Why Kurama is a part of Madara's power

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The difference is Kurama is forced to fight for Madara. Ma and Pa happily fight for Naruto.

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This is whats bothering me about what everyone on here has said about forcing the 9 tails to fight for him thats why it's not his power. Is everyone forgetting that the 9 tails has only recently befriended naruto and before he was basically leaching off of the 9 tails chakra. The 9 tail was forced into Kushina's body then forced into naruto's body i believe he was cursing the 4th hokage name as he was being sealed. The 9 tails tried numerous time to take over naruto's body so he could escape his prison . This entire time there has been countless threads counting this kidnaped party as Naruto's own power. Naruto went so far as to use his mom, and b to take power from the 9 tails and use it to his own end(which is similar to putting him under genjutsu to use his power). And summons are summonds so yes its apart of obito's power as because if it wasn't sealedin naruto Obito would be able to summon it at will like madara...the power of the uchiha
 

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well ................. i think it's matter of prospective.

first of all, Kurama is a tailed beast so that makes him different from all the other animal summons.

second, he didn't willingly make a contract with Madara/didn't choose to lend his power (force control/Genjutsu), which would limit Madara's capabilities/usage of the Kyuubi. Naruto on the other hand has Kurama on his side/working with him to make the best of his chakra (special chakra modes/chemistry fighting together) plus being a jin helps.

and third, considering Kurama as Madara's summon might not be very accurate because summoning him depends on the situation/circumstances example :

he wasn't able to summon Kurama because he was inside a host and this limitation does NOT exist with the traditional animal summons.

i don't like to count temporary powers as part of the characters arsenal :yeah: simply because it's TEMPORARY/needs preparation/depends on the circumstances.
I agree with this.

This is whats bothering me about what everyone on here has said about forcing the 9 tails to fight for him thats why it's not his power. Is everyone forgetting that the 9 tails has only recently befriended naruto and before he was basically leaching off of the 9 tails chakra. The 9 tail was forced into Kushina's body then forced into naruto's body i believe he was cursing the 4th hokage name as he was being sealed. The 9 tails tried numerous time to take over naruto's body so he could escape his prison . This entire time there has been countless threads counting this kidnaped party as Naruto's own power. Naruto went so far as to use his mom, and b to take power from the 9 tails and use it to his own end(which is similar to putting him under genjutsu to use his power). And summons are summonds so yes its apart of obito's power as because if it wasn't sealedin naruto Obito would be able to summon it at will like madara...the power of the uchiha
The post above makes a lot of sense. You do know that Naruto never force Kurama to give him chakra, Kurama wanted to give Naruto chakra because it weakened the seal so your argument there is invalid. Even though Kurama had his own reasons for giving Naruto chakra, he still did it of his own free will, it was Naruto who would lose his will when Kurama took over. Bee did 1 thing, caught a tbb and nothing else, Kushina did nothing but stopped Kurama so she can pause the fight and talk to her son, after feeling the love of his mom, he beat Kurama then went back to talking to his mom.

Wrong, To be apart of their power, they must be able to use or access that power when they want on their own free will. Hashirama took Kurama from Madara and Kurama became apart of Hashirama's power. Hashirama had Bijuu 2-9 under his control while the 1 tail belonged to the Sand village. Orochimaru even said Hashirama had the power to control Bijuu's will back when he we first see him in Shippuden (before Naruto went tails). Minato used contract seal to free Kurama from Obito so both Madara and Obito had Kurama taken from them.

Kurama was apart of their power but not anymore. When talking about EMS Madara and Hashirama, Hashirama would have Kurama since he took it from Madara. Is Obito's eye apart of Kakashi's power? Yes because he can access it when he wants but if he lose it, is it still apart of his power? No. Same thing applys, Summons are tools that ninjas use, if you lose that tool then you can't use it anymore.
 
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