It was plainly stated in the manga that his eye was a spare.
Oh, so it's okay for you to speculate? I see. I'm just going to fire your own quote back at you:
So, please show me where it was said that Madara used Tsukiyomi.
Speculation.
Proof Itachi > Madara in genjutsu
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Too fast for Itachi? Lol, that's interesting
Madara is only fighting blind due to the temporarily stolen sage mode abilities
Not that it even matters , Madara would easily shrug of the majority of Itachi's genjutsu and vice versa... Unless your opponent is far below you in terms of sharingan prowess, Using genjutsu against proficient sharingan users won't fetch you great results
Do I need to pull up scans, to destroy your fallacious arguments? I would have thought you read the manga It is shown in the manga that he used Sussano blind so obviously, based on common sense, he had access to Tsukuyomi. Not only that, the OP shows him saying that he was going to cast the Genjutsu on the moon, what is that Genjutsu called? Tsuku No Mei AKA Infinite Tsukuyomi
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It's speculation coming from the man, who himself cast the genjutsu? How do you sound right now?
lol.
And based on common sense, casting a genjutsu on someone with a 3T sharingan and referring to it as a "genjutsu" and not "tsukiyomi," shows that he didn't use it. All genjutsu's are used to control the 5 senses. Nothing Madara's shown is on par with Itachi's Tsukiyomi.
The God Tree casts it, not Madara.
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Show me where he said he's using Tsukiyomi.
Ok, guess I shall bring the scan(s)
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1) What your saying makes no sense as Kakashi's 5 sense were also affected as well even inside Tsukuyomi. There is not another Genjutsu in the manga that has been shown to affect the condition of a person while inside the genjutsu (E.G Madara making himself young again)
2) As per scan above, it shows that Madara is using I quote "THE GENJUSTU HE WAS GOING TO USE ON THE MOON...." The scan also confirms that Madara is able to use Tsukuyomi but wanted to use it on the moon to create the dreams world
3) That 3-Tomoe argument is flawed unless you can prove that Obito didn't use Kamui whilst not his MS stage
All you did was repost the scan in the OP. Nothing new.
Genjutsu affecting five senses is the basics. Tsukiyomi hospitalized Kakashi and Sasuke. No other genjutsu has done that.
Itachi changed his and Naruto's appearance several times while in his genjutsu.
Again, the God Tree casts it, not Madara.
Again, the eye Madara used was not his. Obito's was. Regardless, I don't remember Obito ever using Kamui with the 3 tomoe.
Because it seems like you still don't get it
1) Speculation once again, Itachi's use for using it on Kakashi was to torment, we don't know if Madara is capable of that (yet)
2) As he did the same thing in Tsukuyomi, this proves nothing
3) The scan says that Madara can cast the jutsu as well, regardless or not of whether the Tree also does it, Madara is able to use it as well, as he demonstrated to Obito
4) You still have not disproven my claim about Obito, I'm waiting
Your entire argument is speculation.
No. Madara's MS genjutsu was this:
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A was perfectly fine after it. Therefore Madara's MS genjutsu is not on par with Itachi's.
He didn't use it on Obito.
You still haven't shown him using Kamui with 3T.
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the man can put you into a genjutsu just by pointing his finger at you. What else needs to be discussed?
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1) No, my argument is back on a fact, which you fail to accept, nothing new on the base tho
2) Poor example and once again.... Speculation, it was quoted by Madara that he was toying with the Kages
3) Refer to the OP please
4) Here ya go
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This comment was already made by Madara
No facts backing that genjutsu being Tsukiyomi.
Do you have proof that he has anything better? (Without using the ten-tails of course)
You mean the OP that clearly establishes Itachi being better at Genjutsu than Madara?
Madara getting owned by Rock Lee has nothing to do with anything.
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1) I have already proven this to you, if you choose to be of ignorance be my guest
2) Do you have any proof that he didn't? He clearly stated he was toying with the Kages so I'm pretty sure he's not going to use his strongest genjustu. Once again, your claim is speculation
3) No, the OP in which you fail to pay attention too, you know, with the proof backing my claim
4) Please stop with your BS assumptions and denial, this is proof right here and refuting shows that you cannot accept manga fatcs. I should also note (since it seems recollection of events seem to be forgotten) that Obito (along with Kakashi) unlocked MS after Kakashi killed Rin, nowhere around the time that Madara found him
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No. MS is needed for Tsukiyomi, until shown otherwise.
And your claim that he has anything better is speculation.
No proof backing any of your claims.
Proof that's Kamui? Could've been hiding like a mole.
Sorry, but I've long since disproven you. I'm simply using your hypocritical logic against you. You're assuming Madara's genjutsu > Itachi's, when from what we've seen it's obviously not. Yet in your Hiruzen thread you turn a blind eye to his elemental feat because it doesn't have a ranking in the DB. Clearly biased.
1) Just as MS in needed to use Sussano no?
2) A better genjutsu, is Tsukuyomi, which has been proven
3) Ok
4) Nice buttpull that literally makes zero sense so coincidently the half of him that didn't get crushed and the eye he gave to Kakashi and he escaped death because the rocks missed him? Ok
I never once stated that Madara GJ > Itachi's however, I said it's a possibility that it could be equal or greater. This thread is speculation and until the Naruto manga ends, we don't know for a fact that Madara will display Tsukuyomi to that of Itachi's. Obviously going off feats,
Itachi TY > Madara's
However, the OP does state that he used the genjutsu that was to be cast on the moon. If it wasn't tsukuyomi, can you prove what it was?
