Sasuke failed to understand Madara, Izuna will live on thru Sasuke! MUST READ!

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PLEASE TRY AND READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE RATING OR JUMPING TO BOTTOM OF POST!

So I noticed that when Sasuke first heard the name Madara Uchiha- He seemed angry and did not want to know who he was

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Further- he did not see him as but a memory, only as somebody to surpass and kill!


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After being ****ed with by Itachi, it was no surprise that Sasuke got extremely angry and up to the current chapter he probably still feels like Madara is just someone who should die and go to hell without giving a chance to understand his story!

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Itachi left Sasuke with the truth and his true feelings, and Team Hebi appears to show him the scroll and tell him that the REAL Madara is on the field and he is shocked!

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In the end, it was as if Sasuke's wish to kill Madara after Itachi was fulfilling what Itachi wished to do; stop Madara- the corrupted Uchiha, and coincidentally this flashback panel right after seems to Sasuke with a lot to digest concerning Shisui and Itachi's will to change the Uchiha and protect the village!!!

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But in order to be confident in protecting the village he had to hear the hearts of the village elders!!!

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It is apparent that he currently realized the importance of protecting the village, however it seems like his anger and goals were shifted towards taking down Madara, while Madara wanted to possibly include him in his plan to dominate the world and both resolves were erred (wrong).


It is very likely that Sasuke got a bit prideful from getting the chance to speak with the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th Hokages and wanted to settle his score with Madara Uchiha by killing him, rather than being patient in his actions! And NARUTO POINTED OUT THAT SASUKE WAS BEING RECKLESS USING AMATERASU ON HIM- HE LET HIS EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF HIM- AFTER ALL HE KNOWS THAT MADARA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF SUFFERING IN HIS LIFE AND OTHERS!

More reckless actions


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Proving again that he doesn't want to see Madara's angle or think before he acts

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As Hashirama wanted to pass him with a new technique; Sasuke looks annoyed at the fact that Hashirama sees him as similar to Madara's brother and is only concerned with knowing how this information will benefit him in defeating Madara. So once again; lack of understanding!

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The irony of this next page is that Madara still held anger toward Tobirama for killing Izuna, but ended up stabbing Sasuke right after he said this.


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Lastly:

I believe that regardless of the darkness Madara understood and unlocking the EMS, Madara understood more than anyone; that a sacrifice would have to be made in order to come to terms with the loss of his brother. And given the opportunity MADARA WOULD HAVE KILLED HIMSELF OR HIS BROTHER FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE BUT HASHIRAMA ON SECOND THOUGHT KILLED MADARA WHO WAS LIKE A BROTHER TO HIM, INSTEAD OF MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR PEACE!!!


THEN: THIS ULTIMATELY SHOWED THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO SACRIFICE HIS BROTHER FOR THE SAKE OF HIS IDEA OF PEACE!

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AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TO BRING OUT THE TRUE POWER OF THE UCHIHA- SASUKE MUST BE CLOSE TO DEATH IN ORDER TO GARNER HIS NEW EYE!
IZUNA WILL LIVE ON THROUGH SASUKE, SASUKE MUST OBTAIN THE RINNEGAN THROUGH NEARLY DYING AND EXPERIENCING SENJU CHAKRA AND BEING ON EQUAL TERMS AS A BROTHER TO MADARA! WHETHER MADARA PLANNED IT OR NOT- SASUKE WILL DEFINITELY SURVIVE JUST LIKE MADARA DID!
THIS WOULD EXPLAIN HOW BOTH SASUKE AND MADARA WILL UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, AND AT THE SAME TIME SASUKE MAY END UP JOINING MADARA'S SIDE!

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I shouldn't read,,, whole thread,,, Sasuke will not get Rinnegan

He dosen't has senju DNA

SENJU CHAKRA is NOT Senju DNA
 

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sasuke will not unlock the rinnegan until he reach old age.
 

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He's a split image of Izuna

Yes, it's become clearer and clearer in seeing how Madara was backstabbed by Hashirama and Sasuke was pierced by Madara: Madara showed his guts- both were willing to sacrifice themselves or someone close to them; and Madara never had direct hatred for Hashirama after the fact he honored him. In the end Madara survived, and in the end Sasuke must survive to fulfill his resemblance to Izuna and obtaining the greater power that Madara obtained- RINNEGAN! The foreshadowing is clear: Any other way is ridiculous!
 

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I shouldn't read,,, whole thread,,, Sasuke will not get Rinnegan

He dosen't has senju DNA

SENJU CHAKRA is NOT Senju DNA


9/10 it gets recetconned and Senju Chakra is now acceptable for Rinnegan.
 

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I shouldn't read,,, whole thread,,, Sasuke will not get Rinnegan

He dosen't has senju DNA

SENJU CHAKRA is NOT Senju DNA

As far as I know: Dna is only necessary for edo tensei and for changing the structure of the body! Also Hashirama said he would transfer his ALL HIS REMAINING CHAKRA TO SASUKE!

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If that is not enough to substitute for Senju 'dna' then maybe he should have begged Madara or Hashi for their magical sperm: Senju and Senju-Uchiha dna right there? LOL
 
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Sasuke lacks Senju dna/ cells
Sasuke will not get rinnegan as death is not a condition to awake rinnegan
 

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I read the whole thread but failed to see what point you want to make?

Sasuke was never reckless,it was naruto's stupidity which made him do that comment.
As soon as madara revived himself, sasuke attacked him with ninjutsu because he knew that he lost his rinnegan.
Naruto, didn't realize it by then, he thought it is the same old madara with rinnegan powers and ability to absorb ninjutsu.

So based on that, naruto commented that ninjutsu don't work on him , his information was incomplete.
In fact, sasuke made the best decision, killing him as soon as he was revived was best idea. When he realized ninjutsu didn't work on him, he went on ahead trying kinjutsu .

Right now, all sasuke wants is to defeat madara because he doesn't want him to lead the world through infinite tsukiyomi.
 

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As far as I know: Dna is only necessary for edo tensei and for changing the structure of the body! Also Hashirama said he would transfer his ALL HIS REMAINING CHAKRA TO SASUKE!

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If that is not enough to substitute for Senju 'dna' then maybe he should have begged Madara or Hashi for their magical sperm: Senju and Senju-Uchiha dna right there? LOL

Wrong. As far as we know, Madara obtained some of Hashirama's DNA, implanted it in his chest, when he got close to death, he awakened the rinnegan. I will bet any amount of Kumi that chakra will be the new DNA now.
 

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It's annoying to reply to many people at once, especially in defense but w.e.

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Sasuke lacks Senju dna/ cells
Sasuke will not get rinnegan as death is not a condition to awake rinnegan

Sasuke received ALL of Hashi's remaining chakra, If memory serves me clearly: Madara stated that he never infused Hashirama's DNA into his body; he only used his DNA to feed the gedo mazo machine which kept him alive and it was his closeness to death which unlocked it. I will try and find the manga page if I can!



I read the whole thread but failed to see what point you want to make?

Sasuke was never reckless,it was naruto's stupidity which made him do that comment.
As soon as madara revived himself, sasuke attacked him with ninjutsu because he knew that he lost his rinnegan.
Naruto, didn't realize it by then, he thought it is the same old madara with rinnegan powers and ability to absorb ninjutsu.

So based on that, naruto commented that ninjutsu don't work on him , his information was incomplete.
In fact, sasuke made the best decision, killing him as soon as he was revived was best idea. When he realized ninjutsu didn't work on him, he went on ahead trying kinjutsu .

Right now, all sasuke wants is to defeat madara because he doesn't want him to lead the world through infinite tsukiyomi.

I fail to see a couple things in what you said; especially the last part: in fact he was VERY reckless in thinking to charge Madara that he could defeat him with his own power, his emotions got the better of him

Wrong. As far as we know, Madara obtained some of Hashirama's DNA, implanted it in his chest, when he got close to death, he awakened the rinnegan. I will bet any amount of Kumi that chakra will be the new DNA now.


Wrong, as far as we do know: it was Kabuto or Orochimaru who found his body and added those cells! Madara denied that he implanted Hashi's dna to give him rinnegan, he said he unlocked it naturally so I agree with what Madara said, but I'm in a bind and have to find the manga page to back myself up!
 

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WOAH WOAH, that translation was wrong, Sasuke reminds HASHIRAMA of izuna,

it should say, you remind ME of uchiha izuna, not Him, Not madara

that translation is the foundation for this theory, and the translation was wrong
 
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sasuke wont get rinnegan no matter how hard he trys.
 

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Is everyone forgetting that Sasuke still has a zetsu clone in him?..If I'm not mistaken zetsu is made entirely of Senju DNA..so yeah.

And Madara recieved his rinnegan close before his death so I don't see why Kishi wouldn't write that Sasuke's near death experience caused him to unlock rinnegan or a new eye.
 

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Everyone acting like Senju chakra would be different from Senju dna in unlocking the rinnegan when it probably won't, I hope you're prepared to shit bricks when you're proved wrong. I was going based on memory in my later response but YES dna did unlock it for Madara but it wasn't until closer to his death, so I choose to believe death brings one closer to the rinnegan + some Senju power, but I'm pretty sure that Kishi did not waste the panel of Hashi offering Sasuke the rest of his chakra for there to be more butthurt mangafactors trying to say: 'dna is the only way' bash the book over your head manga-facters. Dna vs chakra? In the end its a theory and you can choose to believe or not, like or hate!
 

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Is everyone forgetting that Sasuke still has a zetsu clone in him?..If I'm not mistaken zetsu is made entirely of Senju DNA..so yeah.

And Madara recieved his rinnegan close before his death so I don't see why Kishi wouldn't write that Sasuke's near death experience caused him to unlock rinnegan or a new eye.

It seems alot easier to obtain Senju Dna then chakra now when you think about it, so by now Sasuke already has Senju dna + Senju chakra directly from Hashirama to allow him to be able to unlock it, + he is close to death now. Of course the other idiots go off and ignore everything and my thread except rinnegan and senju sperm LOL.
 
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I doubt Sasuke will join Madara but Madara may get TNJ'd by Sasuke this way
 

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Rinnegan is not the true power of the Uchiha.
 

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Wow what to say at first I was reading thinking where is this leading it then you just went off the reservation. This is some next level stuff
 
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