So PS > BSM in terms of defense? Still.
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The point is to show that tanking it is impressive, lmao, you Uchiha tards always make me laugh.
This doesn't discredit anything, Juubi laser plowed through 9 Mountain Vaporizing attacks with ease, and it carved out a Mountain Range.
Doesn't discredit any of the facts stated in my post. Sorry pal, you sound stupid as hell, as usual. Until you can come back here with a real rebuttal, please don't bother replying. You sound like an idiot.
Tenpenchii's total energy>Juubi laser's total energy.
Juubi laser's is completely focused on the target, Tenpenchii isn't, so tanking that isn't a notable feat at all, especially when cloaked fodder tanked the same thing. Tenpenchii making a larger crater, causing the Juubidama trench to vanish, doesn't mean shit when the total energy of that enormous storm is so spread out so far and wide that only a portion of it is hitting a singular person at a time.
V3 has no feats that let it tank a normal Bijuu Dama let alone a laser from the Juubi, which plowed through 9 Bijuu Dama. lmao, dumbass. How simple can I make this? Kishimoto didn't depict shit, its just Sasuke fapboys who think V3 Susanoo Sasuke is on par with BM Naruto despite feats disagreeing.The fact you think V3 wouldnt do the job w/o any strong argument despite kishi depicting it to be around BM lvl, means you're biased ****. Long confirmed by the way
lol, not sure if serious.
-KCM Naruto was worried about getting killed by Ay, but he can tank the laser?
-KCM Naruto was getting hurt by Edo Han's attacks, yet he can tank the laser?
Yeah, its confirmed that you are a massive idiot, probably the biggest the base has ever seen, considering you are being completely serious with this bullshit.
Completely irrelevant as Tsunade's regeneration doesn't let her survive Bijuu Dama. This nonsense is false anyway.
Manga disagrees. It taking off 6 of the more durable cloak's tails means that it'll kill Naruto if he uses the KCM Cloak, simple as that.
Going against the laser has little to no significance here, but you always make bullshit up when you can't prove an argument with manga facts and feats, so this is no surprise.
1 Bijuu Dama yields an explosion that vaporizes Mountains, Juubi laser effortlessly plowed through 9 of them. You keep on going on about the size when the manga has shown its power. It tanked it because it was durable enough, it tanked an attack (With damage, so its not a real tank) that plowed through 9 Mountain busters with no difficulty at all.
V3 has no feats that let it tank Bijuu Dama. I still haven't seen any, only you trying to transfer Naruto's feat of tanking Juubidama to V3 Susanoo using flawed logic, is that really all you can do? Spout shit and use shit logic? lmao.
lol, does this have anything to do with why Tenpenchii obviously didn't exert more energy on Madara's Susanoo than the Juubi laser did on Naruto's Avatar?
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Never asked for your opinions. I was just shocked at your poor analogy.
- Wait, are you 'actually' considering tails as physical extensions? When the Bijuus disagree? That tail was cut off easily at the juncture as the bijuu was engulfed by Amaterasu. Amaterasu has shown to eat all types of Chakra. The second and third time I have seen Hachibi's tail cut off is through Kamui and Hachibi doing so himself. Still no clue as to why you even chose such a ridiculous analogy, when Hachibi has been showed to guard itself by wrapping the tails around its body. How stupid of it, when they have no value whatsoever.
- That is a different image. Don't compare the two. This is when Naruto ate the compressed chakra and belched it out as a Flash dama. That attack was far less concentrated in comparison which was deflected by Deva. I don't see the parallel between the two. Only in 'your' opinion could the tails have no value when Naruto survived the Juubi's Flash dama because of them.
- A physical attack's shock wave versus a bomb explosion? You will go a long way. Both of these attacks in terms of appearance and properties have literally no comparison. It's like comparing FRS to a Bijuu-dama or Yasaka Magatama etc. You have zero proof to support that Naruto's BD was just as powerful or god forbid, more powerful than the combined attacks of all nine-tails. Even the fully charged flash dama - far less concertinaed form of a bijuu-dama - as shown through Suigetsu's ability to tank it, point blank only with a bunch of water - was tanked by Orochimaru who was near death. Even if he DID reduce it in power, he took it to his face for godsake.
Anyways, don't reply back as I don't have time on my hands to engage in lengthy debates anyway.
P.s: Still see certain people being as offensive and moronic as ever. NB never changes.
Never asked for your opinions. I was just shocked at your poor analogy.
- Wait, are you 'actually' considering tails as physical extensions? When the Bijuus disagree? That tail was cut off easily at the juncture as the bijuu was engulfed by Amaterasu. Amaterasu has shown to eat all types of Chakra. The second and third time I have seen Hachibi's tail cut off is through Kamui and Hachibi doing so himself. Still no clue as to why you even chose such a ridiculous analogy, when Hachibi has been showed to guard itself by wrapping the tails around its body. How stupid of it, when they have no value whatsoever.
- That is a different image. Don't compare the two. This is when Naruto ate the compressed chakra and belched it out as a Flash dama. That attack was far less concentrated in comparison which was deflected by Deva. I don't see the parallel between the two. Only in 'your' opinion could the tails have no value when Naruto survived the Juubi's Flash dama because of them.
- A physical attack's shock wave versus a bomb explosion? You will go a long way. Both of these attacks in terms of appearance and properties have literally no comparison. It's like comparing FRS to a Bijuu-dama or Yasaka Magatama etc. You have zero proof to support that Naruto's BD was just as powerful or god forbid, more powerful than the combined attacks of all nine-tails. Even the fully charged flash dama - far less concertinaed form of a bijuu-dama - as shown through Suigetsu's ability to tank it, point blank only with a bunch of water - was tanked by Orochimaru who was near death. Even if he DID reduce it in power, he took it to his face for godsake.
Anyways, don't reply back as I don't have time on my hands to engage in lengthy debates anyway.
P.s: Still see certain people being as offensive and moronic as ever. NB never changes.
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Well of course it hasnt anything to do cuz it would defeat your argument right?
So fraction of tenpenchi did eliminate whole that focused damage done by lazer in same vector. Its a manga drawn evidence and proof, you choose to ignore.
V3 still can be concluded to be more durable then BM. After obito's attack sasuke survived solely due to susanoo, naruto due SM enhanced body not just BSM avatar.
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Looking at the scan we can conclude that his SM body sustained good damage after BSM broke off, sure death damage unlike sasuke.
This is another evidence in favor of V3.
As far as fodders surviving tenpenchi is quite easy. They were just blown away and can be compared to ping pong balls. You can hit ping ball hard whole day but to brake you either have to press it against something or make high speed impact with something durable.
P.S. Stop spamming walls of text moron, keep your shit short. Most of it are just insults anyway, so get off that high shinsusenju you're riding cuz I wont be taking them.
Next time either short placed argument or reported for spam, insults and neg repped.
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You're forgetting vital details. For instance, Naruto was the one who got up first. Also, Sasuke had a 9 tail cloak active to protect him as well. You're grasping at straws in your debate against the laser argument.
Tsunade took out a susanoo more complete than the one during tenpenchi with a single punch.
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Are you suggesting Tsunade can destroy 7+ mountains with a single punch? No, just no. All evidence points to Kidgamer and I being right about the laser. A wave has a lot more total force than a punch, yet since its effects are so vast, its energy is to spread out to hurt you. Yet, someone's punch will do damage to you since the energy, even though not as large, is focused on a specific target.
Insults or not, he's right.
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Naruto got up 1st? So? He still survived due to SM body, standing up 30 sec b4 SMless sasuke isnt impressive.
No, kyuubi cloak was gone b4 obito's attack took place.
Rofl tsunade knocked down a clone's V3 didnt even destroy it.
Debate was never about the lazer it wasnt tested against susanoo and we can only speculate here, but we can conclude that V3>/=BM by what manga has presented.
See where is your problem? Its same as kidgamer's you make speculation on top of another and another while having wrong assumption in core.
Kid gamer is wrong. He engadged me in this thread saying V3 wouldnt tank juubi lazer. He spammed and insulted me for over full page, yet what is his undeniable scan or proof or what ever?
I already compared trenches from lazer and combined 8-9 tails TBB, both were erased by tenpenchi.
I have evidences and real arguments about V3 superiority over BM, yet all you and kid say that it wouldnt tank lazer cuz BM got his tails handed to him. I mean WTF is this logic?
Most importantly i never included lazer in this thread, you and other nardo fans did that in hope to turn tables and somehow deny manga scan where both susanoo and avatar got destroyed thus would be of comparable level in durability with sligh advantage of susanoo due SM body naruto had. Talk about grasping.
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One cant conclude that PS shits on kyuubi. Kyuubi has huge TBBs thus overall stronger firepower, where PS has stronger durability.
Tsunade was fighting a freaking clone ... The cloak Sasuke had was gone. All one needs is a few images like these -
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- I don't see any cloak. So V3 Susano'o saved Sasuke from Obito's attack. Simple manga fact. Making excuses like Naruto got up first is such a desperate argumentation.
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Different type of damage and giant BSM TBB sure has more destruction to it.
Only way it could be true if slash was used to cut TBB in half thus disable it or make go off at range.
A little offtop wont harm anyone. If PS was to oppose Kurama (disregarding the users, lets just say its a battle of two giants) - which side would win? Or would have better chances to win.
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There's no such thing as a wrong assumption unless proven to be so. I don't have time to reply anymore so I'll keep this brief. The susanoo didn't get up after Tsunade punched it did it? Therefore, it was defeated. I could use a ton of feats to show just how ridiculous of a claim you're making that the tiny, little, V3 susanoo is more durable tan biju mode. But then you'd lable them as "assumptions." There is such a thing as coming to a logical conclusion. My arguments are valid. Therefore, you need to somehow debunk the material I'm using, but that will never happen.
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I would bet on PS. I think you know it.
PS slashes is faster attack and most likely can cause serious damage if not cut in half.
Giant TBBs take some time to make leaving kurama open to attack, thus cant be used in heat of battle, especially not in close quarters fight.
PS has raw strength as well, not even bijus were shown to cause such powerful attack as slashes with mere swing.
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And no im not comparing small V3 to big BM, im comparing biggest of their forms.
There is no logical assumption of yours or argument that would trump kishi's drawing.
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Personally, I think that the fact that Kyuubi has more limbs to his disposition would come very handy, as tails could be used to subdue PS movements. Lets not forget that they are very, very strong, since just one was able to hold another Bijuu in place, and Im talking about BM Naruto who had only half of Kyuubis strenght to his disposition. Also, PS slash cutting Kyuubi in half? I dont see it. It would trully mean that PS >> Kyuubi in overall power. Affect him to some degree, damage, but not cut in half.
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Well if the slash woudnt be enough then sword sure would do the job, and sword was shown to have variable length giving reach advantage.
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