Why Kurama is a part of Madara's power

[Tonybeeth]

Why are Ma and Pa, and all other frogs on myobokuzan considered as Jiraiya's and Naruto's power; The Ninja dogs are also considered Kakashi's power; Katsuyu is considered Tsunade's and Sakura's power. Every ninja's summon is considered a part of his/her powers. Madara is able to summon the kyuubi at will without having to tame it with his eyes, but when he tried it before fighting the kages, it was impossible because the kyuubi was SEALED. If a summoning is sealed, it is impossible for it to be summoned like in the case of the hokages sealed within the Shikifuujin. Just the same way Oro was unable to summon Minato because of the seal during his fight with Hiruzen, that's how Madara is unable to summon the kyuubi. Some may say that there was no contract made, Yes that's true, just like in the case of edotensei, you need no contract with the person to summon his soul, just a part of his corpse. In this same way Madara, probably with some jutsu is able to summon the kyuubi at will. So, one can say that the kyuubi is also Madara's summon, in the same way with the frogs to Naruto and Jiraiya, Katsuyu to Tsunade and Sakura and so on.

So when rating any form of Madara, (EMS, Rinnegan, Edo, etc) note that without the kyuubi, he's not at full power.

 

[rakitha]

no sure dude

 

[The Sach]

Kurama is tailed beast, and that's what makes him different from other summoning.
Kurama requires to be kept under control/genjutsu continuously, summoning doesn't need to be kept under genjutsu that way.
And hence Kurama isn't part of Madara's power, because he need to keep it under genjutsu to use it's power.

 

[Fighter2011]

You are definitely right. Keep up the good work

 

[Fighter2011]

Kurama is tailed beast, and that's what makes him different from other summoning.
Kurama requires to be kept under control/genjutsu continuously, summoning doesn't need to be kept under genjutsu that way.
And hence Kurama isn't part of Madara's power, because he need to keep it under genjutsu to use it's power.

It's part of madara's Power to summon and control the tailed beasts.

 

[Derek1st]

Free will. I was gonna make a huge thread about this tomorrow. Trust me, kurama isn't part of his power

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

It's part of madara's Power to summon and control the tailed beasts.

I agree !!!!!!!!!

 

[Xāvî1]

nope kurama is only narutos power

 

[sasukekingofuchiha]

Why are Ma and Pa, and all other frogs on myobokuzan considered as Jiraiya's and Naruto's power; The Ninja dogs are also considered Kakashi's power; Katsuyu is considered Tsunade's and Sakura's power. Every ninja's summon is considered a part of his/her powers. Madara is able to summon the kyuubi at will without having to tame it with his eyes, but when he tried it before fighting the kages, it was impossible because the kyuubi was SEALED. If a summoning is sealed, it is impossible for it to be summoned like in the case of the hokages sealed within the Shikifuujin. Just the same way Oro was unable to summon Minato because of the seal during his fight with Hiruzen, that's how Madara is unable to summon the kyuubi. Some may say that there was no contract made, Yes that's true, just like in the case of edotensei, you need no contract with the person to summon his soul, just a part of his corpse. In this same way Madara, probably with some jutsu is able to summon the kyuubi at will. So, one can say that the kyuubi is also Madara's summon, in the same way with the frogs to Naruto and Jiraiya, Katsuyu to Tsunade and Sakura and so on.

So when rating any form of Madara, (EMS, Rinnegan, Edo, etc) note that without the kyuubi, he's not at full power.

uhh tf no lol dude what are you talking about madaras power you forget obito did the same thing its nothing but a summoning jutsu lol
thread ended

 

[Ganta]

Free will. I was gonna make a huge thread about this tomorrow. Trust me, kurama isn't part of his power

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

I dont understand, whats the point of this thread?
Of course a summoning is apart of your "power" why wouldnt it be, unless someone puts a contract seal on you like minato or you cant summon the creature or thing for some reason(s).
C'mon this stuff is self-explanatory

 

[6ari8]

Not really...

When a summon dies that means it is no longer a part of the user's power, just that it used to be at one time in the past. Same case here with Madara.

Should Manda still be considered a part of Orochimaru's power, even though it's dead?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

well ................. i think it's matter of prospective.

first of all, Kurama is a tailed beast so that makes him different from all the other animal summons.

second, he didn't willingly make a contract with Madara/didn't choose to lend his power (force control/Genjutsu), which would limit Madara's capabilities/usage of the Kyuubi. Naruto on the other hand has Kurama on his side/working with him to make the best of his chakra (special chakra modes/chemistry fighting together) plus being a jin helps.

and third, considering Kurama as Madara's summon might not be very accurate because summoning him depends on the situation/circumstances example :

he wasn't able to summon Kurama because he was inside a host and this limitation does NOT exist with the traditional animal summons.

i don't like to count temporary powers as part of the characters arsenal :yeah: simply because it's TEMPORARY/needs preparation/depends on the circumstances.

 

[Meee]

The Kyuubi doesn't belong to shit, HIS power is HIS power, Same applies to Summons and Edos.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I suppose by that logic, Konan is part of pain's power.

 

[edwinblack]

Madara can still summon the 9tails, just not control it unless he puts it back under genjutsu. Cuz when he tried to summon it, the 9tails knew and Naruto's seal burned, that means there is still a connection between the 2. Naruto summoned Chief Toad the 1st time with no contract but couldnt control him. Minato's teleportation formulas last forever, so does Madara's and summoning is a type of transportation.

 

[edwinblack]

Of course Madara isnt able to summon the 9 tails atm because as some else stated already "the 9tails is sealed with a sealing formula". If that seal was removed Madara should be able to summon the Kuyybi at his own leisure..

 

[psukkar]

Why are Ma and Pa, and all other frogs on myobokuzan considered as Jiraiya's and Naruto's power; The Ninja dogs are also considered Kakashi's power; Katsuyu is considered Tsunade's and Sakura's power. Every ninja's summon is considered a part of his/her powers. Madara is able to summon the kyuubi at will without having to tame it with his eyes, but when he tried it before fighting the kages, it was impossible because the kyuubi was SEALED. If a summoning is sealed, it is impossible for it to be summoned like in the case of the hokages sealed within the Shikifuujin. Just the same way Oro was unable to summon Minato because of the seal during his fight with Hiruzen, that's how Madara is unable to summon the kyuubi. Some may say that there was no contract made, Yes that's true, just like in the case of edotensei, you need no contract with the person to summon his soul, just a part of his corpse. In this same way Madara, probably with some jutsu is able to summon the kyuubi at will. So, one can say that the kyuubi is also Madara's summon, in the same way with the frogs to Naruto and Jiraiya, Katsuyu to Tsunade and Sakura and so on.

So when rating any form of Madara, (EMS, Rinnegan, Edo, etc) note that without the kyuubi, he's not at full power.

the last I saw jiraiya and Naruto don't put their summons under genjutsu and force them to help them.

do I have to say this is a noob post or not? I gonna give u break and say ur trolling.

 

[Kurama2012]

its not apart of his power as he can't summon kyuubi at will as he has a jinchuuriki its like how samahada is no longer kisames power as its killer bees now

 

[salamander uchiha]

Kurama is tailed beast, and that's what makes him different from other summoning.
Kurama requires to be kept under control/genjutsu continuously, summoning doesn't need to be kept under genjutsu that way.
And hence Kurama isn't part of Madara's power, because he need to keep it under genjutsu to use it's power.

a summon is power wether you use control of it or not. that depends upon your skill level.
and mezo is also a part of his power.