What you REALLY need for the Rinnegan.

[Mitarashi]

I find it hard to believe that all you need to awaken the legendary ocular jutsu, the Rinnegan, is Senju and Uchiha DNA.
It's entirely too unreasonable to believe that A Senju and an Uchiha never had a child after the formation of the Hidden leaf village, and even when Obito explains the SO6P 's blood line to Naruto ect this image is shown

You must be registered for see images

( On the left, The Uchiha, and on the right the Senju. You can see that they have "Mingled" at some stages )

Even thought you'll say " Anime isn't canon" it's bound to have happened at some point, and they didn't obtain the Rinnegan..

What I believe you need to obtain the Rinnegan is the Senju's will of fire, combined with the Curse of hatred. Madara was able to obtain the Rinnegan as he had inherited the Curse of hatred, but due to the fact that he USE to carry a "Will of fire" or that he stole Hashirama's DNA ( And had a freaking face on his chest ) he was able to awaken the Rinnegan.

I know this seems a bit far-fetched, but I don't see how after all those years, no Uchiha/Senju couples sired a Rinnegan wielding Child, but the fact remains that any Uchiha with the Curse of Hatred ( Madara mainly ) and any Senju with the Will of Fire ( most of them, at this point ) wouldn't want to communicate lol, and thus the rinnegan is very rare.

 

[The Necromancer]

Your flaw is in the first paragraph. You don't just need any old Senju DNA and any old Uchiha DNA. You need the EMS, and Hashirama's DNA.

That alone makes it one of the hardest upgrades to achieve ever.

 

[villain55]

I thought it was:
Sugar
Spice
and Everything nice?

 

[China IL]

Madara made it really clear of what was needed to be able to horness the great eye that is Rinnegan.

 

[Mitarashi]

Your flaw is in the first paragraph. You don't just need any old Senju DNA and any old Uchiha DNA. You need the EMS, and Hashirama's DNA.

That alone makes it one of the hardest upgrades to achieve ever.

EMS And Hashirama's DNA?
So you're telling me, that to Obtain the Original Eye, you need the eye that was developed AFTER that, and the DNA of the Sages Great, great, great, great grandson?
Lel.
Just because it worked for Madz with this, doesn't mean it's the only way, in face, we could just say you need 2 people with a certain hair style and have as much logic as that, since " They are the only 2 with that hair style, and it worked for them".

 

[The Necromancer]

EMS And Hashirama's DNA?
So you're telling me, that to Obtain the Original Eye, you need the eye that was developed AFTER that, and the DNA of the Sages Great, great, great, great grandson?
Lel.
Just because it worked for Madz with this, doesn't mean it's the only way, in face, we could just say you need 2 people with a certain hair style and have as much logic as that, since " They are the only 2 with that hair style, and it worked for them".

By your logic Obito and Danzo should have the Rinnegan as well. It's pretty obvious.

A hell of a lot more plausible than a man bringing 2 ideals together to develop a mystical eye... :|

 

[Mitarashi]

By your logic Obito and Danzo should have the Rinnegan as well. It's pretty obvious.

Obito didn't Harbour the curse of hatred, he's not a TRUE avenger. He turned soft at the end. He was just a puppet .-.
( AND HE DID HAVE A RINNEGAN AHEHEHE )

Danzou couldn't harness the power of Hashirama's cells, And just because he had some Sharingan doesn't mean he had anything to do with the Curse of hatred, espically since Shisui ( Where he got his MS ) was about as far from the Curse of hatred as they come...

 

[Seventh Sama]

Kinda agree with your thread, But you need ems, senju dna, and near death experience.

 

[Lamb]

It's not as easy as grabbing two average shinobi from Senju and Uchiha and combining their physical gifts. It needs EMS and Hashirama's DNA, the pinnacle of their respective clan's potential. Their powers are so potent, they were the only once to come close to the Uchiha and Senju ancestors.

 

[The Necromancer]

It's not as easy as grabbing two average shinobi from Senju and Uchiha and combining their physical gifts. It needs EMS and Hashirama's DNA, the pinnacle of their respective clan's potential. Their powers are so potent, they were the only once to come close to the Uchiha and Senju ancestors.

Exactly this.

 

[Mitarashi]

By your logic Obito and Danzo should have the Rinnegan as well. It's pretty obvious.

A hell of a lot more plausible than a man bringing 2 ideals together to develop a mystical eye... :|

Did you just apply Logic and probability to a Manga.

It's not as easy as grabbing two average shinobi from Senju and Uchiha and combining their physical gifts. It needs EMS and Hashirama's DNA, the pinnacle of their respective clan's potential. Their powers are so potent, they were the only once to come close to the Uchiha and Senju ancestors.

Hashirama was the man behind the "Will of Fire". He was also the Only Mokuton user, so it's more than likely that had something to do with it aswell, and Any EMS Uchiha devolpes a curse of hatred for one reason or another.. They love too much and they need their brothers eyes? .-.?

 

[The Necromancer]

Did you just apply Logic and probability to a Manga.



Hashirama was the man behind the "Will of Fire". He was also the Only Mokuton user, so it's more than likely that had something to do with it aswell, and Any EMS Uchiha devolpes a curse of hatred for one reason or another.. They love too much and they need their brothers eyes? .-.?

Face it. Obito had MS and Hashi DNA (a hell of a lot more than even Madara) for 18 years all throughout his quest to end the world, and even Madara knew he wouldn't awaken the Rinnegan.

 

[God of TryHards]

I was sure it was mentioned somewhere in the manga (by kabuto I think) that the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the Sharingan. So...3tomoe>MS>EMS>Rinnegan. Each level with its own set of requirements to unlock.

Best just stick with the statement that you need the eternal eye (EMS) before you can start trying to upgrade. Just read the manga and you'll have your answer. No sense in thinking outside the manga. Just wastes brain cells haha

 

[Deadboy]

I was sure it was mentioned somewhere in the manga (by kabuto I think) that the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the Sharingan. So...3tomoe>MS>EMS>Rinnegan. Each level with its own set of requirements to unlock.

Best just stick with the statement that you need the eternal eye (EMS) before you can start trying to upgrade. Just read the manga and you'll have your answer. No sense in thinking outside the manga. Just wastes brain cells haha

I remember the manga saying that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan. Why haven't we seen any Byakugan users develop the Sharingan? What about the spiral eye that the Older Son was born with, where does that fit in?

 

[Xāvî1]

I find it hard to believe that all you need to awaken the legendary ocular jutsu, the Rinnegan, is Senju and Uchiha DNA.
It's entirely too unreasonable to believe that A Senju and an Uchiha never had a child after the formation of the Hidden leaf village, and even when Obito explains the SO6P 's blood line to Naruto ect this image is shown

You must be registered for see images

( On the left, The Uchiha, and on the right the Senju. You can see that they have "Mingled" at some stages )

Even thought you'll say " Anime isn't canon" it's bound to have happened at some point, and they didn't obtain the Rinnegan..

What I believe you need to obtain the Rinnegan is the Senju's will of fire, combined with the Curse of hatred. Madara was able to obtain the Rinnegan as he had inherited the Curse of hatred, but due to the fact that he USE to carry a "Will of fire" or that he stole Hashirama's DNA ( And had a freaking face on his chest ) he was able to awaken the Rinnegan.

I know this seems a bit far-fetched, but I don't see how after all those years, no Uchiha/Senju couples sired a Rinnegan wielding Child, but the fact remains that any Uchiha with the Curse of Hatred ( Madara mainly ) and any Senju with the Will of Fire ( most of them, at this point ) wouldn't want to communicate lol, and thus the rinnegan is very rare.

Nah you need uchiha cum and senju p**** = boy or girl born with rinnegan eyes simple as that.

 

[Byron123]

I have made a theory about that, take a look:

You must be registered for see links

 

[KidGamer65]

lol, since when did ideals let you awaken the Rinnegan? Its already stated what lets you get it. Senju and Uchiha's power, though you probably need the height of both clan's powers to get Rinnnegan....and that would be EMS and Hashirama's DNA.

 

[Transcendence]

Incorrect, although a valiant assertion and thought.

The Rin'negan stems from the Juubi entirely, and the Juubi (Shinju) is the source of all chakra and as such, also the peak of Yin and Yang properties. The Sage was born from Kaguya who had the essence of the Juubi within her, and passed it on to him. His sons are half of him each, and have the Juubi's Yin and Yang. They had obscenely powerful chakra on both ends of the spectrum, so reconvening the bloodline with just any ordinary Senju and Uchiha wouldn't work. You would need the peak of the Uchiha (An Uchiha with the Eien No Mangekyou with a massive amount of supplementing Yin chakra) and the peak of the Senju (A Senju with indomitable life force; and in the case of Senju Hashirama, his abilities are practically identical to that of the Shinju). ​

 

[Element Master]

the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the Sharingan. So...3tomoe>MS>EMS>Rinnegan. Each level with its own set of requirements to unlock.

your < signs are facing the wrong way
3tomoe<MS<EMS<Rinnegan

 

[God of TryHards]

I remember the manga saying that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan. Why haven't we seen any Byakugan users develop the Sharingan? What about the spiral eye that the Older Son was born with, where does that fit in?

Well the last time the Byakugan and Sharingan were mentioned, was in the beginning of the series. So one can only speculate. From the information we were given, the Sharingan is a mutation from the Byakugan. Simply put, the blood line divided or thinned at some extent. Both users are essentially their own branch which is attached to the Elder Son. So both eye techniques are unique, and are not a part of any sort of transformation.

As for the Elder Son, we still have no idea what the deal is with his eyes. There is absolutely nothing to go off of. I mean, it's weird that an Uchia can obtain a Rinnegan like the So6P, but doesn't unlock anything the Elder Son had. I would like to think in my own opinion that there is a way of unlocking the Elder's eyes which have a different set of requirements. This way Sasuke has a chance of unlocking those eyes since Rinnegan isn't much of a shock factor anymore.

With Rinnegan you need a mix of Senju/Uchia DNA in order to be capable of possessing/unlocking it, with of course a near death experience.

Now with Sasuke, he is a proud Uchia and people believe it doesn't fit his character to obtain Senju DNA.

So, what if his next upgrade is the Elder's eyes? So since he is pure Uchia blood and no Senju DNA, he would unlock the Elder's eyes which is different variation of the Rinnegan. So it could be possible that with a near death experience with EMS could cause a natural evolution to the Elder's eyes due to his pure (Uchia blood) and not a mix of 2 blood types.

Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, I'm only phone at work