Tsunade, Shizune and Sakura vs Hiashi

[Keimil]

He said itachi not sasuke. Itachi mindraped oro and cut his hand off. That's why he left the akatsuki.

Sorry, i thought i saw a period, i still don't understand the "13 years old part"... where was stated his age by the time that happened?

 

[Murasame]

By the time she was chosen, Jiraya didn't want to be Hokage, the elders offered him that responsibility and he rejected it.
Part 1 Naruto was not stronger than Tsunade by any means, and I don't think Part 1 Kakashi was either, probably when he gained Kamui he did surpassed her.

You really think Orochimaru was defeated by Part 1 Sasuke?!! OMG!
He was testing his body, he was holding back, I don't know how you missed that...

Yes I know that obviously. I was just showing him how bad his logic was.
It doesn't take a genius to know that I was referring to part two Naruto and Kakashi because by then she was still Hokage.
@bold caterpillar already answered for me.
Oh really? If that was true I wonder why Orochimaru admitted to this.

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I know it doesn't work, I was merely using irony there. ABC never works. By that logic, Naruto stands no chance in front of Pain, yet we all know what happened. I just say that we know more powers by Tsunade and more powerful ones than by Hiashi. Other than those Air Palms and that body-chakra rotation, we know nothing about him. We can only say that he has Neji's powers, since we know more about him. Yet, that's not enough to beat Tsunade.

Tsunade also stood no chance in front of Madara, yet she put up a good fight against him. Status or not, Sannin, Hokage or not, she's obviously more powerful than Hiashi.

I don't really care who wins in this match up or not. I was just questioning your logic.
Anyways Tsunade obviously has more power but that doesn't win fights all the time.. just saying.

 

[Keimil]

Yes I know that obviously. I was just showing him how bad his logic was.
It doesn't take a genius to know that I was referring to part two Naruto and Kakashi because by then she was still Hokage.
@bold caterpillar already answered for me.
Oh really? If that was true I wonder why Orochimaru admitted to this.

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We had a misunderstanding, i thought i saw a period, changing completely the meaning of what you were stating. To sum up, i thought you were talking about Sasuke, not Itachi, my apologies.
I still don't understand the "13 years old part", I don't remember where/if that was stated in the manga.

Even though, I don't think they are changing Tsunade just because someone stronger appeared you know? Thats's why I thought you were talking about Part 1 Naruto and Kakashi, since she was promoted in Part 1.

 

[fayeon]

Ok let's be real. Who in team one can react to his airpalms......

Toodles.

Seriously everyone assuming that hiashi just going to use airpalms and kill them

Hiashi doesn't have counter for ground punch

And it killed 50 jubbi fodder so its safe to say it kills him .
His rotation would be useless because ground punch .

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Sorry, i thought i saw a period, i still don't understand the "13 years old part"... where was stated his age by the time that happened?

He was around that age

 

[Keimil]

He was around that age

Why? Where is it stated? Please, I want to check it out...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Seriously everyone assuming that hiashi just going to use airpalms and kill them

Hiashi doesn't have counter for ground punch

And it killed 50 jubbi fodder so its safe to say it kills him .
His rotation would be useless because ground punch .

Doesn't she have to jump for that? They get blasted out of the sky before they even land.
Im not saying he wins(they have katsuyu) but logically the trio has no counter for that move. And given its range and power... it's quite formidable.

 

[miromiro]

I don't really care who wins in this match up or not. I was just questioning your logic.
Anyways Tsunade obviously has more power but that doesn't win fights all the time.. just saying.

No need to question my logic, I was intentionally using that crappy ABC logic just to equal the fight with Hiashi. We know nothing about him or his powers, does he have Neji's powers? Does he have other powers? We don't know. So the idiotic ABC logic is the only thing that can apply here.

Anyway, the fight is Tsunade, Shizune & Sakura vs Hiashi. I've already left my answer where I chose Team 1.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why? Where is it stated? Please, I want to check it out...

I really don't feel like calculating it.

 

[Keimil]

Doesn't she have to jump for that? They get blasted out of the sky before they even land.
Im not saying he wins(they have katsuyu) but logically the trio has no counter for that move. And given its range and power... it's quite formidable.

You don't need to jump to produce a great shock-wave explosion with CES. It's all about focusing and releasing chakra in perfect timing.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You don't need to jump to produce a great shock-wave explosion with CES. It's all about focusing and releasing chakra in perfect timing.

I'm not so sure. Ces has nothing to do with their strength/chakra control after its formed. It just lets them tank crap. If that was the case moves like heaven kick of pain would be pointless.

 

[fayeon]

Doesn't she have to jump for that? They get blasted out of the sky before they even land.
Im not saying he wins(they have katsuyu) but logically the trio has no counter for that move. And given its range and power... it's quite formidable.

She only jumped so she can be in the front and naruto and sasuke look at her back .

also if she was in the lead other people wont be damaged

That was the point of her jumping not that she increase her strength by jumping .

Also:
If i remember correctly that page had the word die or kill on it .

 

[Keimil]

I'm not so sure. Ces has nothing to do with their strength/chakra control after its formed. It just lets them tank crap. If that was the case moves like heaven kick of pain would be pointless.

Oh dude, I didn't make this up, It's canon:

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[Murasame]

We had a misunderstanding, i thought i saw a period, changing completely the meaning of what you were stating. To sum up, i thought you were talking about Sasuke, not Itachi, my apologies.
I still don't understand the "13 years old part", I don't remember where/if that was stated in the manga.

Even though, I don't think they are changing Tsunade just because someone stronger appeared you know? Thats's why I thought you were talking about Part 1 Naruto and Kakashi, since she was promoted in Part 1.

@bold no biggie it was just a misunderstanding.

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This was around the uchiha massacre time period.

Yeah but still its obvious that I was talking about part 2 naruto and kakashi. I was just going by his logic that Hokages are stronger than everyone in the leaf village when its not true because you have people like naruto and kakashi.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh dude, I didn't make this up, It's canon:

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But that isn't the same (not as big)as her supposed minion busting punch she jumped for. To achieve the aoe I think they have to jump.

 

[Keimil]

@bold no biggie it was just a misunderstanding.

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This was around the uchiha massacre time period.

Yeah but still its obvious that I was talking about part 2 naruto and kakashi. I was just going by his logic that Hokages are stronger than everyone in the leaf village when its not true because you have people like naruto and kakashi.

Ok, probably... yeah... I agree with you, 13 would be an accurate guess, maybe a couple of years more...

Of course, the Hokage is not always the strongest person in the village, i can agree with that too.

 

[fayeon]

But that isn't the same (not as big)as her supposed minion busting punch she jumped for. To achieve the aoe I think they have to jump.

It never state she needs to jump like i said she jumped to be in front naruto and sasuke (her goal so they watch her back)

Also after the yin seal sakura can use all her power and doesn't restrict anything like when she used to form the seal So her strength is increased than the one with kakashi and bell test.

 

[Murasame]

Ok, probably... yeah... I agree with you, 13 would be an accurate guess, maybe a couple of years more...

Of course, the Hokage is not always the strongest person in the village, i can agree with that too.

Wut? He was 13 unless you're telling me he waited a few years to join the akatsuki after killing his clan. When you see him joining akatsuki you see him wearing the same anbu outfit which infers he joined the akatsuki shortly after the massacre.

 

[Keimil]

Wut? He was 13 unless you're telling me he waited a few years to join the akatsuki after killing his clan. When you see him joining akatsuki you see him wearing the same anbu outfit which infers he joined the akatsuki shortly after the massacre.

It's not clear how much time passed before he killed his clan and how much he stayed in Akatsuki before Orochimaru try to gain his body, right?

But that isn't the same (not as big)as her supposed minion busting punch she jumped for. To achieve the aoe I think they have to jump.

The reason is that Sakura finished her seal, so she doesn't have to store chakra anymore, now she can use all her chakra and her focus to perform this kind of attack:

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The point of me providing that scan was to show you how CES work.

 

[Murasame]

It's not clear how much time passed before he killed his clan and how much he stayed in Akatsuki before Orochimaru try to gain his body, right?

No but I'm sure he was still 13. But believe what you want I suppose.