch, it's deeply rooted.
(six tailed naruto is a great demonstration)

Also touching it would mean, instant detonation.

 

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Combination of Madara's black rod + Senjutsu Chakra leads Juubito to his death.

 

[Retsu]

You mean the army that came along after he was already defeated? Naruto and sasuke already beat him by that point, they needed the army to free the bijuu; since naruto didn't want to kill obito which would result in the bijuu dying.
Minato, tobirama, tsunade and all those others were literally fighting the shinju only by that point. That had absolutely nothing to do with obito who was constantly running from PS-Kurama. I suggest you go re-read the manga if you honestly believe Omnyoudon can affect madara. Sasuke was casually tanking it with a V3 susano'o and Cursed seal. Madara has V3 + sage mode + healing.

Anyway, Without naruto's BS the guy would be sliced in half. That's a kill shot.

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get real, Nardo would have LOST the tug of war and had his own beast yanked out where it not for the ppl around him helping, gaara took the ichibi and bee took the 8 tails, it was a joint effort to take him out, I don't know why your brain is having so much trouble comprehending such an obvious fact, and that was no friggin kill shot. and Nardo had sasuke and the entire k11 in BM cloaks right before he landed that hit, and kill shot? you need to go re-read the manga because you've basically downplayed everything juubito had to go thru.

And you must be retarded if you can look at this scan and claim it was all Naruto and sasuke who defeated him, juubito was far from finished after that sword hit, it's laughable for you to even suggest such a thing

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LMAO, kill shot my ass, he still had enough fight in him for the entire alliance to get involved.

 

[AGoodBoy]

get real, Nardo would have LOST the tug of war and had his own beast yanked out where it not for the ppl around him helping, gaara took the ichibi and bee took the 8 tails, it was a joint effort to take him out, I don't know why your brain is having so much trouble comprehending such an obvious fact, and that was no friggin kill shot. and Nardo had sasuke and the entire k11 in BM cloaks right before he landed that hit, and kill shot? you need to go re-read the manga because you've basically downplayed everything juubito had to go thru.

And you must be retarded if you can look at this scan and claim it was all Naruto and sasuke who defeated him, juubito was far from finished after that sword hit, it's laughable for you to even suggest such a thing

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LMAO, kill shot my ass, he still had enough fight in him for the entire alliance to get involved.

I just said that naruto and sasuke needed the alliance after already beating obito. The alliance had nothing to do with drawing the chakra out to prepare the tug of war.

1. naruto and sasuke attack, he defends. no one else is fighting him[
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2. they chip away at omnyoudon.[
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3. obito runs from them; no one else is attacking him[
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4. they box him in; no one else is attacking obito.[
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5. obito grabs naruto and sasuke; still no one else around. [
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6. *Take note that omnyoudon is completely useless against senjutsu and doesn't nullify it. IE, only thing obito can do is grab madara[
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7. obito pile drives them; No one else is attacking obito[
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8. they tank the hit without suffering any damage - their armor falls; no one else is attacking obito[
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9. naruto and sasuke go ham; no one else is attacking obito[
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10. obito creates a massive defense[
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11. So, naruto gets K11 to bash at it(something he could just do with shadow clone seeing as K11 used his jutsu)[
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12. K11 create a small gap in the massive shield. Naruto and sasuke plow through the rest; no one else is attacking obito[
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13. naruto yanks obito's chakra out[
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14. Naruto and sasuke yank onto 7/9 of the bijuu chakras[
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15. bee and gaara come in to help with the remaining 2[
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the wound they gave obito heals up and SA then proceeds to join in to yank out the bijuu. All you're doing is running to the end of the fight when the actual battle already ended so you can claim "entire SA defeated obito". Without SA, and with intent to kill,

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, they could've just killed obito instead of going through all the hastle. Obito got owned by 2 teens.


Seriously, did you even reading what I wrote? I said, If naruto didn't do his BS of yanking chakra, they could have killed obito instead. That is, instead of doing tug of war , they could have just killed him along with all the bijuu inside him. which wasn't the plan.
I mean, seriously, try to at least understand what I'm saying without responding with something that has nothing to do with what Isaid.

 

[BlacLord™]

Madara has always been leagues ahead of Obito in terms of skill.

Raw power means little in the face of skill - "An expert with a pebble can still beat a novice with a shuriken."

 

[RikudouMadara]

Madara has always been leagues ahead of Obito in terms of skill.

Raw power means little in the face of skill - "An expert with a pebble can still beat a novice with a shuriken."

Blac wins.... Flawless Victory!

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Bwahahahahahahah!


Obito has


insane speed, black orbs that can tank anything Madara has to offer, overpowered TBBs, a sword that can destroy the world that only lost because he lost the will to fight Naruto, and oh yeah, THE GOD TREE!


insert Madara in Naruto's place.

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Seriously, Juubito one-shots alive Madara with god tree.