Yata doesn't block everything.
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1- I don't have the scan, but I've seen it here on NB.
2- Agreed, but I think light and sound properties are still aplied to NV.
3- But totsuka is a sword with sealing powers. Anything with sealing powers would seal when used. If itachi pierced naruto in a battle(an accident), would totsuka stop sealing because naruto is a friend of itachi? I don't think so.
There is no evidence to say that the shield stop acting as a shield at itachi's will. Not that I remember at least.
Sure, let's say that if things didn't go as we wanted to it's plot no jutsu, right?
Maybe because it was pointless for itachi to use the weapons? Totsuka wouldn't be useful, as sealing kabuto would be pointless. If yata could block kabuto's light atack that I don't remember the name, itachi would've used it.
AlphaScythian
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Yata can change its properties.
Its not hard to block the light or to isolate/absorb sound.
Vandenre1ch
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What about Lightning Release: Flash Pillar used by Cee and the cloud village against the juubi? I'm pretty sure thats a light-based attack.
Bla bla bla.
Yet, when itachi put his shield in front of himself to block an atack, itachi was seen. So, light got through.
Itachi could hear even though yata was covering him. Sound got through.
You're out of evidences.
AlphaScythian
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WTF are you talking about? Itachi never used yata vs white rage. In all other cases if sound light and radio waves got through its because they werent harmful you moron.
You're out of speculation.
SharinganisOP
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1. Please show me the scan so i can wank Itachi harder, A spherical encasement for yata that covers Itachi 100%? I would love that, would only make me think Itachi as even more powerful. But seriously, everytime I have seen yata mirror in use It seems to be an extremely large circular shield, but not completely sphereical. Though if it was, Itachi would truly be invincible.
2. I would think that they are rather close to what they are in real life, but aren't exact. I mean seriously in real life your not casting genjutsu on people with sound. This at the very least shows at least some difference in the abilities of sound.
3. Good point on totsuka, I doubt it would stop sealing. Even though you bring up this point, that doesn't stop that the shield couldn't have the ability to draw upon the users knowledge of what he finds threatening. They are two seperate weapons and thus the shield could have the ability to just know what the user is thinking. Afterall the weapon needs to be activated with susanoo and thus requires chakra to activate, perhaps the shield can read what he finds a threat through his chakra. The shield acting to Itachi's will is being used by people, and myself for this argument, in accordance to Itachi allowing Sasuke into his susanoo while the shield was up (as far as we know). Though I'm not sure of this myself, he very well could have just deactivated the yata mirror inbetween panels.
As I said: does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
There is no evidence to support that. Therefore, light and sound should be able to go through. I explained on the thread. Try disproving me with evidences isntead of fapboying like you always do.
1- Ok. I got it.
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2- But that's because genjutsus don't exist in real life. Of course, many things in naruto do not exsit in real life. However, some of the physical laws weren't contradicted yet, and they seem to be working just like in the real world.
Besides, in real life, there are some specific sounds that can disturb people's mind
3- But that's a giant assumption. The only evidence for this is itachi letting sasuke inside the susanoo. But I didn't even see yata there, so there is a high chance that it wasn't "on" anymore. Taking that away, there is not a single evidence to support that idea, not even in the databook or in anything. Therefore, I don't think it should be used.
So, genjutsu isn't an atack? Good to know, it must be a friendly gesture, right?
does the shield have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
There is no evidence to support that. Therefore, light and sound should be able to go through
There is a light based atack on the manga, that is kabuto's SM jutsu(which I forgot the name). Thsi would go through. Any sound based atack would go through as well, including sound genjutsu.
Your post was pointless.
SharinganisOP
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1. That still isn't covering him in his entirety. Yata definitely isn't small, but it clearly isn't 100% protective, at the very least his back is wide open, if you have something strong enough to get through susanoo that is. Also I always attributed partly to motion blur.
2. yes i know, but still it is slightly different. I assume that most laws are the same, but clearly stuff is different. And also i know there is stuff that can cause hullicinations with sounds or **** with peoples heads, but it aint going to make four frogs appear in your mind and never let you escape.
3. Yes it is a giant assumption, but assuming Itachi can program a crow to crawl out when Naruto sees Itachi's eyes and the eye is programmed as well in the Naruto universe, I don't see why he can't program a shield.
No. You manipulate your opponents chakra and mess with their 5 senses.
If I'm fighting you and I slip you some meth, that shan't mean 'meth' was an attack just because you're more seeing BS.
So no genjutsu isn't an attack in that sense. And, the db makes no mention of yata blocking it. Can't remember exactly but it says ninjutsu, something's else but not genjutsu.
If I understood you corretly, the guy is using meth ot harm the opponent and get an advantage on the battle. That's...an atack. He used math as an atack.
Just like genjutsu. "manipulate your opponents chakra and mess with their 5 senses." This is done in order to stop the opponent from figthing for some time, giving you a possibility to end the battle, or it is done in order to harm the opponent(genjutsu can harm, as seen).
I guess it fits the definition of atack.
1- That is because itachi wasn'y fully shown either. If you follow that circular pattern, it's likely that it completely covers itachi. Most people use it as a fact, already, from what I've seen.
2- Some are the same, some are a little different, some are completely contradict. But as far as we'vse seen, sound and light physical properties are still the same. Nothing shows it's different.
3- Yeah, but that crow was a living being controlled by him. The shield is just a weapon. I don't think we should be considering that possibility.
If I shout in your ear am I attacking you?
If I flash a torch in your eye did I just attack your eyeball? If I sing you a song you hate am I attacking you?
You want a shield to protect your 5 senses? Its best you get a soundproof tomb then because that'll have a better shot at blocking light, sound, air and any hopes you had of living.
Not everything is an attack. If onoki uses earth wall, did he just attack your eyesight? He's blocking your vision with his disgusting muddy wall after all.
The point is, none of this is physical and now of this does any damage to you. If you want a should to bloke your brain then you shield put yata in your head not on your arm.
Yata will block the attacks coming at you while you you're under the genjutsu, it won't protect your brain for you. You're just blowing this out of proportion.
If I'm battling against you, and I use a sound so intense that it makes your ear bleed and make you lose your hearing, it's an atack. It's harming you, it's favoring me. You might even lose balance because of that. It's an atack
If i burn your eyes and you lose your vision, in a battle, that's an atack.
You should look up the definition of atack.
I'm not saying everything is an atack. But genjutsu is.
Yata won't block light based atacks or sound based atacks.
Yea, then the sound stops and I'm fine. Or I block my ears and it's better. I'm now back to perfect condition with 0 injury.I don't know who you are to hear a loud sound and not block your ears to the point you went deaf.
Burn my eyes with what? A fire...? That's actually an attack. Photons of light aren't, you can just close your eyes. If the light is such that it can burn through your eyelids then you might have an argument but by that point its a laser emmiting massive heat and yata would block it like a fire.
Because that's pointless. Can you find a scan where light or sound killed anyone? No. It can't burn their skin, it can't leave physical marks and it can't break bones. When it's over you're perfectly fine.
Anyway believe what you want. If this is the new lengths people are going to to disprove yata then they must really be losing things to say. "Yata can't defend your brain from thoughts induced through 1 of 2 of your 5 senses, yata's hype is disproven".
Right...
Well, good luck with this thread and the whole finding a shield to block your thoughts thing.
Oh yeah, because covering your wear with your hands to protect yourself against a sound so intense it will make you deaf will solve the problem.
You obviously don't know the meaning of atack.
at·tack (ə-tăk′)
v. at·tacked, at·tack·ing, at·tacks
v.tr.
1. To set upon with violent force.
2. To criticize strongly or in a hostile manner.
3. To start work on with purpose and vigor: attack a problem.
4. To begin to affect harmfully:
Definition of atack. "To begin to affect harmfully". If it's used against you in order to harm you, it's an atack.
Funny you say that light isnat an atack: Perhaps you want to tell kabuto that(since his atack made sasuke deactivate susanoo). Perhaps you want to tell every dbz character that(solar flare).
The thing is: any sound based atack or mechanical wave-like atack with frequency and wave length similar to sound would get through yata. Any light based atack or any eletromagnetic wave- like atack with frequency and wave length similar to light would get through.
I explained this based on events that happened on the manga. I'm not beleiving in what I want.
Perhaps you must stop being a stupid fapboy and acutally try to pull an argument.
You're so desperate t keep the hype that you went against the definition of atack. Good luck with going against common sense.