Yata doesn't block everything.

[Wolfus]

Hi. Today I'd like to discuss about the hype concerning yata mirror, which is said to block all atacks.

Before you post that databook thig or that manga page, I'll warn you that it's not necessary. I know them. However, I'll still use manga facts and logic to counter the statement. Read everything before posting.

First- There is not a single evidence to support that: when using his V4 with yata, itachi can't hear anything. Actually, in his battle with sasuke, he was speaking with sasuke and with orochimaru.
In his battle with nagato, nagato was also being heard. Though after the conversation itachi was seen outside susanoo, when he first used it, it appeared that he was inside.

So what's my point? My point is that sound can get through yata mirror. Remember that yata covers itachi completely. If sound can get through, then any sound-based atack(such as those sound genjutsus) and any mechanical wave-like atack(with similar frequency and wave-length) would also get through.

Second- Itachi can still be seen when using yata, even when yata is right in front of him. That means that light gets through. We all know that to see some object, light has to "hit" this object and be reflected. Our eyes "capture" that reflected light, and then we can see it.

My point? My point is that any light-based atack(just like solar flare of dbz(couldn't think of anything else)) and any electromagnetic wave-like atack(with similar frequency and wave-length) would also get through.

Before you come with the hype, this is also a manga fact. It's a fact that itachi can be seen using yata, he can hear when using yata. I'm just aplying a bit of logic.
This means that the hype is false, and it can't be taken as a fact anymore. So, when debating, one will have to use feats.

Thanks for the attention.

 

[Joker]

Preach; Yata's hype is just about as real as Ten-Ten's relevancy to the plot.

 

[Prince Charles]

The way I see it is any physical attack that comes within direct contact with the mirror get's repelled. Simple as that.

 

[Wolfus]

The way I see it is any physical attack that comes within direct contact with the mirror get's repelled. Simple as that.

So you're saying that any energy based atack will get through?
Besides, even that is not completely true. Depending on the intensity, sound can be just like a physical atack. Last night I went out, and there was this dude with his music(shitty music, by the way) and it was so intense that it set up the alarm of the 3 cars, as if someone had hit the car.
Still, sounds get through.

 

[The Necromancer]

Congratulations. Sound genjutsu and non-existent light based attacks can get through Yata. :|

The way I see it is any physical attack that comes within direct contact with the mirror get's repelled. Simple as that.

This ^

 

[Smd]

i literally have seen 0 itachi threads or post.

op trying to start a flame war.


op- i believe manga+hype over be who dislike what was established

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Yata doesn't provide full protection, the backside of the user isn't covered by Yata Mirror.

You can also hear the voice of a Susano'o user even when they are fully enveloped by the jutsu.

Data Book = Kishimoto's words > Wolfus words.

 

[Joker]

Congratulations. Sound genjutsu and non-existent light based attacks can get through Yata. :|



This ^

Than what about the Long Grass Sword VS the Yata Mirror? They're both part of the legendary trio..

 

[The Necromancer]

Than what about the Long Grass Sword VS the Yata Mirror? They're both part of the legendary trio..

Are you referring to Orochimaru's Kusunagi blade, or Itachi's Sword of Totsuka? Only Totsuka is a spiritually based weapon. Orochimaru's Kusunagi is not.

 

[Wolfus]

Congratulations. Sound genjutsu and non-existent light based attacks can get through Yata. :|



This ^

Non existent? How come? How come someone cannot pull a light based atack or an eletromagnetic atack with frquencies similar to the visible light?
Besides, I also replied to that post.

You're just backing up a mistaken hype.

 

[Wolfus]

i literally have seen 0 itachi threads or post.

op trying to start a flame war.


op- i believe manga+hype over be who dislike what was established

Kishi's drawing were also stablished by kishi himself. It is a fact, and facts>hype

 

[xcoyote]

It also cant defend against gravity based attacks and most likely long range Kamui.

 

[Wolfus]

Yata doesn't provide full protection, the backside of the user isn't covered by Yata Mirror.

You can also hear the voice of a Susano'o user even when they are fully enveloped by the jutsu.

Data Book = Kishimoto's words > Wolfus words.

Yes, it does. I've seen the fanboys saying that it provides full protection, and even a manga scan showing that(if someone can post that, that will be great).

Still doesn't disprove anything.

Kishi's drawings= Manga fact>>>>databook.

 

[The Necromancer]

Non existent? How come? How come someone cannot pull a light based atack or an eletromagnetic atack with frquencies similar to the visible light?
Besides, I also replied to that post.

You're just backing up a mistaken hype.

Because we just witnessed a war with literally every shinobi in the world participating, and no such light or electromagnetic attack has been used.

You're just trying to find any slight loophole to base your speculation around in the hopes that people will agree on a technicality.

You think kishi is going to say "I'm going to add an electromagnet attack because technically Yata allowed light through it and electromagnetism is of a similar spectrum so naturally it can penetrate the Yata mirror."? No. He is not.

It also cant defend against gravity based attacks and most likely long range Kamui.

Correct. Although it really depends on the mechanics of Kamui.

 

[Joker]

Are you referring to Orochimaru's Kusunagi blade, or Itachi's Sword of Totsuka? Only Totsuka is a spiritually based weapon. Orochimaru's Kusunagi is not.

I never said it was spiritual; I said they're legendary. The sword was stated to be able to pierce almost anything; while the Totsuka sword was a variant the latter. How would it fair against the Yata?

 

[Owarij]

The way I see it is any physical attack that comes within direct contact with the mirror get's repelled. Simple as that.

Or spiritual


OT - Maybe, Maybe not, it's all debatable .. just as you can make these arguments, I can easily make one to argue that sound uses air a medium to travel , Yata mirror (Not susanno) , if completely covering Itachi would be able to block and seperate the chakra from the air..
Or, considering it has all elements imbued, If it completely turned to wind , it would stop the genjutsu from coming through.. Just as Temari was able to blow away Tayuya's genjutsu attempt with her wind jutsu...
We can go at this all day, at the end of the day, it's up to kishi to decide..


Btw, there are flaws in your argument.. The mirror isn't constantly blocking threats .. at points it is solely in an ethereal state and does nothing... Itachi being able to talk and hear would be one.. Itachi was also able to let Sasuke enter his susanno, because at that point Itachi deemed he wasn't a threat.. when sasuke tried to forcefully enter with a katana he was repelled... The mirror can solidfy when needed

 

[Erebus]

Didn't Zetsu say it counters any physical attack, this is already something we knew, no need to stuff it in deeper

 

[The Necromancer]

I never said it was spiritual; I said they're legendary. The sword was stated to be able to pierce almost anything; while the Totsuka sword was a variant the latter. How would it fair against the Yata?

The Yata mirror and Totsuka blade are spiritual weapons. The Kusunagi blade is not. By simple hierarchy, Yata beats Kusunagi.

 

[Prince Charles]

So you're saying that any energy based atack will get through?
Besides, even that is not completely true. Depending on the intensity, sound can be just like a physical atack. Last night I went out, and there was this dude with his music(shitty music, by the way) and it was so intense that it set up the alarm of the 3 cars, as if someone had hit the car.
Still, sounds get through.

What Im saying any physical attack that gets within contact of the mirror get's tanked? what is hard to understand about that? If it's physical such a fireball jutsu the mirror it get's tanked, the same goes for explosives such as bomb tags.

I dont have much info on the properties of light and sound and what not but I have info on common sense.

 

[Wolfus]

Because we just witnessed a war with literally every shinobi in the world participating, and no such light or electromagnetic attack has been used.

You're just trying to find any slight loophole to base your speculation around in the hopes that people will agree on a technicality.

You think kishi is going to say "I'm going to add an electromagnet attack because technically Yata allowed light through it and electromagnetism is of a similar spectrum so naturally it can penetrate the Yata mirror."? No. He is not.

Irrelevant. The manga isn't over yet. But ok, no one displayed that atack. However, still doesn't change the fact that it would get through, existing or not.

Speculation? I'm sorry, I think it's more like a fact. But feel free to disprove me that any eletromagnetic atack similar to the visible light would get through.

No, he wouldn't add it. Still, doesn't prove that the logic is mistaken.

And considering this, the hype is false(even more when there are sound genjutsus, and they are atacks as well).