Elemental Jutsu difficulty

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Which elements do you think is hardest and easiest to learn?
If I will rank them from hardest to easiest this will be the order

Wind= According to Kakashi it is rarest element in the manga, there are very few wind users and even fewer those who specialize on them. Even Temari had to use a medium just to perform his wind jutsus. Because of it's intangible nature, getting a grasp of it's shape is a hell. Naruto had to multiply his training time through shadow clones just to learn how to mold wind chakra.

Lightning= most elemental jutsus can be performed by using the environment instead of molding one's own chakra to artificially create the element, but lightning is not something you cannot tap to anytime you want unlike earth, wind, and water. Sasuke had to make it rain just to harness the power of true lightning. This is why most lightning users molds lightning on their own, making Raiton probably the most taxing element in chakra reserves. Kakashi and Sasuke on part 1 was very limited on their use of Chidori, the Raikage's relied on their Bijuu level chkra pool to keep their Raiton armor on.

Fire= not as hard as wind and lightning to learn, but it's accessibility means that the user must mold his chakra to create fire which is more taxing than using the environment as medium to perform jutsus. Fire is probably the hardest element to shape though. Unlike other elements that have been used for different purposes, fire was always just been used up for attack and to straight up burn the enemy. The most complicated shape we've seen with fire are Madara's and Sasuke's fire dragons.

Water=One of the most abundant element in the series. Many characters have water as their secondary element. It is easy to shape and accessible in many places and even without water source, water has been shown to be easy to mold. Probably because our bodies are 70% water? Maybe.

Earth=everywhere you go, there is earth. Earth is the most tangible element because of it's solid properties, it's just like chakra flow extending to an object. Almost all named character has earth as their 2nd element. Actually most of the Shinobi Alliance probably knows atleast 1 doton jutsu now, after Kitsuchi taught them earth wall to try and stop Juubi's bijuudama. The army didn't need to practice or train to perform the jutsu, they just learned the hand signs and they have successfully pulled off the jutsu.
 
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They all take a long time. It was stated in the manga that to master elemental affinity..it is a training period that takes a few years.

Naruto "Splitting a Leaf with wind chakra" was supposed to take the average person 6 months. But he accomplished it within a few hours.
 

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wind is the rarest to find but I think earth might be the hardest to mold all creations we have seen that were made from earth style are very badly shaped sasukes lightning molded to the shape of a very detailed dragon and lets not get on kakashi but besides kakashis earth wall all earth made creations are badly shaped and have very little detail
 

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They all take a long time. It was stated in the manga that to master elemental affinity..it is a training period that takes a few years.

Naruto "Splitting a Leaf with wind chakra" was supposed to take the average person 6 months. But he accomplished it within a few hours.
But K11 and shinobi alliance didn't take a second try to perform earth wall.
 

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But K11 and shinobi alliance didn't take a second try to perform earth wall.
It was stated that a regular shinobi has at most 2-3 elemental affinities. The rest of what the anime potrays is simply BS. Heck, the anime showed kakashi using all the elements even though he personally stated he only had 3.

The Shinobi alliance probrably showed Earth Elemental based shinobi who could pull it off. Remember , the shinobi in the alliance are not genin and novices. They are decently trained Chunnin and above ninjas. with the exeption of Naruto Of course.

Note: It was also stated that a simple technique that anyone could perform(with earth based affinity) was requested. It was even admitted that it would lack protective power.

Another Note: You probrably intepretated the manga wrongly. Elemental Affinity and chakra maniuplation..it is one of the 2 basic things that a shinobi requires. A shinobi requires at least one..and it is rare for one not to use a technique not affliated with a elemental affinity too.

Next Edit: I don't think the manga showed Konoha 11 doing the earth wall? Manga Page if you care to show?
 
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You also keep talking about using the enviroment existing element to harness the techniques and if you were to produce the element on your own..you would be more taxing and it creates more strain or something along those lines.

Do you forget that you have to channel chakra of the respective elemental type to harness the one's existing in the enviroment?

You also said along the lines of shaping the element. They are all of the same difficulty to shape. I do not see any difference with it at all.

Seriously..several points in your thread is rather flawed..and i am getting daunted at the prospect of addressing them all >_<
 

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It was stated that a regular shinobi has at most 2-3 elemental affinities. The rest of what the anime potrays is simply BS. Heck, the anime showed kakashi using all the elements even though he personally stated he only had 3.

The Shinobi alliance probrably showed Earth Elemental based shinobi who could pull it off. Remember , the shinobi in the alliance are not genin and novices. They are decently trained Chunnin and above ninjas. with the exeption of Naruto Of course.

Note: It was also stated that a simple technique that anyone could perform(with earth based affinity) was requested. It was even admitted that it would lack protective power.

Another Note: You probrably intepretated the manga wrongly. Elemental Affinity and chakra maniuplation..it is one of the 2 basic things that a shinobi requires. A shinobi requires at least one..and it is rare for one not to use a technique not affliated with a elemental affinity too.

Next Edit: I don't think the manga showed Konoha 11 doing the earth wall? Manga Page if you care to show?
Kakashi once stated that Wind element is the rarest element.

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Kakashi once stated that Wind element is the rarest element.

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Thanks for the scan Lamb.

I would +Rep you for finding it but i have to spread some rep around before i can rep you again.

But the Rarity of the Element has nothing to do with it's difficulty to master.

The Rarity of the Elemental Affinity may be different between Elements but to Master Elemental Affinity , they all require Years as stated in the Manga though.

Naruto only shortened it due to his capacity to keep up a 1000 clones at once ( exact figure ) as stated in the manga unlike many others who are unable to train by this meathod
 

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And if you're a genius, it gets cut down by 1/4.

OT: Wind should be lower since it's the most abundant:

[video=youtube;ZqHqVnT-PsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqHqVnT-PsE[/video]
It is more accessible but it is hard to shape due to it's intangible nature. Temari had to use a large fan to create air pockets which her chakra can latch on.
 

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It is more accessible but it is hard to shape due to it's intangible nature. Temari had to use a large fan to create air pockets which her chakra can latch on.


I am beginning to wonder if you have any knowledge of how wind jutsus work.

Wind Training usually consists of

1)Strengthening the nature
2)Increase the amount of change
3)To infuse it into a weapon or jutsu to increase damage. That is it.

Temari's fan simply is wind chakra infused into it to form a technique. All wind techniques function in a similar manner..infusion into a jutsu or technique. Shaping wind chakra was never an issue or rarely an issue. Most jutsus with wind involve chakra maniuplation , and changing and infusing the chakra with wind affinity to increase it's power.
 
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What the actual Censored

I am beginning to wonder if you have any knowledge of how wind jutsus work.

Wind Training usually consists of

1)Strengthening the nature
2)Increase the amount of change
3)To infuse it into a weapon or jutsu to increase damage. That is it.

Temari's fan simply is wind chakra infused into it to form a technique. All wind techniques function in a similar manner..infusion into a jutsu or technique. Shaping wind chakra was never an issue or rarely an issue. Most jutsus with wind involve chakra maniuplation , and changing and infusing the chakra with wind affinity to increase it's power.
What I was trying to say is Temari's use of fan is similar to someone performing water jutsu using a nearby water source as a medium.
 

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What I was trying to say is Temari's use of fan is similar to someone performing water jutsu using a nearby water source as a medium.
You understood nothing didn't you? And i honestly doubted that was what you were trying to say in your quoted post. Twisting your quotes and your halfed-assed replies makes me decide that i shall not continue posting further.
 

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You understood nothing didn't you? And i honestly doubted that was what you were trying to say in your quoted post. Twisting your quotes and your halfed-assed replies makes me decide that i shall not continue posting further.
That was what I was really trying to say. Maybe I worded it wrong, english is not my first language. To make it clearer, Temari's use of fan is much closer to Sasuke's Kirin. The fan creates the required wind then Temari guides it with her own chakra, similar on how Sasuke guides and manipulate lightning storms.
 
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