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1. If kankuro has the sasori puppet (which i think it is likely he does) it doesnt have sasoris chakra, but that doesn't mean it isnt badass, as you could have seen from sasoris battle when he used himself(the puppet which he was inside of for a long time)
2. When konan said that it would have been more effective just to use god realm i think it could easily have been foreshadowing of pains defeat (will check for somewhat similar foreshadowings in the past and in this battle)
3. All ninjas can sense other (peoples) chakra. I think this is quite obvious but i think some people dont realize this.
One example: (there are more of course but this one is fresh in my memory cause of so much talk about it or it being given as an example for other stuff) when sm naruto returned to konoha he couldnt sense kakshis chakra. How would he know which chakra is kakashis? Well cause he sensed it before.)
4. Uchicha madara is and isnt the final villain:
I have a theory (more like fanfiction) about this and will post it when i have the time and am not to lazy and dont have other things to do
all ninja may be able to sense chakra to a degree, but sage mode gave naruto the ability to sense the chakra to the point he could tell the diffrence not because he sensed it before.
 

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omg dude get real kakashi is a great ninja an all but sasuke's lightning jutsu is alot better than kakashi's lol .. u say kakashi has lightning dogs.... ok.... sasuke has that god like move, that strikes lightning from the sky... or did your penut brain forget that when sasuke was fighting itachi/// an kakashi might have been a jonin before he got the sharingan but he would never of gotten this far without it.
sasuke just directed lightning using his chakra. and that still isnt a chidori. so he still hasnt surpassed kakashi with it. and you might say that its a more powerful jutsu that kakashi cant use but then you can say sasuke cant use his sharingan to do Kamui. yeah sasuke can use susanoo and amaterasu but who cares if kakashi can send it somewhere else with sasuke along with it. so kakashi (in those respects) is stronger than sasuke, and can control the sharingan better than him.

and what do you mean kakashi would not have gotten far without it?
he adapted himself to using it and only uses it against a very tough opponent. you have heard him tell zabuza that no opponent has every seen his sharingan twice. only zabuza.
kakashi is more than capable of fighting without it(unlike someone else in the manga)
remember kakashi was made a chunin at age 6. and itachi grauated the academy at age 7(we all know how powerful itachi was) it wasnt until itachi activated his sharingan till itachi started rocketing through the ranks. whereas kakashi's rise through the ranks BEFORE he got the sharingan was called a "meteoric rise". kakashi's father was considered as great as or greater than the legendary sannin. i think it is safe to say that kakashi would have achieved as great a status without the sharingan.

oh and i think i can point out that sasuke couldnt pass the chunin exams even with the sharingan.
 

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sasuke just directed lightning using his chakra. and that still isnt a chidori. so he still hasnt surpassed kakashi with it. and you might say that its a more powerful jutsu that kakashi cant use but then you can say sasuke cant use his sharingan to do Kamui. yeah sasuke can use susanoo and amaterasu but who cares if kakashi can send it somewhere else with sasuke along with it. so kakashi (in those respects) is stronger than sasuke, and can control the sharingan better than him.

and what do you mean kakashi would not have gotten far without it?
he adapted himself to using it and only uses it against a very tough opponent. you have heard him tell zabuza that no opponent has every seen his sharingan twice. only zabuza.
kakashi is more than capable of fighting without it(unlike someone else in the manga)
remember kakashi was made a chunin at age 6. and itachi grauated the academy at age 7(we all know how powerful itachi was) it wasnt until itachi activated his sharingan till itachi started rocketing through the ranks. whereas kakashi's rise through the ranks BEFORE he got the sharingan was called a "meteoric rise". kakashi's father was considered as great as or greater than the legendary sannin. i think it is safe to say that kakashi would have achieved as great a status without the sharingan.

oh and i think i can point out that sasuke couldnt pass the chunin exams even with the sharingan.
dude if sasuke an kakashi fought rite now kakashi would lose ... point blank. kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to beat sasuke.
 
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this is what Ive been thinking.

danzo will be stripped of holkage title. Village will know about the sharigan and uchita killing. Danzo will remove tech on the 5th. danzo got the title by taking over that guy "just look at the way he talked after about the 3rd. and also to keep the title he had to impress the other kages. yes danzo has the 5th under a jujitsu. how during the pain fight it doesnt show danzo who was planning to kill her also doesnt show the 5th. what shes standing there panting then in a coma. also how many people would look at her when narutos beating down pain in ways no one in the village has seen since the 4th.

also we have seen back stories on almost every one but the 4th and guy sense and narutos mom. who taught him and her. kakashis rival also how did he becomes kakashis rival. i guess before obito died they had started to become rivals maybe because there teachers where rivals.
 
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dude if sasuke an kakashi fought rite now kakashi would lose ... point blank. kakashi doesn't have enough chakra to beat sasuke.
are you sure about that. here is an example fight

sasuke: hmmf i will end this quick......amaterasu
kakashi:.......kamui
sasuke: fu*k
gone
the end.
remember kakashi can now use 6 lightning blades a day now and that uses alot of chakra and he can use kamui 3-4 times a day.

here is another example fight with sasuke knowing kakashis jutsu

sasuke: i will not let you beat me so quickly......susanoo
kakashi: ..... kamui
sasuke: it wont wo....
gone
end


lol they wont even need to put on battle music in the anime.

now before you say naruto wont be able to beat him well

naruto: kage bushin no jutsu
apears all around kakashi
kakashi: oh shi...
naruto sneaks a few clones away to get sage chakra
naruto: im over here
naruto: no here
kakashi: looks like i have to find the real one the hard way
a short fight then some clones disapear
naruto apears in sage mode in two groups of 3 on either side with a rasenshuriken in either hand
kakashi: i wont be able to dodge at this range
naruto: rasenshuriken
throws one at kakashi
kakashi jumps narrowly avoiding it
kakashi: wait one....then
turns head to see rasenshuriken head to him
end
 
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are you sure about that. here is an example fight

sasuke: hmmf i will end this quick......amaterasu
kakashi:.......kamui
sasuke: fu*k
gone
the end.
remember kakashi can now use 6 lightning blades a day now and that uses alot of chakra and he can use kamui 3-4 times a day.

here is another example fight with sasuke knowing kakashis jutsu

sasuke: i will not let you beat me so quickly......susanoo
kakashi: ..... kamui
sasuke: it wont wo....
gone
end


lol they wont even need to put on battle music in the anime.

now before you say naruto wont be able to beat him well

naruto: kage bushin no jutsu
apears all around kakashi
kakashi: oh shi...
naruto sneaks a few clones away to get sage chakra
naruto: im over here
naruto: no here
kakashi: looks like i have to find the real one the hard way
a short fight then some clones disapear
naruto apears in sage mode in two groups of 3 on either side with a rasenshuriken in either hand
kakashi: i wont be able to dodge at this range
naruto: rasenshuriken
throws one at kakashi
kakashi jumps narrowly avoiding it
kakashi: wait one....then
turns head to see rasenshuriken head to him
end
your not being realistic me an you both know that kakashi being able to hit sasuke with that move is like sasuke trying to hit raikage with ameratsu... an i know your going to say ameratsu is a short range move an kakashi used his on deidara.... but.... kakashi can't follow you with that move especially if your moving at hi speeds in upredictable patterns.

honestly dude your my worst enemy on this forum now jus because you know that kakashi looks at naruto an see's sasuke // an i quote from kakashi " Your always right there with him, getting stronger" those aren't the exact words but he was referring to naruto and sasuke. kakashi knows he cant beat naruto now so its only logical to know he cant beat sasuke... i mean common man your trying to argue with me about a real sharingan user a Uchiha who has both of his sharingans/// as opposed to a shinobi who's not of uchiha blood an only has one ms -_- really kakashi cant beat sasuke uchiha's double ms with one ms an ion care how you word it dude kakashi would have more of a chance fighting danzo than trying to fight on par with one sharingan against sasuke. hahah REALLY HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN WHAT HAPPEN WHEN KAKASHI TRYED ITACHI.... HE GOT COUGHT IN TYSUKYOMI/// AND WAS STABBED REPEATEDLY LIKE A PIG/// SO WAT MAKES YOU THINK SASUKE WONT PUT HIM BACK IN TSYUKYOMI???? IDIOT
 

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your not being realistic me an you both know that kakashi being able to hit sasuke with that move is like sasuke trying to hit raikage with ameratsu... an i know your going to say ameratsu is a short range move an kakashi used his on deidara.... but.... kakashi can't follow you with that move especially if your moving at hi speeds in upredictable patterns.

honestly dude your my worst enemy on this forum now jus because you know that kakashi looks at naruto an see's sasuke // an i quote from kakashi " Your always right there with him, getting stronger" those aren't the exact words but he was referring to naruto and sasuke. kakashi knows he cant beat naruto now so its only logical to know he cant beat sasuke... i mean common man your trying to argue with me about a real sharingan user a Uchiha who has both of his sharingans/// as opposed to a shinobi who's not of uchiha blood an only has one ms -_- really kakashi cant beat sasuke uchiha's double ms with one ms an ion care how you word it dude kakashi would have more of a chance fighting danzo than trying to fight on par with one sharingan against sasuke. hahah REALLY HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN WHAT HAPPEN WHEN KAKASHI TRYED ITACHI.... HE GOT COUGHT IN TYSUKYOMI/// AND WAS STABBED REPEATEDLY LIKE A PIG/// SO WAT MAKES YOU THINK SASUKE WONT PUT HIM BACK IN TSYUKYOMI???? IDIOT
seriously dude... calm down
 

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your not being realistic me an you both know that kakashi being able to hit sasuke with that move is like sasuke trying to hit raikage with ameratsu... an i know your going to say ameratsu is a short range move an kakashi used his on deidara.... but.... kakashi can't follow you with that move especially if your moving at hi speeds in upredictable patterns.

honestly dude your my worst enemy on this forum now jus because you know that kakashi looks at naruto an see's sasuke // an i quote from kakashi " Your always right there with him, getting stronger" those aren't the exact words but he was referring to naruto and sasuke. kakashi knows he cant beat naruto now so its only logical to know he cant beat sasuke... i mean common man your trying to argue with me about a real sharingan user a Uchiha who has both of his sharingans/// as opposed to a shinobi who's not of uchiha blood an only has one ms -_- really kakashi cant beat sasuke uchiha's double ms with one ms an ion care how you word it dude kakashi would have more of a chance fighting danzo than trying to fight on par with one sharingan against sasuke. hahah REALLY HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN WHAT HAPPEN WHEN KAKASHI TRYED ITACHI.... HE GOT COUGHT IN TYSUKYOMI/// AND WAS STABBED REPEATEDLY LIKE A PIG/// SO WAT MAKES YOU THINK SASUKE WONT PUT HIM BACK IN TSYUKYOMI???? IDIOT
Good one.
But calm down dude.

Shikaku even said when one enters sage mode, they are totally at different level. So, i don't think Kakashi will be able to beat Naruto anymore. Back at the time when Naruto finished his incomplete FRS, even Kakashi said "Naruto, you are strong enough to stand side by side with me or even surpassing". Now he has already Sage mode, so there no way Kakashi will beat Naruto. And one more thing, Naruto no longer adresses Kakashi 'Sensei'.
 

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your not being realistic me an you both know that kakashi being able to hit sasuke with that move is like sasuke trying to hit raikage with ameratsu... an i know your going to say ameratsu is a short range move an kakashi used his on deidara.... but.... kakashi can't follow you with that move especially if your moving at hi speeds in upredictable patterns.

honestly dude your my worst enemy on this forum now jus because you know that kakashi looks at naruto an see's sasuke // an i quote from kakashi " Your always right there with him, getting stronger" those aren't the exact words but he was referring to naruto and sasuke. kakashi knows he cant beat naruto now so its only logical to know he cant beat sasuke... i mean common man your trying to argue with me about a real sharingan user a Uchiha who has both of his sharingans/// as opposed to a shinobi who's not of uchiha blood an only has one ms -_- really kakashi cant beat sasuke uchiha's double ms with one ms an ion care how you word it dude kakashi would have more of a chance fighting danzo than trying to fight on par with one sharingan against sasuke. hahah REALLY HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN WHAT HAPPEN WHEN KAKASHI TRYED ITACHI.... HE GOT COUGHT IN TYSUKYOMI/// AND WAS STABBED REPEATEDLY LIKE A PIG/// SO WAT MAKES YOU THINK SASUKE WONT PUT HIM BACK IN TSYUKYOMI???? IDIOT
kakashi was testing his sharingan. he wanted to see if he was strong enough with it to fight back MS genjutsu. itachi agreed kakashi could fight it so he put him in tsukoyomi.
remember what happened last time itachi and kakashi fought? although itachi said he couldnt use tsukoyomi he said that kakashi's timing was perfect. even with the sharingan itachi couldnt see kakashi's shadow clone. and itachi was always said to have been a true heir of the sharingan. all that was said about sasukes was that his sharingan was keener. meaning it will surpass itachis eventually. sasuke still isnt itachi's level.

oh and you think kakashi couldnt follow sasuke if he moves fast in unpredicatble way? what is it that the sharingan does? oh yeah predicts movement. it doesnt matter how unorthodox you move it will see it.

oh and look at what kakashi said again. he does say they are both getting stronger yes. but we know that nauto is more powerful than sasuke. naruto is on a whole new level atm. sasuke is almost at kage level. i know he is fighting all the kage but atm he has only fought one then pulled out his trump card as a distraction to get away from 2. and sasuke although he can take what the raikage dished out, sasuke could not beat him. in fact he almost got killed. sasuke is powerful yeah but not that powerful.
you have a look at sasukes chidori and most of us know that kakashi's lightning blade is more powerful than chidori. also kakashi does have a sharingan so my theory is that kakashi can beat the raikage. sasuke managed to just get through the raikages armor a little. if kakashi did that it would have gotten through. not only that but kakashi is smarter, faster, and has better jutsu(imo).

and thank you about me being your worst enemy :)
 

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kakashi was testing his sharingan. he wanted to see if he was strong enough with it to fight back MS genjutsu. itachi agreed kakashi could fight it so he put him in tsukoyomi.
remember what happened last time itachi and kakashi fought? although itachi said he couldnt use tsukoyomi he said that kakashi's timing was perfect. even with the sharingan itachi couldnt see kakashi's shadow clone. and itachi was always said to have been a true heir of the sharingan. all that was said about sasukes was that his sharingan was keener. meaning it will surpass itachis eventually. sasuke still isnt itachi's level.

oh and you think kakashi couldnt follow sasuke if he moves fast in unpredicatble way? what is it that the sharingan does? oh yeah predicts movement. it doesnt matter how unorthodox you move it will see it.

oh and look at what kakashi said again. he does say they are both getting stronger yes. but we know that nauto is more powerful than sasuke. naruto is on a whole new level atm. sasuke is almost at kage level. i know he is fighting all the kage but atm he has only fought one then pulled out his trump card as a distraction to get away from 2. and sasuke although he can take what the raikage dished out, sasuke could not beat him. in fact he almost got killed. sasuke is powerful yeah but not that powerful.
you have a look at sasukes chidori and most of us know that kakashi's lightning blade is more powerful than chidori. also kakashi does have a sharingan so my theory is that kakashi can beat the raikage. sasuke managed to just get through the raikages armor a little. if kakashi did that it would have gotten through. not only that but kakashi is smarter, faster, and has better jutsu(imo).

and thank you about me being your worst enemy :)
Yo to everyone telling me to calm down stop making it look like im angry lol im not me an a thousand years is jus haven a great debate... im not angry or mad infact he's the coolest one on the forum in my opinion for arguing with me an being able to keep his composure jus like me without using any profanity... so to everyone who told me to calm down uhh yall calm down, an to my rival sasuke would wipe the floor with kakashi lol an he's gonna wipe the floor with naruto soon after haha.

o but u do got me on one thing lol naruto uzumaki is the strongest rite now next to madara not sasuke.
 

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Ive always wondered why rasenshuriken isnt able to explode and devastate the land like it did in its original uses, when the pain that steals souls died yeah rasenshuriken damaged the land but the first rasenshuriken naruto used would have killed all the bodies at once if it exploded like it did when kakuzu died and it would be stupid if that exploding effext can only be obtained when its used like rasengan, naruto should be able to caontrol whether it explodes or not by the way he makes it, im hoping that is the case tho.Someone had a theory about naruto getting a sword from killerbee but i dont think a sword is his style, it suits sasuke but not naruto imo, kunais are basic but kakashi and itachi dont have a problem using them, a kunai suits naruto, im hoping he learns thunder god requiering his father's kunai in some cases or just use his fathers special kunai as a memento, he wouldnt throw them but like keep one in his sleve at the very least to use at close range, it looks like a good sword counter to me the way its shaped or naruto will get a special short blade like the one shikamaru uses.:hypertobi:
 
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kakashi was testing his sharingan. he wanted to see if he was strong enough with it to fight back MS genjutsu. itachi agreed kakashi could fight it so he put him in tsukoyomi.
remember what happened last time itachi and kakashi fought? although itachi said he couldnt use tsukoyomi he said that kakashi's timing was perfect. even with the sharingan itachi couldnt see kakashi's shadow clone. and itachi was always said to have been a true heir of the sharingan. all that was said about sasukes was that his sharingan was keener. meaning it will surpass itachis eventually. sasuke still isnt itachi's level.

oh and you think kakashi couldnt follow sasuke if he moves fast in unpredicatble way? what is it that the sharingan does? oh yeah predicts movement. it doesnt matter how unorthodox you move it will see it.

oh and look at what kakashi said again. he does say they are both getting stronger yes. but we know that nauto is more powerful than sasuke. naruto is on a whole new level atm. sasuke is almost at kage level. i know he is fighting all the kage but atm he has only fought one then pulled out his trump card as a distraction to get away from 2. and sasuke although he can take what the raikage dished out, sasuke could not beat him. in fact he almost got killed. sasuke is powerful yeah but not that powerful.
you have a look at sasukes chidori and most of us know that kakashi's lightning blade is more powerful than chidori. also kakashi does have a sharingan so my theory is that kakashi can beat the raikage. sasuke managed to just get through the raikages armor a little. if kakashi did that it would have gotten through. not only that but kakashi is smarter, faster, and has better jutsu(imo).

and thank you about me being your worst enemy :)



dude i agree with u in all the ways and in this case i join ur side ......you are right ....... even though sasuke has double ms,, he doesnt have the experience as kakashi...and kakashi is more brainy and faster than sasuke........so kakashi would beat sasuke in a battle even right now...........



Yo to everyone telling me to calm down stop making it look like im angry lol im not me an a thousand years is jus haven a great debate... im not angry or mad infact he's the coolest one on the forum in my opinion for arguing with me an being able to keep his composure jus like me without using any profanity... so to everyone who told me to calm down uhh yall calm down, an to my rival sasuke would wipe the floor with kakashi lol an he's gonna wipe the floor with naruto soon after haha.

o but u do got me on one thing lol naruto uzumaki is the strongest rite now next to madara not sasuke.

and for u dude ,,,,kakashi can easily defeat sasuke even right now ............. there is no chance for sasuke to use chidori techs against kakashi who uses lightning blade which more effective than chidori and he can use kamui to beat sasuke...............so i say
SASUKE<KAKASHI<NARUTO..............
 
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Sasuke or Naruto vs. Kakashi, sasuke has no real advantage cuz kakashi has the best mangekyo imo until we c madara's, lightning dosent have much effect as he can easily counter then kakashi is good with water techs so kakashi has advantage in that fight due to experience and he seems to be able to fight almost at itachis lvl as we saw when itachi's duplicate was owned by a shadow clone.A fight between naruto and kakashi could go either way as kakashi knows naruto is a fighter who uses a feint evry now and again so that evens the playing feild but put sage mode into the mix and its game over the frog katas are deadly and as seen with jiraya there is insane speed as well so i dont think kamui will be an option.:hypertobi:
 
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Sasuke or Naruto vs. Kakashi, sasuke has no real advantage cuz kakashi has the best mangekyo imo until we c madara's, lightning dosent have much effect as he can easily counter then kakashi is good with water techs so kakashi has advantage in that fight due to experience and he seems to be able to fight almost at itachis lvl as we saw when itachi's duplicate was owned by a shadow clone.A fight between naruto and kakashi could go either way as kakashi knows naruto is a fighter who uses a feint evry now and again so that evens the playing feild but put sage mode into the mix and its game over the frog katas are deadly and as seen with jiraya there is insane speed as well so i dont think kamui will be an option.:hypertobi:

you are right dude........if there is a battle between sasuke and kakashi ,,kakashi would beat him cuz he has copied more than 1000 jutsus and we dont know what are the jutsus ........what if he had copied the raikage's lightning armor technique as kakashi has lightning natured chakra(just my thought)..........so it would be difficult for sasuke in all the ways.......
 

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you are right dude........if there is a battle between sasuke and kakashi ,,kakashi would beat him cuz he has copied more than 1000 jutsus and we dont know what are the jutsus ........what if he had copied the raikage's lightning armor technique as kakashi has lightning natured chakra(just my thought)..........so it would be difficult for sasuke in all the ways.......
hahah yea ok guys kakashi is better than sasuke because of his black hole tech. and his experience ok ... lol i still dont believe kakashi would win in a fight against sasuke but watever. either way sasuke will get if not the same tech as kakashi then a better version of it an start sealing ninjas away kinda like how itachi's susano was with that sword equipped.

o an kydo your rite a sword is not naruto style but wouldnt it be awsome if he learned how to fight with one lol and still knew of his fathers kunai tech?? Honestly i believe naruto will get a sword jus because of that pic with him an sasuke back to back with there swords in hand.
 

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you are right dude........if there is a battle between sasuke and kakashi ,,kakashi would beat him cuz he has copied more than 1000 jutsus and we dont know what are the jutsus ........what if he had copied the raikage's lightning armor technique as kakashi has lightning natured chakra(just my thought)..........so it would be difficult for sasuke in all the ways.......
kakashi wouldn't be able to use that lightning armor jutsu because it requires alots of chackra.
 
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