[Theory] Rikūdo Sennin's Master Plan

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

much more than that - so6p wants to liberate the world from the terror of jubi, and humanity's chain of hatred.

Indeed, Also, Shinobis are using powers (Chakra) that they stole from Jūbi, if the Sage just allowed the Jūbi to be trapped forever, then it means man is continually sinning for using stolen powers, it would be an illusory peace then, and it's not even a totally illusory peace to begin with since man uses Chakra for war, the cycle of suffering and hatred will never end, the Sage wanted true peace between man and Jūbi, reunite man with the divine, angry as the Jūbi is and its revival posing a threat to the world by acting on that anger and destroying all, the Sage placed his hopes on the future generation and one who will guide the Bijūs and humanity in the righteous path, to quell the God's anger and establish eternal peace, that is Naruto.

 

[Mr Hiru]

He did used it, Hagoromo being the conduit and avatar of his mother's power after Kaguya released all the power inside herself and channeled it through her son: Kamigakari, but in the act of doing so, killed herself in the process.

I'm smelling the technique of "creation" to achieve this effect.

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

much more than that - so6p wants to liberate the world from the terror of jubi, and humanity's chain of hatred.

that i agree since its in the manga, but setting his mom free??

this theory seems to indicate his mom got cursed and because of that, rikudo sealed the juubi and depends on humanity to set her free from her shinigami form. and to that i say NO

rikudo purpose IS to bring peace to the world not set his mom free

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[Byron123]

The infinite Tsukuyomi does not exists, what awaits is the continuation of the cycle of death and rebirth which is Samsara.

You know after rithinking it, it still would be a madness if the sage planned this whole thing only for his mother to be released. Even if the danger of the infinitive tsukuyomi does not exist, he still gave information as to how to revive Earth's most dangerous beast, the Juubi. Who said that the one who would revive the Juubi would definetely go to cast the genjutsu and not just become a living god by taking full control of its divine power? Take for example Madara, right now he has all the power in the world he needs and he can just destroy the tree so he can live forever as a god by the power he has obtained. There is no guarantee that the future jin would try to cast the Tsukuyomi instead of reviving the Juubi merely for his own purposes. Therefore your reasoning here sounds outrageous. You suggest that the sage gave to humanity the most dangerous information that would potentially destroy the whole planet only because he wanted to set his mommy free?!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I'm smelling the technique of "creation" to achieve this effect.

Could be, although what I had in mind was Kamigakari wherein a priest acts as the conduit to channel the Kami's divine power, this is done through the use of rituals and the donning of Kagura Masks (like the Hannya Mask) Kamigakari predated Kagura Rituals wherein the latter was used to honor and give thanks to the gods while former was purely used to channel the divine power and will of a Kami

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Indeed, Also, Shinobis are using powers (Chakra) that they stole from Jūbi, if the Sage just allowed the Jūbi to be trapped forever, then it means man is continually sinning for using stolen powers, it would be an illusory peace then, and it's not even a totally illusory peace to begin with since man uses Chakra for war, the cycle of suffering and hatred will never end, the Sage wanted true peace between man and Jūbi, reunite man with the divine, angry as the Jūbi is and its revival posing a threat to the world by acting on that anger and destroying all, the Sage placed his hopes on the future generation and one who will guide the Bijūs and humanity in the righteous path, to quell the God's anger and establish eternal peace, that is Naruto.

Indeed. Long ago I had a theory that in the end by defeating the jubi permanently, Ninjutsu will no longer exist, now that we know more about the manga - I see the only way to do that is through the life tree which takes back all chakra "afterall that is jubi's purpose" - and the world will go back to its formerself, only difference would be the chain of hatred has ended that humanity had learned its lesson through the ninja world.

I believed that for a long time, however at the moment I am doubtful, as I see some hope for the ninja world thanks to Naruto, but Jubi will not stop like you said until it regains its chakra, so either he is killed "if possible", sealed away again, or befriended (if im not mistaken is yor hypothesis?) so yeah I believe predicting jubi's fate is half the answers.

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

The infinite Tsukuyomi does not exists, what awaits is the continuation of the cycle of death and rebirth which is Samsara.

you're wrong, it does exist, its genjutsu madara did via the juubi's shell in 606

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[Mr Hiru]

Could be, although what I had in mind was Kamigakari wherein a priest acts as the conduit to channel the Kami's divine power, this is done through the use of rituals and the donning of Kagura Masks (like the Hannya Mask) Kamigakari predated Kagura Rituals wherein the latter was used to honor and give thanks to the gods while former was purely used to channel the divine power and will of a Kami

Completely makes sense as well, since they were priests after all. That, and the fact that the one to reveals the secrets of chakra is Hagoromo and not his mother, so it wouldn't make too much sense of her using the technique of creation. A ritual is more suiting for a tribe.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Indeed. Long ago I had a theory that in the end by defeating the jubi permanently, Ninjutsu will no longer exist, now that we know more about the manga - I see the only way to do that is through the life tree which takes back all chakra "afterall that is jubi's purpose" - and the world will go back to its formerself, only difference would be the chain of hatred has ended that humanity had learned its lesson through the ninja world.

I believed that for a long time, however at the moment I am doubtful, as I see some hope for the ninja world thanks to Naruto, but Jubi will not stop like you said until it regains its chakra, so either he is killed "if possible", sealed away again, or befriended (if im not mistaken is yor hypothesis?) so yeah I believe predicting jubi's fate is half the answers.

It is apparent to me that Kishimoto's theme lately that no one is beyond redemption is a clear sign that he wants all his characters, be it mortal or divine, to be united, it is Apocatastasis

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

you're wrong, it does exist, its genjutsu madara did via the juubi's shell in 606

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That is merely Genjutsu, not Infinite Tsukuyomi

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

It is apparent to me that Kishimoto's theme lately that no one is beyond redemption is a clear sign that he wants all his characters, be it mortal or divine, to be united, it is Apocatastasis

Of that I have no doubt

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Completely makes sense as well, since they were priests after all. That, and the fact that the one to reveals the secrets of chakra is Hagoromo and not his mother, so it wouldn't make too much sense of her using the technique of creation. A ritual is more suiting for a tribe.

Indeed I concur

 

[Byron123]

That is merely Genjutsu, not Infinite Tsukuyomi

Lol another reason for not liking your ideology. Except from being always certain, you only answer to those to whom their questions can be answered easily and you always avoid questions that might put you in a corner. And then you wonder why I could possibly lose faith in your theories ( which it hasn't happened but with that attitude might).

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Lol another reason for not liking your ideology. Except from being always certain, you only answer to those to whom their questions can be answered easily and you always avoid questions that might put you in a corner. And then you wonder why I could possibly lose faith in your theories ( which it hasn't happened but with that attitude might).

A Clear sign of his Asian heritage, Sir Derp doesnt say much, unless its worth saying.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Lol another reason for not liking your ideology. Except from being always certain, you only answer to those to whom their questions can be answered easily and you always avoid questions that might put you in a corner. And then you wonder why I could possibly lose faith in your theories ( which it hasn't happened but with that attitude might).

You know after rithinking it, it still would be a madness if the sage planned this whole thing only for his mother to be released. Even if the danger of the infinitive tsukuyomi does not exist, he still gave information as to how to revive Earth's most dangerous beast, the Juubi. Who said that the one who would revive the Juubi would definetely go to cast the genjutsu and not just become a living god by taking full control of its divine power? Take for example Madara, right now he has all the power in the world he needs and he can just destroy the tree so he can live forever as a god by the power he has obtained. There is no guarantee that the future jin would try to cast the Tsukuyomi instead of reviving the Juubi merely for his own purposes. Therefore your reasoning here sounds outrageous. You suggest that the sage gave to humanity the most dangerous information that would potentially destroy the whole planet only because he wanted to set his mommy free?!

You're thinking DBZ, you are forgetting the fact that the Elder Son and his descendants like Madara were also trying to achieve peace but through power, no my friend, they are not blood-thirsty characters like Hidan, the Sage knew full well the temperament and intentions of the Elder Son, therefore only the course of action they will take would be to try and use Jūbi (Power) to achieve peace which Madara is trying to do now.

 

[The Sach]

Why introduce the Shinju backstory of how humanity stole the Tree's power if the author does not intend to make a resolution of this past transgression?

^This thought was the one I actually found interesting. Yes you are right from my point of view, but Derp will you please elaborate your this point,

So probably even Madara himself will be surprised that the Flower contains more than the Eye, but the reborn/new One-Eyed God itself.

Did you meant Shinju here, or are trying to point at something different?
Anyways it was really plausible theory, the way you combined that Kaguya thing with Uchiha tablet, this theory deserves appreciation.

 

[Byron123]

A Clear sign of his Asian heritage, Sir Derp doesnt say much, unless its worth saying.

Lol a clear sign of fear I would say. Don't asnwer to questions you can't till the ones that pose them fed up with you and stop XD He even closed his thread about his uzumaki ideas only so it can remain "purified" in this period by the danger the non believers pose yet I'm sure that if his theories come to fruition, then these theories will open once again "inexplicably" only for the creator to get glorified.

You have allowed yourself like others to fall prey to Kishimoto's obfuscations, I hope that you free yourself from the dark wood error.

Lol do I need to tell more? XD

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

A Clear sign of his Asian heritage, Sir Derp doesnt say much, unless its worth saying.

When I see a sloppy point of contention I rarely bother replying to it.

 

[Byron123]

You're thinking DBZ, you are forgetting the fact that the Elder Son and his descendants like Madara were also trying to achieve peace but through power, no my friend, they are not blood-thirsty characters like Hidan, the Sage knew full well the temperament and intentions of the Elder Son, therefore only the course of action they will take would be to try and use Jūbi (Power) to achieve peace which Madara is trying to do now.

Lol I haven't watched DBZ in the first place to think like that. Besides, does what you said sound logical to you? So you're saying that because his two kids were kind, so they would be everyone that derive from them? That's completely absurd! So if for example you're born as a saint, can't your great grand kid after a bad teaching turned into an immoral human, caring for only himself?

 

[Byron123]

When I see a sloppy point of contention I rarely bother replying to it.

touche but some times this urge is irresistable.