[Discussion] Doflamingo's next challenge
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akimofnevis
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I honestly don't see Luffy defeating doffy but I can see hitting doffy straight in the face to piss him off
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Too early to think about such things . The ending of this arc could go many ways
How about Sanji getting stomped? Come back to me when Luffy is capable of stomping Sanji.
Luffy can't stomp Sanji but Sanji had no intel on Dofla's abilities. The only thing Sanji knew was that he couldn't move. If he had full intel on Mingo's abilities he would've fared much much better.
Intel can only take you so far when you are outclassed like Sanji was. When your kicks get blocked by a feather coat effortlessly, it means you were simply outclassed in Haki.
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Sanji would probably give Doflamingo low diff with intel. Not much of a difference.
Intel takes you a long way when your enemy is someone who can control you like a puppet and cut your limbs with just a flick of his finger. And i think it should be a given that Dofla's Haki>Sanji's. Lets say it was Luffy's Elephant gun instead. It would've tore his coat a new one. Not to mention we haven't seen the M3's High-end Dressrosa moves yet. Dressrosa is like the enies-lobby of Post-Skip. My point is don't underrestimate Luffy. Luffy's enemy at enies-lobby had 4000 Doriki whereas Zoro and Sanji had 2200 and 2180 respectively. They're all close in strength yet Luffy was able to beat someone with 4000 Doriki.
People act like it's impossible for Luffy to beat the arc villain (not like he's been doing it since 1997
)With full intel and a bit of plot, an enraged Luffy will mop the floor with Doflamingo's candy ass. When Luffy said "i'm gonna kick Mingo's ass" Dofla's fate was sealed.
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Well considering the situation and setting is completely different I still think Luffy has a high chance of winning, not to mention Sanji had absolutely no info on Doflamingo. Also Luffy is stronger than Sanji so your point is completely annulled the moment you try to compare them in a fighting situation.
Sanji was stomed by Blueno yet Luffy stomped him we don't know exactly how strong Luffy is as of yet and I've said it before I wouldn't be surprised if Doflamingo was injured before fighting Luffy.
Oh nice try acting tough over the internet 'come back to me' wow you do realise you sound like a douche and just because you have an opinion it doesn't necessarily make it a correct one. Come back when you've grown up kid.
akimofnevis
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Doffy is the strongest villain Luffy has faced this far and Luffy chances if winning is not so high, I don't see him winning without help, he's not even aware of doffy's powersIntel takes you a long way when your enemy is someone who can control you like a puppet and cut your limbs with just a flick of his finger. And i think it should be a given that Dofla's Haki>Sanji's. Lets say it was Luffy's Elephant gun instead. It would've tore his coat a new one. Not to mention we haven't seen the M3's High-end Dressrosa moves yet. Dressrosa is like the enies-lobby of Post-Skip. My point is don't underrestimate Luffy. Luffy's enemy at enies-lobby had 4000 Doriki whereas Zoro and Sanji had 2200 and 2180 respectively. They're all close in strength yet Luffy was able to beat someone with 4000 Doriki.
People act like it's impossible for Luffy to beat the arc villain (not like he's been doing it since 1997
With full intel and a bit of plot, an enraged Luffy will mop the floor with Doflamingo's candy ass. When Luffy said "i'm gonna kick Mingo's ass" Dofla's fate was sealed.
No chance period read what else I wrote previously
First of all....relax a bit. Second of all no the statement isn't null, because the gap between Sanji and Luffy isnt so big that someone Sanji gets destroyed by, gets beaten by Luffy. We have seen DD take out Smoker, Law, Sanji really casually and while its true Luffy hasn't shown everything he's got, he's shown much more than DD, DD has yet to take a fight serious and he's been stomping M3 level opponents left and right. This will have to be a repeat of Crocs fight...meaning a whole lot of plot.
The only issue is that Doflamingo has yet to even take anything seriously. Just as you say the SH's havent shown everything Doflamingo has shown even less. The doflamingo that fought Sanji didnt even look like he was trying, same with when he fought Law he was talking to Diamante at the same time ffs. From DD's casual feats so far he is ahead of Luffy's best post skip feats, imagine when he goes all out. There will be a lot of plot involved here just like in alabasta.Intel takes you a long way when your enemy is someone who can control you like a puppet and cut your limbs with just a flick of his finger. And i think it should be a given that Dofla's Haki>Sanji's. Lets say it was Luffy's Elephant gun instead. It would've tore his coat a new one. Not to mention we haven't seen the M3's High-end Dressrosa moves yet. Dressrosa is like the enies-lobby of Post-Skip. My point is don't underrestimate Luffy. Luffy's enemy at enies-lobby had 4000 Doriki whereas Zoro and Sanji had 2200 and 2180 respectively. They're all close in strength yet Luffy was able to beat someone with 4000 Doriki.
People act like it's impossible for Luffy to beat the arc villain (not like he's been doing it since 1997
With full intel and a bit of plot, an enraged Luffy will mop the floor with Doflamingo's candy ass. When Luffy said "i'm gonna kick Mingo's ass" Dofla's fate was sealed.
There will be plot involved but nonetheless Luffy will beat DD. This is similar to enies lobby. People said Luffy stood no chance against Lucci but then Luffy went Gears and beat him. He'll probably show a new power which will even the odds a bit. The Straw Hats just came from a timeskip. That 2 years of training would be useless if Luffy loses to DD. Not to mention unless Luffy beats the arc villain the series wont progress.
I wouldn't say this is like Lucci vs Luffy, this is gonna be closer to Croc vs Luffy. Meaning Luffy has no business winning but will win anyways. I think Luffy will need something he hasn't shown before just to avoid getting stomped....... not to win. Cause right now he would lose really badly. Right now its Luffy showing 85% of his power vs DD barely showing anything. And DD would abuse him based off of this. 100% Luffy vs Serious DD will not shorten the gap by much, but it might allow Luffy to hang in there for a bit longer, this is where plot comes in and saves the day for Luffy.
akimofnevis
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Luffy will get a lot of help because he can't beat doffy alone
Doffy is on another level, he's the strongest warlord so far
Luffy will get help from the straw hats and from fujitora most likely to defeat doffy
akimofnevis
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No underestimation taking place, Doffy has defeated smoker, law, sanji, the samurai that's with Luffy. He was unscratched at marinefold and took down a few opponents . He made Moria run for his life. Doffy is just strong as heck and I don't see Luffy going toe to toe with this guy