tsunade is not top10? ...really

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Pretty sure 2 of 3 sannins considered Minato as an unparalled shinobi.

Jiraiya was the one who hyped him the most. His STUDENT. Of course he'd do that. I just don't see Minato beating Jiraiya. :D
Minato has his speed and a barrier to suck huge attacks.
His speed can be dealt with.

But these are only opinions.
 

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Tsunade could fit top 15 in my opinion.
But I don't think Minato and Tobirama belong in top 10 either. Nor Itachi. :| Their skill level is not higher than the skill level of sannin.

wait, so itachi casually solo'd the strongest sannin and The remaining 2 sannin and a hokage all claimed inferiority to minato, but somehow their skill is less than sannin?

LoL
 

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wait, so itachi casually solo'd the strongest sannin and The remaining 2 sannin and a hokage all claimed inferiority to minato, but somehow their skill is less than sannin?

LoL

By Bantos logic, yes.
 

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Jiraiya was the one who hyped him the most. His STUDENT. Of course he'd do that. I just don't see Minato beating Jiraiya. :D
Minato has his speed and a barrier to suck huge attacks.
His speed can be dealt with.

But these are only opinions.
don't bash Minato?
 

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don't bash Minato?

I'm not bashing Minato. I'm not just treating him like a God in his flawlesness.

wait, so itachi casually solo'd the strongest sannin and The remaining 2 sannin and a hokage all claimed inferiority to minato, but somehow their skill is less than sannin?

LoL

Did I say less? No.
Did Tsunade admit inferiority? No. I do know Tsunade would lose against Itachi, because of amaterasu and tsukuyomi. But are those really skills he has worked for or actually had to train for them? No. He just had to feel sad and then he can just look everywhere and watch everything BURN. How fun. And cool. :|
 

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I'm not bashing Minato. I'm not just treating him like a God in his flawlesness.



Did I say less? No.
Did Tsunade admit inferiority? No. I do know Tsunade would lose against Itachi, because of amaterasu and tsukuyomi. But are those really skills he has worked for or actually had to train for them? No. He just had to feel sad and then he can just look everywhere and watch everything BURN. How fun. And cool. :|

rofl. Itachi kills her without that. Speed is better. shuriken skills better. has shadow clones. smarter. better ninjutsu.
All of those are skills he worked for. he'd solo tsunade low diff with a genjutsu + katon combo.

I like how you pretend you know how itachi fights. call me when you find the scan where itachi used amaterasu/tsukuyomi on orochimaru/deidara yea? Apparently, by NB logic, itachi only ever uses those 2 abilities.
 

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rofl. Itachi kills her without that. Speed is better. shuriken skills better. has shadow clones. smarter. better ninjutsu.
All of those are skills he worked for. he'd solo tsunade low diff with a genjutsu + katon combo.

I like how you pretend you know how itachi fights. call me when you find the scan where itachi used amaterasu/tsukuyomi on orochimaru/deidara yea? Apparently, by NB logic, itachi only ever uses those 2 abilities.

Without amaterasu and tsukuyomi Itachi loses. You seriously underestimate Tsunade or seriously overestimate Itachi.
Amaterau and tsukuyomi are the only skills he has to take Tsunade down. :|
 

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Jiraiya was the one who hyped him the most. His STUDENT. Of course he'd do that. I just don't see Minato beating Jiraiya. :D
Minato has his speed and a barrier to suck huge attacks.
His speed can be dealt with.

But these are only opinions.
Tsunade agreed with every statement of Jiraya about and even 3rd their own teacher admitted that Minato is strong enough to take on Oro,we barely know anything about that guy yet he is already a top 10 material.

Regardless of Jman's hype Minato already proved that he is a top 10 material.
 

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Tsunade agreed with every statement of Jiraya about and even 3rd their own teacher admitted that Minato is strong enough to take on Oro,we barely know anything about that guy yet he is already a top 10 material.

Regardless of Jman's hype Minato already proved that he is a top 10 material.

Tsunade and Jiraiya are both strong enough to take down Orochimaru. Orochimaru is also strong enough to take down Tsunade and Jiraiya.
Also I seriously don't see how Minato actually could defeat Orochimaru. Only way is to make Orochimaru run out of chakra.

I meant that between the sannin and Minato there's not really that much difference in skill level. Anyone of the three could kill eachother. Itachi falls in the same category.
 

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Without amaterasu and tsukuyomi Itachi loses. You seriously underestimate Tsunade or seriously overestimate Itachi.
Amaterau and tsukuyomi are the only skills he has to take Tsunade down. :|

Lmao. Lol
You don't even know tsunade's abilities yourself. Repeated burns with katon jutsu are enough to drain her entire byakugo pool. Itachi's normal genjutsu is all that's required to hypnotize tsunade and cut off her hands.
 

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Lmao. Lol
You don't even know tsunade's abilities yourself. Repeated burns with katon jutsu are enough to drain her entire byakugo pool. Itachi's normal genjutsu is all that's required to hypnotize tsunade and cut off her hands.

Itachi can't keep doing his katons all the time. His stamina sucks. Also, what makes you think Tsunade is just going to run in to every fire she sees? :D Tsunade laughs at that genjutsu. She has one of the best chakra controls. Even Naruto could fight the genjutsu a little. Itachi even commented on that.
You obviously underestimate Tsunade's byakugo. And her other skills. She's just going to stand there and wait for the flames.
 

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Tsunade is fodder. Sasori or Deidara solo her. And so does Hebi Sasuke.

Stop trying to squeeze sasori into everything. An old woman and a weaker version of Tsunade pushed him high diff and won, and no it was his choice to do what he did at the end, so they still won. Tsunade stomps. Queen of elixirs bby <3

p.s: don't bother starting up a vs thread, the public won't do it for me with their opinion. Because well you know its just an opinion.

Ot: Those feats don't earn you a top 10 with those top dogs already there.
 
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Itachi can't keep doing his katons all the time. His stamina sucks. Also, what makes you think Tsunade is just going to run in to every fire she sees? :D Tsunade laughs at that genjutsu. She has one of the best chakra controls. Even Naruto could fight the genjutsu a little. Itachi even commented on that.
You obviously underestimate Tsunade's byakugo. And her other skills. She's just going to stand there and wait for the flames.

Run into? So, you think itachi's going to fire them a mile away where he misses?
Itachi can fire off quite a few katons in fact. Katons + shuriken is enough abuse on her healing. All he does is keep tossing shuriken at her blind spots.

That was basic finger genjutsu that naruto still couldn't break. Sharingan genjutsu is far harder to break seeing as even sasuke and his sharingan had problems so... no.
 

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Lmao. Lol
You don't even know tsunade's abilities yourself. Repeated burns with katon jutsu are enough to drain her entire byakugo pool. Itachi's normal genjutsu is all that's required to hypnotize tsunade and cut off her hands.

She doesn't win but just for asking sake. Why do we assume katon drains her quickly when we only saw her handle a katon attack late game and to run out right after. Remembering they fought for quite a while even to the point it was night time?

Also she was going to take Madara's first katon at her head on but mei intercepted it for her but yeah. I know burns are more to heal but i doubt the vast reserves in the seal would go down to easily, not to mention she has capabilities of dodging, not because she has byakugou means she would try to take everything without even an attempt to minimize damage. That's just how i see it.
 

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Without amaterasu and tsukuyomi Itachi loses. You seriously underestimate Tsunade or seriously overestimate Itachi.
Amaterau and tsukuyomi are the only skills he has to take Tsunade down. :|

Lol he still wins :I
 

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She doesn't win but just for asking sake. Why do we assume katon drains her quickly when we only saw her handle a katon attack late game and to run out right after. Remembering they fought for quite a while even to the point it was night time?

Also she was going to take Madara's first katon at her head on but mei intercepted it for her but yeah. I know burns are more to heal but i doubt the vast reserves in the seal would go down to easily, not to mention she has capabilities of dodging, not because she has byakugou means she would try to take everything without even an attempt to minimize damage. That's just how i see it.
The key word is repeated. I never stated a sole katon.
Each burn of katon means a shit ton of cells to repair which means massive amounts of chakra gone right there.

against itachi, dodging is a luxury considering he fools people with genjutsu then launches attacks so they'd be more successful.
 

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Tsunade and Jiraiya are both strong enough to take down Orochimaru. Orochimaru is also strong enough to take down Tsunade and Jiraiya.
Also I seriously don't see how Minato actually could defeat Orochimaru. Only way is to make Orochimaru run out of chakra.

I meant that between the sannin and Minato there's not really that much difference in skill level. Anyone of the three could kill eachother. Itachi falls in the same category.

Difference b/w the skills of Itachi/Minato and Sannin is that if there is a battle b/w 2 sannin we can't decide the winner that easily but in case of Itachi/Minato vs a Sannin,Itachi/Minato'll be the winner.
 

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The key word is repeated. I never stated a sole katon.
Each burn of katon means a shit ton of cells to repair which means massive amounts of chakra gone right there.

against itachi, dodging is a luxury considering he fools people with genjutsu then launches attacks so they'd be more successful.

I see, I was referring to katon attacks in general just to clarify not from itachi specifically. But i get you.
 
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