Theory: Killer Bee is hidden within Samehada

[Thundercles]

Killer Bee is Hidden in Samehada
We all have seen Gyuki/Bee being sucked into the Statue.

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Now, there was something peculiar about that chapter: Bee severing a tentacle.

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What does this mean? That he quite possibly performed a substitution jutsu. He has done this before, with Sasuke.

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He performed the substitution while engulfed by Amaterasu. So, it is quite possible that he pulled this off again. The chains are as tangible as Amaterasu, so there should be no reason that he couldn't perform this tech again.

Samehada
Now, we know Samehada has the ability to hide its wielder within itself, as it did with Kisame.

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So, it wouldn't be too far-fetch'd to believe that Killer Bee performed this very technique.

Thoughts?

 

[Wolfus]

I don't thin so. It really seemed like hachibi was completely extracted. And if that's the case, even with his trick, he's not gonna live. He is not uzumaki, and even uzumaki die, so bee would most likely die right after the extraction

Off topic- I thought you were going to say "inside spiral zetsu".

 

[Thundercles]

I don't thin so. It really seemed like hachibi was completely extracted. And if that's the case, even with his trick, he's not gonna live. He is not uzumaki, and even uzumaki die, so bee would most likely die right after the extraction

Off topic- I thought you were going to say "inside spiral zetsu".

Not necessarily. Remember all Obito got was a tentacle. That may have been all Madara got. We wont know for sure until it is confirmed. Even the revival of the Juubi wouldnt be enough proof.

 

[Young Vongola]

It's plausible, but I honestly believe Bee is dead. Check this

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death from extraction is an absolute rule according to the Zetsu

 

[Thundercles]

It's plausible, but I honestly believe Bee is dead. Check this

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death from extraction is an absolute rule according to the Zetsu

As far as they know, it is the real Gyuki and Bee. But if they escaped something like Amaterasu and fooled Zetsu once, they can do it again. I'm tellin' ya. Madara only got a tentacle. Why else would Bee do that?

 

[Wolfus]

Not necessarily. Remember all Obito got was a tentacle. That may have been all Madara got. We wont know for sure until it is confirmed. Even the revival of the Juubi wouldnt be enough proof.

Not what I meant. Remember when obito started the extraction? The fake bee turned i to the tentacle, and they noticed it. However, we could still see madara extracting the chakra. So it would've been revelead had it been a tentacle only.

I think bee is gone. Too bad, I loved that guy. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh, etc

 

[Urda]

I have to agree.

 

[Young Vongola]

As far as they know, it is the real Gyuki and Bee. But if they escaped something like Amaterasu and fooled Zetsu once, they can do it again. I'm tellin' ya. Madara only got a tentacle. Why else would Bee do that?

But if Madara only got a tentacle, why would Gyuki say "My bad, Bee" while he was getting sucked into the Mazo? I think him cutting the tentacle just has something to do with Kurama's plan, and Bee had to be sacrificed because all the biju have put their faith into Naruto as the savior. Gyuki is definitely within the Mazo, which means he is not inside Bee anymore, which means Bee is dead/dying.

If it turns out that he isn't then it would have been pretty contradictory for Kishi to say that death from extraction is an absolute rule and then have both characters that got biju extracted from them survive.

 

[Thundercles]

Not what I meant. Remember when obito started the extraction? The fake bee turned i to the tentacle, and they noticed it. However, we could still see madara extracting the chakra. So it would've been revelead had it been a tentacle only.

I think bee is gone. Too bad, I loved that guy. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh, etc

Well, notice it didnt show Gyuki leaving Bee. It showed them being sucked in as one. And Kishimoto chose to specifically show that scene. Remember, unlike Naruto, Bee is the PERFECT Jinchuuriki. The Statue was still able to take the tentacle regardless. Naruto was lucky since his transformation is pure chakra and not physical.

 

[Thundercles]

I have to agree.

Thanks.

But if Madara only got a tentacle, why would Gyuki say "My bad, Bee" while he was getting sucked into the Mazo? I think him cutting the tentacle just has something to do with Kurama's plan, and Bee had to be sacrificed because all the biju have put their faith into Naruto as the savior. Gyuki is definitely within the Mazo, which means he is not inside Bee anymore, which means Bee is dead/dying.

If it turns out that he isn't then it would have been pretty contradictory for Kishi to say that death from extraction is an absolute rule and then have both characters that got biju extracted from them survive.

1st - Him saying "My Bad, Bee" could just be part of the act. Kishimoto is trying to tell a story without giving away obvious details.
2nd - You are hinging your argument on me stating that Bee survived an extraction. I'm not saying Gyuki was actually extracted. Only that "Gyuki" was a substitution just like he and Bee were when they fought Sasuke.

Furthermore, say I'm wrong. Bee could still theoretically survive. Remember when Kisame was missing his chest/abdomen. Samehada was able to completely replenish him to 100%. The same could be said of Bee if Samehada chose to heal him.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Not necessarily. Remember all Obito got was a tentacle. That may have been all Madara got. We wont know for sure until it is confirmed. Even the revival of the Juubi wouldnt be enough proof.

If he extracted the kyuubi from naruto he did with bee foolish too think madara only got a tentacle

 

[Urda]

If he extracted the kyuubi from naruto he did with bee foolish too think madara only got a tentacle

When thought the same with Obito, now look what happen.

 

[Wolfus]

Well, notice it didnt show Gyuki leaving Bee. It showed them being sucked in as one. And Kishimoto chose to specifically show that scene. Remember, unlike Naruto, Bee is the PERFECT Jinchuuriki. The Statue was still able to take the tentacle regardless. Naruto was lucky since his transformation is pure chakra and not physical.

I sorry, I don't see how that helps your point? Naruto was a perfect jinchuriki too, yet, nothing stopped madara. There is no way for the bijuu to be sealed in the gedo mazou without the extraction.
Indeed, the mazou took the tentacle. But not before it turned into a tentacle when the absorbtion started. If bee had used substitution, the momment madara pushed the bijuu out, it would've turned into a tentacle, and the tentacle would've been absorbed, but madara would've seen it.

I guess bee is really gone. I think taking the tail out is related to kurama's plan.

 

[Thundercles]

If he extracted the kyuubi from naruto he did with bee foolish too think madara only got a tentacle

Why is it foolish? That panel was shown for a reason. Also, Madara isn't immune to being tricked. Hell, it happened to Karin (a fantastic sensor), the rest of Taka, Obito, and Zetsu. The only found out when an extraction of the body was tried. As we know, the statue can take a person in itself too, as with Atsui, Samui, Kinkaku and Ginkaku. Furthermore, Naruto was ejected from Kurama as his Jinky form is pure chakra. Nothing "physical".

 

[xcoyote]

Most likely this is the case.
I dont think Kishi killed Bee off panel,thats just poor writing.

 

[Urda]

Why is it foolish? That panel was shown for a reason. Also, Madara isn't immune to being tricked. Hell, it happened to Karin (a fantastic sensor), the rest of Taka, Obito, and Zetsu. The only found out when an extraction of the body was tried. As we know, the statue can take a person in itself too, as with Atsui, Samui, Kinkaku and Ginkaku. Furthermore, Naruto was ejected from Kurama as his Jinky form is pure chakra. Nothing "physical".

"Pure" Chakra? Physical? Ummmm (-_-)

 

[Thundercles]

I sorry, I don't see how that helps your point? Naruto was a perfect jinchuriki too, yet, nothing stopped madara. There is no way for the bijuu to be sealed in the gedo mazou without the extraction.
Indeed, the mazou took the tentacle. But not before it turned into a tentacle when the absorbtion started. If bee had used substitution, the momment madara pushed the bijuu out, it would've turned into a tentacle, and the tentacle would've been absorbed, but madara would've seen it.

I guess bee is really gone. I think taking the tail out is related to kurama's plan.

@1st bold Naruto was NOT a perfect jinchuuriki. This has never been stated to date. This is evidenced by his Jinky form only being chakra and not the real deal.
@2nd bold That hasn't been proven. Akatsuki did it their way because of a certain factor: Madara was the only one to know how to use the tech like that. If Pain would've known how to do it, then he would have simply done that from the beginning. He wouldnt need Akatsuki. Kinda weird that he would do a tech that takes 3 days instead of one that is instant... Also, the statue is able to take human subjects
@3rd Bee was already hit with Amaterasu and was able to perform the tech. Dont see why this is different.

 

[Thundercles]

Most likely this is the case.
I dont think Kishi killed Bee off panel,thats just poor writing.

Agreed

"Pure" Chakra? Physical? Ummmm (-_-)

Meaning his Jinky form is just Chakra. Its Naruto version of Super Saiyan in other words. Bee can turn into his tailed beast. Actually turn into it. The same with Yugito. Gaara was able to unleash his Jinky and it was its physical self. Naruto uses a chakra version of Kurama. Not the actual physical Kurama.

 

[Urda]

Agreed

Meaning his Jinky form is just Chakra. Its Naruto version of Super Saiyan in other words. Bee can turn into his tailed beast. Actually turn into it. The same with Yugito. Gaara was able to unleash his Jinky and it was its physical self. Naruto uses a chakra version of Kurama. Not the actual physical Kurama.

You mean Tail Beast Mode. Naruto has yet to enter Tail Beast Mode. However, Naruto has a transformation that enables to use Kyuubi's chakra as a Chakra shroud and replicate full-body of the Kyuubi without its physical body being present.

 

[Thundercles]

You mean Tail Beast Mode. Naruto has yet to enter Tail Beast Mode. However, Naruto has a transformation that enables to use Kyuubi's chakra as a Chakra shroud.

Yes. That is what I mean.