Tsunade, Shizune and Sakura vs Hiashi

[Keimil]

No but I'm sure he was still 13. But believe what you want I suppose.

Why are you so sure? Why people have to believe that?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It's not clear how much time passed before he killed his clan and how much he stayed in Akatsuki before Orochimaru try to gain his body, right?



The reason is that Sakura finished her seal, so she doesn't have to store chakra anymore, now she can use all her chakra and her focus to perform this kind of attack:

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The point of me providing that scan was to show you how CES work.

I guess. I can find many flaws in that op punch (like how a juubi clone got the drop on her even though every clone in the immediate area is supposed to be dead... or how she takes no damage even though she's at the epicenter..) but that's for a different day. Chances are him thrusting his hand forward is quicker than her bending down to punch the floor anyways, and in the off chance she does punch the ground first the shockwave of her punch will collide with the wave of his air palm. He won't take any damage.

 

[Murasame]

Why are you so sure? Why people have to believe that?

Because there's no evidence of Itachi joining years later.

 

[Keimil]

I guess. I can find many flaws in that op punch (like how a juubi clone got the drop on her even though every clone in the immediate area is supposed to be dead... or how she takes no damage even though she's at the epicenter..) but that's for a different day. Chances are him thrusting his hand forward is quicker than her bending down to punch the floor anyways, and in the off chance she does punch the ground first the shockwave of her punch will collide with the wave of his air palm. He won't take any damage.

All the stuff that you said have nothing to do with what we were previously discussing.

(like how a juubi clone got the drop on her even though every clone in the immediate area is supposed to be dead...

I didn't understand this, I tried to translate it to my native language and didn't make it any clearer to me...

or how she takes no damage even though she's at the epicenter..) but that's for a different day.

The fact that Sakura remains unharmed is something I cannot explain to you, maybe Kishi can, but this a fact in Naruto and shouldn't be doubted by anyone since we have a lot of feats proving this during the manga.

Chances are him thrusting his hand forward is quicker than her bending down to punch the floor anyways, and in the off chance she does punch the ground first the shockwave of her punch will collide with the wave of his air palm. He won't take any damage.

I doubt it, I found it really unlikely actually, but whatever... Byakugou can tank that skill easily, A clone with 30% of Kisame's chakra tanked Air Palm Directly from Neji, Byakugou got this big time....

Because there's no evidence of Itachi joining years later.

No, but no evidence indicates it all happened all in the same month neither, and still i don't believe so... Also you forgot about the time he spent with Orochimaru as a teammate, in Akatsuki, before he decided to betray him... That's not clear either...

 

[Murasame]

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No, but no evidence indicates it all happened all in the same month neither, and still i don't believe so... Also you forgot about the time he spent with Orochimaru as a teammate, in Akatsuki, before he decided to betray him... That's not clear either...

Well I'm sure enough that he was in below 17-18 years of age when it happened because in part 1 he was listed to be that age.
Also he knew of Tobi who was thought to be Madara when he was 13 so I see no reason why he wouldn't join shortly to keep an eye on him.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Team 1 takes it low diff. Hiashi is so overrated to a point people are calling him low-mid kage. Hiashi isn't pushing Tsunade, an arguable mid kage level ninja, Sakura, a high jounin, and a mid jounin to mid diff when Hiashi is a high jounin-low kage level ninja at the most. He can't keep up with 3 other highly skilled ninja at once

 

[Joshutsu]

Team one babyshakes...... don't even need to use all 3....

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lmao I hope you realize Hokage doesn't get chosen solely on strength. By that logic Tsunade is stronger than Naruto, Kakashi, and Jiraiya (when he was alive).

Again use titles lmao Being a Sannin sure did save Orochimaru from getting defeated with by a 13 year old (somewhere around that age) Itachi who only used little of his power to make him flee.

I'm not saying Hiashi wins but your arguments are bad.. almost like KingHashirama.

Actually that's exactly what happens... ALL Kages are the respective strongest person in the village...

Tsunade was the strongest at the time because Jiraiya declined. kakashi nor naruto were no where near tsunade's level at that point. For that matter, an IC kakashi is still well below Tsunade; It's only naruto who surpassed her at around the time he got KCM... maybe BM. Considering her Byakugo, she should be able to compete with a KCM naruto; but that's a discussion for another time. EDIT: Don't take my word for it because i haven't thought this through.

Shit logic or not, if Hiashi was stronger he'd have been selected in stead of Tsunade. Tsunade is Hokage, so that automatically makes her stronger than Hiashi. End of story. We don't even need to think of a fight to see who wins.

But if you're not happy with this, then Byakogu, Tsunade's strength ends Hiashi. She's a Sannin, she can easily beat a Hyuuga.

That's assuming hyuuga can even be chosen as hokage. With all the main/branch family politics of the hyuuga clan, I wouldn't be surprised if it was forbidden for them to be chosen for hokage.

 

[Keimil]

Well I'm sure enough that he was in below 17-18 years of age when it happened because in part 1 he was listed to be that age.

That doesn't make your opinion a fact, sorry, has nothing to do with it.

Also he knew of Tobi who was thought to be Madara when he was 13 so I see no reason why he wouldn't join shortly to keep an eye on him.

Really? Where was that stated? Even if it's true you still have to prove the period that Itachi spent with Orochimaru as teammates in Akatsuki.

 

[Shura]

What in the actual hell is going on here? Why did the topic change to Itachi when he has absolutely nothing to do with this thread or are you people debating Tsunade versus Itachi or some shit? Keep in mind that I didn't bother to read about two full pages in order to find out.

@On-Topic. Team one wins.​

 

[Murasame]

Actually that's exactly what happens... ALL Kages are the respective strongest person in the village...

Tsunade was the strongest at the time because Jiraiya declined. kakashi nor naruto were no where near tsunade's level at that point. For that matter, an IC kakashi is still well below Tsunade; It's only naruto who surpassed her at around the time he got KCM... maybe BM. Considering her Byakugo, she should be able to compete with a KCM naruto; but that's a discussion for another time. EDIT: Don't take my word for it because i haven't thought this through.

*sigh* Don't butt in if you don't really know what my point is.

That doesn't make your opinion a fact, sorry, has nothing to do with it.

Really? Where was that stated? Even if it's true you still have to prove the period that Itachi spent with Orochimaru as teammates in Akatsuki.

It's my opinion that he was listed to be 17-18 in part 1 Naruto?
Unless you believe that Itachi defeated Orochimaru during Part 1 then idk lmfao.

Why don't you go look yourself? I'm tired of looking for info for you.

What in the actual hell is going on here? Why did the topic change to Itachi when he has absolutely nothing to do with this thread or are you people debating Tsunade versus Itachi or some shit? Keep in mind that I didn't bother to read about two full pages in order to find out.

@On-Topic. Team one wins.​

Idk I was just questioning the mirinomo guy or whatever on the KH type of argument he was using and I used itachi in my example and then this Keimil started bothering with questions about Itachi.

 

[AGoodBoy]

*sigh* Don't butt in if you don't really know what my point is.

It's my opinion that he was listed to be 17-18 in part 1 Naruto?
Unless you believe that Itachi defeated Orochimaru during Part 1 then idk lmfao.

Why don't you go look yourself? I'm tired of looking for info for you.

Your point was that Hiashi could be stronger than tsunade even though she's hokage... not the strongest in the village necessarily needs to be hokage.

Which is wrong.

 

[Murasame]

Your point was that Hiashi could be stronger than tsunade even though she's hokage... not the strongest in the village necessarily needs to be hokage.

Which is wrong.

"Lmao I hope you realize Hokage doesn't get chosen solely on strength"
Never said strength wasn't a factor.. infact I admitted to Tsunade having more power than Hiashi.
edit: not only that but I also said Hiashi could potentially be a bad match up for Tsunade not that hes stronger.. I've even inferred that he could be weaker.
Point is I'm saying that titles shouldn't necessarily mean you could win a fight against someone else.. thats all I was saying against the other member. I don't care who's the victor.

 

[Keimil]

It's my opinion that he was listed to be 17-18 in part 1 Naruto?
Unless you believe that Itachi defeated Orochimaru during Part 1 then idk lmfao.

Why don't you go look yourself? I'm tired of looking for info for you.

No, that is not what i said, I said the fact that he was 17-18 year old in part 1 doesn't make a true what you are saying about Itachi defeating Orochimaru at 13 years old. That's all... We have very limited information about when that happened and you just decided to believe whatever you want, just because there is no further information, and that's ok, it's your opinion, but you can't bring it into a debate claiming that is a fact and demanding everyone have to believe it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

All the stuff that you said have nothing to do with what we were previously discussing.
I didn't understand this, I tried to translate it to my native language and didn't make it any clearer to me...

The fact that Sakura remains unharmed is something I cannot explain to you, maybe Kishi can, but this a fact in Naruto and shouldn't be doubted by anyone since we have a lot of feats proving this during the manga.

I doubt it, I found it really unlikely actually, but whatever... Byakugou can tank that skill easily, A clone with 30% of Kisame's chakra tanked Air Palm Directly from Neji, Byakugou got this big time....
No, but no evidence indicates it all happened all in the same month neither, and still i don't believe so... Also you forgot about the time he spent with Orochimaru as a teammate, in Akatsuki, before he decided to betray him... That's not clear either...

What I meant was how a clone appeared directly behind her without her noticing( thus getting the drop on her) even though every clone in that area should be dead. These clones are by no means fast. So I doubt they can get to her before ems sasuke and kcm naruto can get to her...yet they did.

And the reason why I doubt it is because that's the only occasion in which that happens.. even when tsunade does her ground breaking stuff shockwaves don't appear. The ground just breaks, and even then she has her lineage backing up her durability feats.

 

[Waltz]

Wut? He was 13 unless you're telling me he waited a few years to join the akatsuki after killing his clan. When you see him joining akatsuki you see him wearing the same anbu outfit which infers he joined the akatsuki shortly after the massacre.

No. Sasori stated "We haven't done this since 7 years ago "Since orochimaru left the organization":

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Uchiha Itachi
Ninja Registration Serial Number: 012110
Birthday: June 9th (17-18 years-old, Gemini)
Height: Unknown Weight: Unknown Blood Type: Unknown
Personality: Unknown [Cold and composed, merciful, avoids trouble]
Specialized Technique: Unknown [Mangekyo Sharingan - Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu]


18-7 = 11years old

3 years after we had shippuden. 18+3=21

Hence:

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21-10 = 11

Itachi practically joined Akatsuki the moment he found Obito which would have been somewhere between ages 8-10.

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[Keimil]

What I meant was how a clone appeared directly behind her without her noticing( thus getting the drop on her) even though every clone in that area should be dead. These clones are by no means fast. So I doubt they can get to her before ems sasuke and kcm naruto can get to her...yet they did.

Ahhh okok i remember that, probably that Mini-Bijuu was too big to die in that attack, or maybe it appeared after the attack... I don't know that either... Do you?

 

[Murasame]

No. Sasori stated "We haven't done this since 7 years ago "Since orochimaru left the organization":

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Uchiha Itachi
Ninja Registration Serial Number: 012110
Birthday: June 9th (17-18 years-old, Gemini)
Height: Unknown Weight: Unknown Blood Type: Unknown
Personality: Unknown [Cold and composed, merciful, avoids trouble]
Specialized Technique: Unknown [Mangekyo Sharingan - Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu]


18-7 = 11years old

3 years after we had shippuden. 18+3=21

Hence:

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21-10 = 11

Itachi practically joined Akatsuki the moment he found Obito which would have been somewhere between ages 8-10.​

Yeah I saw this on other websites but I didn't say this because I'd sound even more unbelievable and would need evidence to back it up. Well + rep to you sir. If this indeed true then Itachi more amazing than he seems he is but then again wasn't there some inconsistency in this?

 

[Keimil]

No. Sasori stated "We haven't done this since 7 years ago "Since orochimaru left the organization":

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Uchiha Itachi
Ninja Registration Serial Number: 012110
Birthday: June 9th (17-18 years-old, Gemini)
Height: Unknown Weight: Unknown Blood Type: Unknown
Personality: Unknown [Cold and composed, merciful, avoids trouble]
Specialized Technique: Unknown [Mangekyo Sharingan - Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu]


18-7 = 11years old

3 years after we had shippuden. 18+3=21

Hence:

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21-10 = 11

Itachi practically joined Akatsuki the moment he found Obito which would have been somewhere between ages 8-10.​

Yes, but in Shippuden Itachi was 21 years old, according to Naruto Wiki. And Sasori state that in shippuden right?

So 21-7 = 14

Is it correct?
PD: Sorry, i just saw the scan, so he was 11, impressive!
But that doesn't make any sense.... He was 13 when he got promoted to Anbu, and 11 when he defeated Orochimaru??
Is there a possibility that Orochimaru didn't leave Akatsuki when Itachi defeated him, and just have his partner changed with Sasori?

 

[AGoodBoy]

No. Sasori stated "We haven't done this since 7 years ago "Since orochimaru left the organization":

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Uchiha Itachi
Ninja Registration Serial Number: 012110
Birthday: June 9th (17-18 years-old, Gemini)
Height: Unknown Weight: Unknown Blood Type: Unknown
Personality: Unknown [Cold and composed, merciful, avoids trouble]
Specialized Technique: Unknown [Mangekyo Sharingan - Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu]


18-7 = 11years old

3 years after we had shippuden. 18+3=21

Hence:

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21-10 = 11

Itachi practically joined Akatsuki the moment he found Obito which would have been somewhere between ages 8-10.

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I didn't know itachi solo'd a grown ass, 40+ Y/o sannin when he was only 11. Dayum, ma nigga deserve dat wank

That seems inconsistent though... Seeing as itachi was anbu at 13 and we know he wasn't part of konoha when he was in akatsuki.