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KingHashirama -> Provides a scan where a medic makes medical diagnosis on his opposite and calls it a battle skill.

Team 2 wins inb4 Muu busts the whole country with Jinton. ;)
KingHashirama- > Provides a scan where a medic hears the persons heart to make a medical diagnosis

Strict - > Hearing hearts is a medical diagnosis, and can't be applied in battle..

nice restricting abilities Boy mad, that females mid-diff stomp Muu. ^_^

He so mad. He downright furious.
ooooo no clue why you talkin , seein as Muu solos Tobirama neg diff =D
What do i need to prove, everything ive said is in the manga and explicitly state LEL take your fanfic somewhere else
you couldn't tell us what regular heartbeat is

you couldn't tell us she only heard it because it erratic

you couldn't provide us which erratic pattern she can hear

I did my job in providing a scan where she heard a heartbeat.. rest is up to you. I did my job =]

yet you say its in the manga... hmmmm nicely done.
 

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KingHashirama- > Provides a scan where a medic hears the persons heart to make a medical diagnosis

Strict - > Hearing hearts is a medical diagnosis, and can't be applied in battle..

nice restricting abilities Boy mad, that females mid-diff stomp Muu. ^_^


ooooo no clue why you talkin , seein as Muu solos Tobirama neg diff =D

you couldn't tell us what regular heartbeat is

you couldn't tell us she only heard it because it erratic

you couldn't provide us which erratic pattern she can hear

I did my job in providing a scan where she heard a heartbeat.. rest is up to you. I did my job =]

yet you say its in the manga... hmmmm nicely done.

You would have to be a retard not to knwo what a regular heartbeat is so im not going to explain common sense

I just told you she heard it becausse its erratic, shes only done this once and as Strict said and so did i, it was a medical analysis. Lets say she can hear it in battle, how is it helpinng her if hes flying> you have little evidence to show that this is used in battle.

You done jack shiz, i still dont see how this is helping her win the fight, this is what Tsuande fanboys resort to.
 

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You would have to be a retard not to knwo what a regular heartbeat is so im not going to explain common sense

I just told you she heard it becausse its erratic, shes only done this once and as Strict said and so did i, it was a medical analysis. Lets say she can hear it in battle, how is it helpinng her if hes flying> you have little evidence to show that this is used in battle.

You done jack shiz, i still dont see how this is helping her win the fight, this is what Tsuande fanboys resort to.
Sine i'm retarded enough not to know, enlighten me.

do you know what a medical analysis is? its not a technique.. Medical analysis is simply taking what you hear/see and relating it to medical stuff. That is a medical analysis. She must hear his heart, to make the diagnosis that his heart beat is erratic.

As I said, i provided evidence where she heard someone's heart. You ain't provide sh*t to prove your point of view.

Muu can't be sensed right? however, he still has a heart. if she hears the heart, she can tell mei and sakura what to do. And you talk as if they don't know about Muu's ability. Rofl.

Telling me to apply common sense, while you are making Kage level ninja act like genins is kind of sad.
 

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We get it, you hate the female leads.

OT: Muu most likely takes this.
 

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Sine i'm retarded enough not to know, enlighten me.

do you know what a medical analysis is? its not a technique.. Medical analysis is simply taking what you hear/see and relating it to medical stuff. That is a medical analysis. She must hear his heart, to make the diagnosis that his heart beat is erratic.

As I said, i provided evidence where she heard someone's heart. You ain't provide sh*t to prove your point of view.

Muu can't be sensed right? however, he still has a heart. if she hears the heart, she can tell mei and sakura what to do. And you talk as if they don't know about Muu's ability. Rofl.

Telling me to apply common sense, while you are making Kage level ninja act like genins is kind of sad.

Regular heart beat 60-100bpm
Irregular heartbeat 100+ bpm (erratic!!!)

A regular heartbeat is slower and more steady, you should be arguing with me if you don't know what a regular heart beat is, unless your heartless and cant feel your own heart.

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Im discussing heart rate like its remotely changing the embarrassing outcome of this battle ¬__¬

that is too big to sig normally but ill find a way. Sakura didn't do this in the bell test and she was Tsunades deciple she pretty had knowledge on most if not all the things Tsuande knew in terms of medics. Notice how your the only one saying this?? find it kind of strage?? everyone cant be wrong
 

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Tsunade and Oro were few meters away, Muu would be much more distance away during flight why would Tsunade's feat of hearing Oro's heartbeat would matter anyway?
 

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Muu wins mid-high difficulty IMO.

The dude is very hax. The ability to completely erase his presence, fly to high altitudes and eradicate his target no matter their defence. Flight renders the three girls useless because the only long ranged techs they possess include, Mei's lava, her water dragons, acid mist, Katsuyu acid and shockwaves. Mei's lava and Katsuyu's acid don't have the momentum to go up high in the sky. Mei's acid mist also harms her team mates while Muu himself can escape from the mist altogether. Her water dragons are the biggest threat to Muu but being Onoki's superior, he should have the ability to use doton golems and other doton defences, not to mention that the weight and heaviness of Mei's suiton means that at long range, especially high in the air, they become easy to dodge and if Muu goes up very high, the water dragons will fall back down before even having a chance to hit Muu. Shockwaves are useless because they'd harm Mei while Muu's levitation allows him to avoid them with ease.

To top it all off, Muu's shown high level sensory abilities and reaction feats while the other team has none. Team 2 don't have the speed to dodge or defence to block/nullify jinton, they can't detect Muu, they can't hit Muu, they don't win.
 

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Wait, why didn't Tsunade hear Madara's heart beat when he was hiding beneath her in the tree and stabbed her?

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Let's say she can hear heart beats when concentrating, but then, we have no proper information on it.

- Which distance does it reach?
- Does she need to concentrate properly, what would disable her for fight? Since Shee, a sensor, said he wouldn't be able to fight properly while tracking someone.

So all this argument is invalid, since no proper information is given, we don't know how it would work during a real battle. Anything said here is fan fiction based on no facts.

/Discussion.
 

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Muu wins mid-high difficulty IMO.

The dude is very hax. The ability to completely erase his presence, fly to high altitudes and eradicate his target no matter their defence. Flight renders the three girls useless because the only long ranged techs they possess include, Mei's lava, her water dragons, acid mist, Katsuyu acid and shockwaves. Mei's lava and Katsuyu's acid don't have the momentum to go up high in the sky. Mei's acid mist also harms her team mates while Muu himself can escape from the mist altogether. Her water dragons are the biggest threat to Muu but being Onoki's superior, he should have the ability to use doton golems and other doton defences, not to mention that the weight and heaviness of Mei's suiton means that at long range, especially high in the air, they become easy to dodge and if Muu goes up very high, the water dragons will fall back down before even having a chance to hit Muu. Shockwaves are useless because they'd harm Mei while Muu's levitation allows him to avoid them with ease.

To top it all off, Muu's shown high level sensory abilities and reaction feats while the other team has none. Team 2 don't have the speed to dodge or defence to block/nullify jinton, they can't detect Muu, they can't hit Muu, they don't win.

So with all this said how is it mid high? mid diff at best
 

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Wait, why didn't Tsunade hear Madara's heart beat when he was hiding beneath her in the tree and stabbed her?

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Let's say she can hear heart beats when concentrating, but then, we have no proper information on it.

- Which distance does it reach?
- Does she need to concentrate properly, what would disable her for fight? Since Shee, a sensor, said he wouldn't be able to fight properly while tracking someone.

So all this argument is invalid, since no proper information is given, we don't know how it would work during a real battle. Anything said here is fan fiction based on no facts.

/Discussion.
Are you serious? Madara was an edo, not a living breathing human with a beating heart. However, I'm not sure why people keep on bringing this feat in this particular thread considering Tsunade hasn't shown acute hearing at ranges above 10 m.
So with all this said how is it mid high? mid diff at best
Muu has shown that when he splits, he uses up a lot of chakra to the extent he can't use jinton any more which means he can't spam jinton. Not to mention that they can constantly try stopping him from preparing jinton by having Tsunade throw Sakura at Muu and whatnot. Not saying it would work, but Muu is going to be hard pressed the entire time.
By portrayal Tsunade wins.
And then there is this guy.
 

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Are you serious? Madara was an edo, not a living breathing human with a beating heart. However, I'm not sure why people keep on bringing this feat in this particular thread considering Tsunade hasn't shown acute hearing at ranges above 10 m.

Muu has shown that when he splits, he uses up a lot of chakra to the extent he can't use jinton any more which means he can't spam jinton. Not to mention that they can constantly try stopping him from preparing jinton by having Tsunade throw Sakura at Muu and whatnot. Not saying it would work, but Muu is going to be hard pressed the entire time.

And then there is this guy.

Okay fair point but why would he need to split when he can fly sky high like you said, he wouldnt need to split, Jinton downwards should take them out
 

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Wait, why didn't Tsunade hear Madara's heart beat when he was hiding beneath her in the tree and stabbed her?

Gotcha.

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Let's say she can hear heart beats when concentrating, but then, we have no proper information on it.

- Which distance does it reach?
- Does she need to concentrate properly, what would disable her for fight? Since Shee, a sensor, said he wouldn't be able to fight properly while tracking someone.

So all this argument is invalid, since no proper information is given, we don't know how it would work during a real battle. Anything said here is fan fiction based on no facts.

/Discussion.

Ah that flawed. Since when do Edos have hearts?
 

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Regular heart beat 60-100bpm
Irregular heartbeat 100+ bpm (erratic!!!)

A regular heartbeat is slower and more steady, you should be arguing with me if you don't know what a regular heart beat is, unless your heartless and cant feel your own heart.

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Im discussing heart rate like its remotely changing the embarrassing outcome of this battle ¬__¬

that is too big to sig normally but ill find a way. Sakura didn't do this in the bell test and she was Tsunades deciple she pretty had knowledge on most if not all the things Tsuande knew in terms of medics. Notice how your the only one saying this?? find it kind of strage?? everyone cant be wrong
My average running heart rate is around 155 - 162. Is that erratic?

Erratic refers to the pattern of the heartbeat.. dugdug dug or dug dug dug.. these are patterns. Not the rate. Atleast get knowledge on that.

What is the difference between hearing a erratic heart beat and hearing a normal heart beat? The pattern. not the sound. The sound is still the same. Yet you seem to believe they make a different sound.

She didn't do it good for her. And who can say that she can do it right now? o_O i'm not saying that. Why bring someone up who hasn't shown it?

Listening to a heartbeat is not a medical technique.. are you people idiots or something?

Yea i find it strange that i'm the only one saying this, though this is in the manga itself. O_O .

Wait, why didn't Tsunade hear Madara's heart beat when he was hiding beneath her in the tree and stabbed her?

Gotcha.

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Let's say she can hear heart beats when concentrating, but then, we have no proper information on it.

- Which distance does it reach?
- Does she need to concentrate properly, what would disable her for fight? Since Shee, a sensor, said he wouldn't be able to fight properly while tracking someone.

So all this argument is invalid, since no proper information is given, we don't know how it would work during a real battle. Anything said here is fan fiction based on no facts.

/Discussion.

who set the distance? Why would Tsunade /Mei /Sakura fight out in the open?

Also, overrating the whole sensing crap.. is that why he got solo'd by base madara low-diff? Or the fact a non-sensor like the 2nd Mizukage killed him? what?

Did you just not see the post where i stated she could stand in one place and do it? what? oh wait your head was probably into muu's winning scenarios.


If this was Tobirama/Madara or some other Hokage you guys would be making retarded ass scenarios to give them the advantage. Hell Minato fans and Itachi fans would be coming up with excuses. And you lil fans would've gone with them.
 
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My average running heart rate is around 155 - 162. Is that erratic?

Erratic refers to the pattern of the heartbeat.. dugdug dug or dug dug dug.. these are patterns. Not the rate. Atleast get knowledge on that.

What is the difference between hearing a erratic heart beat and hearing a normal heart beat? The pattern. not the sound. The sound is still the same. Yet you seem to believe they make a different sound.

She didn't do it good for her. And who can say that she can do it right now? o_O i'm not saying that. Why bring someone up who hasn't shown it?

Listening to a heartbeat is not a medical technique.. are you people idiots or something?

Yea i find it strange that i'm the only one saying this, though this is in the manga itself. O_O .



who set the distance? Why would Tsunade /Mei /Sakura fight out in the open?

Also, overrating the whole sensing crap.. is that why he got solo'd by base madara low-diff? Or the fact a non-sensor like the 2nd Mizukage killed him? what?

Did you just not see the post where i stated she could stand in one place and do it? what? oh wait your head was probably into muu's winning scenarios.


If this was Tobirama/Madara or some other Hokage you guys would be making retarded ass scenarios to give them the advantage. Hell Minato fans and Itachi fans would be coming up with excuses. And you lil fans would've gone with them.

Bold: Thats irregular -__- didnt read the rest, debating something completely pointless with minimal evidence it would be of use in a battle and what its specific strengths and weaknesses are.
 

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Bold: Thats irregular -__- didnt read the rest, debating something completely pointless with minimal evidence it would be of use in a battle and what its specific strengths and weaknesses are.

welp i gave proof to what i said, your excuses really mean nothing to me. rofl.

Don't start arguments without backin up yourself next time. And stop getting hurt over other's opinions brah.

if someone claims 3 Kage level females can beat a Kage level ninja who got fodderized base Madara who isn't a sensor.. they aren't stupid. They are obviously thinking also.

I know the bold is irregular.... o_O, you clearly didn't know since you were saying fast heart RATE is irregular heart BEAT
 
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