[Theory] So what is Hashiramas Sage Mode?

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Theory

My theory is that Hashiramas sage mode IS the most powerful sage mode,
and the original sage mode that the S06P used.


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The other sage modes, Dragon, Toad, and slug (unconfirmed) , are branches
of the original. Perhaps the three animals were the sages summons, and he taught them sage mode.


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Now what I believe is the reason WHY Hashirama can go into sage mode
without training at any of the sacred places is because it is in his bloodline. He is 100% Senju.
So why didn't Tobirama, or Fodder Senju #466 get sage mode you ask?

Well the answer is simple. Why did only Madara and Izuna Unlock MS in his time?
Because its a rare thing to do. Just like unlocking sage mode as a Senju would be.

The fodders already had the physical body of the Senju, just like the fodder Uchiha had 3 tomoe Sharingans.
I'm sure if there were more 100% Senjus in Narutos time at least one would unlock Sage mode, Just like Itachi and sasuke unlocked MS.


The Uchihas gift is the eyes. The Sharingan.


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The Senjus gift is the body. Strong life force and high chakra.

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So when the Uchihas evolve their Sharingan, they get the Mangekyo Sharingan/Eternal Mangekyo
( If they take their brothers eyes, yes the Uchihas are twisted freaks, and note that EMS is NOT
stronger than MS, only you never lose your light)

When the Senjus evolve their physical body (Which has only been done by the S06P),
They get the purest form of Sage mode.

Now you may ask What about the Rinnegan, where does the Senju evolve there.
That's when you have to remember that the Rinnegan is a mix between the body and the eyes,
which Madara currently has, and the only one to unlock it since the S06P.
Nagato and Obito were borrowed Rinnegans.

Conclusion

Just like the Uchihas can upgrade their Sharingan to MS/EMS, My theory is that Senjus can
also upgrade their physical body/chakra to sage mode. Hashirama was the only one to unlock
sage mode of his time, and Madara was the only one who unlocked EMS of his time.
So obviously its a rare thing to get, and only the strongest would acquire it.

Side theory

Its possible that there is another upgrade to Senju sage mode
that I guess you can say can go with EMS (Even though EMS and MS are basically the same, you just never go blind), and maybe Naruto will unlock that soon.
We just have to wait and see.

 

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good thread
now where is your avy from
 

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Probably slug sage mode. There's only 3 kinds of sage modes known in existance. Toads, Snakes, and the bone forest where katsuyu lives.
 

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Yeah I agree though all jokes aside
the dot at the top of his head just screams GOD and the only other character besides him and that fail-hype senior to be associated with it are the Sage, so it's very, very possible he also has the ability to seethe life into anything
 

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Meh its more likely for it to be Slug sage mode, as it has healing qualities as shown by Madara's rapid regeneration. Tsunade's summons focus on support and healing. Hence it makes sense for the slug sage mode to heal rather than increase combat ability in a more focused way like Toad Sage mode which increases durability and strength.

For example Madara was pierced by Sasuke's sword. Toad sage mode could likely break it or deflect it or just plain tank it.

So no I don't think Hashi's sage mode is the original sage mode.
 
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Maybe....maybe this is the sage mode the toad was talking about...doubt it though.

Seems to late and not relevant...@sspull complete sage mode at the last moment is just a blah to the series.
 

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I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!!!! +rep!
haha thanks
Maybe....maybe this is the sage mode the toad was talking about...doubt it though.

anythigns possible in naruto, who knew hashi was going to give sasuke a new jutsu out of no where
Seems to late and not relevant...@sspull complete sage mode at the last moment is just a blah to the series.
Lol, you do know the only way to beat a juubi jin is with sage mode, and clearly madara is becoming the new juubi jin.
 

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Could be or it could just be a advance version of what Tsunade and Sakura has. I hope kishi doesn't leave it as just an ass pull feat.
 

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Hashirama got his sage mode from the humid bone forest it's the third spot like toad mountain n dragon cave
 

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Great theory, and as for the "upgrade" for sage mode that you mentioned we haven't seen yet, we have actually seen an upgrade. Sage Mode has been shown to make one body virtually indestructible while its active.
 

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Could be or it could just be a advance version of what Tsunade and Sakura has. I hope kishi doesn't leave it as just an ass pull feat.

well clearly its not an advanced version because tsunade nor sakura use senjutsu or know how to use.

Hashirama got his sage mode from the humid bone forest it's the third spot like toad mountain n dragon cave

i highly doubt it is, i know the healing part of it makes it seem like a slug sage mode, but if its the original sage mode, it should be able to have the best offense AND defense, including healing.
 

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Great theory, and as for the "upgrade" for sage mode that you mentioned we haven't seen yet, we have actually seen an upgrade. Sage Mode has been shown to make one body virtually indestructible while its active.

lol ya that part was just a random thought. I was thinkin like how the uchihas take their brothers eyes and get ems maybe the senju do soemthing and get like an invincible sage mdoe lol.

but my main point was that sage mode is to the physical body for senju like MS is to sharingan for the eyes for the uchiha
 

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I m sry but you can't naturally have sage mode it requires you to actually balance the chakra in your body and the visual upgrate you take its based on what animal trained you example is naruto take frog ... kabuto takes snake to dragon while hashirama not quite sure but he will probabily get slugish form if he were to upsorb more energy i think that s the way it is anyways + rep for the effort
 
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haha thanks

Lol, you do know the only way to beat a juubi jin is with sage mode, and clearly madara is becoming the new juubi jin.

Do you know that Naruto is dying/dead?

Do you know Sasuke is right there and has senjutsu in his body and maybe Hashirama's cells?

Do you know that Madara plans aren't to become the Juubi's jin...its to complete the genjutsu u-u
 

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I m sry but you can't naturally have sage mode it requires you to actually balance the chakra in your body and the visual upgrate you take its based on what animal trained you example is naruto take frog ... kabuto takes snake to dragon while hashirama not quite sure but he will probabily get slugish form if he were to upsorb more energy i think that s the way it is anyways + rep for the effort

thats what im saying though. The oens who got trained by the animals, those animals got trained by the sage. hashirama has the original sage mode because he is pure senju, just like the younger son, i believe the younger son had this sage mode as well. the animal sage modes are limited.

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Do you know that Naruto is dying/dead?

Do you know Sasuke is right there and has senjutsu in his body and maybe Hashirama's cells?

Do you know that Madara plans aren't to become the Juubi's jin...its to complete the genjutsu u-u

you do know naruto is NOT ging to die right?

you do know sasuke isnt going to go sage mode or anything like that. It will destroy his character.

And how else will he manipulate the tree god if he isnt the juubi jin? huh?
 
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you do know naruto is NOT ging to die right?

you do know sasuke isnt going to go sage mode or anything like that. It will destroy his character.

And how else will he manipulate the tree god if he isnt the juubi jin? huh?

Well its not obvious to you and many other people which is a plot twist...so yes.
Bet Kishi surprised you when he said sasuke was going to become hokage didn't he?
I wasn't.


No....your opinion....curse mark is basically sage mode LMAO!
Jugo already gave him senjutsu and he already has curse and senjutsu enzymes.


He was doing it....its actually already opened is it not?
 
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