@ Hiruzen Fans and Quesiton for hiruzen

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Ok this is to all my Day 1 Hiruzen fans. After many years of being called trolls and fodders. We finally got our time of reckoning.

My question though as to why i posted in this Naruto discussion

Hiruzen is currently not full power in edo form...

Prime Hiruzen was 100x stronger than current Hiruzen

Could you guys imagine just how strong Prime Hiruzen was?

Given the average response quality from people with Hiruzen avatars, you're still trolls. I don't care about Hiruzen's prime hype. Madara lived to see the prime of both Hashirama and Hiruzen, but he still said Hashirama was the strongest shinobi. The word of someone who's seen both>a fodder's history lesson. Hiruzen's hype got thrown out the window. However, we are now starting to see where he earned some of it.
 

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Given the average response quality from people with Hiruzen avatars, you're still trolls. I don't care about Hiruzen's prime hype. Madara lived to see the prime of both Hashirama and Hiruzen, but he still said Hashirama was the strongest shinobi. The word of someone who's seen both>a fodder's history lesson. Hiruzen's hype got thrown out the window. However, we are now starting to see where he earned some of it.
lmao...Madara was in a cave during Hiruzen's reign... Prime Hiruzen was in his prime long after VOTE and probably after Tobirama died
 

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lmao...Madara was in a cave during Hiruzen's reign... Prime Hiruzen was in his prime long after VOTE and probably after Tobirama died

Right, he only had spies that could give him detailed reports of battles. Oops. Zetsu spied on conflicts. He was detailed enough to get Obito when he was injured, showing a high level of detail in information gathering. In other words, Zetsu would report any conflicts Hiruzen would take part of. During all of Hiruzen's prime age, he was undoubtedly monitored by Zetsu and reported to Madara. Yet, Madara still says Hashirama's stronger.


A word of advice Hiruzen fans. Never trust hype. A prime example of hype meaning absolutely nothing is fate/stay night. In it, Berserker has the hype of the strongest servant in the grail war, but this is what happens. go to 46:20



Hype is absolutely meaningless. Logically, Hiruzen has nothing shown that can beat Hashirama.
 

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Right, he only had spies that could give him detailed reports of battles. Oops. Zetsu spied on conflicts. He was detailed enough to get Obito when he was injured, showing a high level of detail in information gathering. In other words, Zetsu would report any conflicts Hiruzen would take part of. During all of Hiruzen's prime age, he was undoubtedly monitored by Zetsu and reported to Madara. Yet, Madara still says Hashirama's stronger.


A word of advice Hiruzen fans. Never trust hype. A prime example of hype meaning absolutely nothing is fate/stay night. In it, Berserker has the hype of the strongest servant in the grail war, but this is what happens. go to 46:20



Hype is absolutely meaningless. Logically, Hiruzen has nothing shown that can beat Hashirama.
@bold:
Enma pole Hashi's wood.
The professor Fodderama.
Manga feats/facts U_U
 

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All we know is that Both his Living Old state and his current old edo stated are nothing compared to his prime state. Stated by both Enma and Orochimaru back in part one.
 

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@bold:
Enma pole Hashi's wood.
The professor Fodderama.
Manga feats/facts U_U

Great, so while he destroys one root another one will impale him. Hashirama survived a TBB explosion when he used wood style defensively, Hiruzen has nothing on that.
 

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Sadly it can absorb anything he chucks at it with his 5 element attacks :/
And while the rinnegan user is sittingn there attempting to suck up all those jutsu, the original hurizen can come from behing and crush him with a blow from enma, or tear him to pieces with 1000 giant shuriken that cover too large of a area for him to escape. Either way, hiruzen has the ability to defeat a rinnegan user.
 

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Kishimoto can make prime hiruzen as strong (reasonably) as he wants. He was stated to be the strongest hokage in his prime so it's a possibility that he could be beyond hashirama's strength. But he has no feats to support that and since it was a statement made ages ago, we don't know if that still holds true...
 
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