Naruto can't dodge amaterasu.

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I'm giving you examples: both sharingan and sm naruto reacted to V1 speed, Kakashi couldn't react to something liner neither could Naruto. He can sense it all day the velocity is too great for his body to react to.

No proof that he chose not to dodge? Cause i've already gave my facts, he knows martial arts intercepting an assault like that is mere child's play but guess what he didn't cause he couldn't. You know when someone has no argument when they resort to 'they chose not to'.Lol

Your opinion not even fact, you used no manga facts only you grasping at straws. i think this one sided discussion is over.MS Sasuke > SM Naruto can't dodge arrows then he loses the whole fight simple as.

you dont need to proof its common sense you even further proved yourself wrong by saying ' he knows martial arts intercepting an assault like that is mere child's play' but naruto choose to block instead if he decided to fight the madara wouldnt have got to hashirama and took sm and sasuke wouldnt get any panel time so kishi decide to have him block instead of naruto all out attacking madara which he usually does rush in without thinking thats how naruto usually is

their too much battles in the coleseum which show that sm naruto is greater than ms sasuke
 
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Well he can use kage bushin to maneuver in mid-air as well as avoid attacks so he could use that to avoid amaterasu
 

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I disagree. I believe Naruto can dodge Amaterasu while he is using the body flicker jutsu in SM. SM natural increases his speed. The body flicker justu increases the user speed and because that is a SM version that would be more power than a normal one.

@ Tim Jamison. You keep saying Susano'o arrow speed > Madara's shunshin. Yet, you have nothing to support that claim. If anything I would say Madara is faster than Susano's arrow and Amaterasu. This is not the same Madara that the 1st Hokage fought. This is a stronger Madara thanks to the modification made by Kabuto. Back when Madara was an Edo was able to easier read Ei's movement and block his attacks.

Nine tails chakra doesn't increase Naruto's reaction time, only his physical speed. So, Nartuo being able to read and follow Ei's movement and Obito's movement has nothing to do with the nine tail chakra.

@Bold.

It is possible that he can avoid it with the help of his sensing abilities but his speed needs to be near V2 raikaige which it isnt. But like I said his sensing makes up for that so it is possible.
 

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SM Naruto > MS Sasuke. Sasuke can't dodge FRS then he loses the whole fight, simple as that.


What you typed could easily go both ways.

On what basis do you believe so? Not to mention, FRS wouldn't break through V4 Susano'o, so it's useless.

Amaterasu Shuriken would end him. Zetsu, who can sense couldn't dodge it, so Naruto can't either. Not to mention, Genjutsu would end him or his summons.

MS Sasuke > SM Naruto.​
 

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SM Naruto > MS Sasuke. Sasuke can't dodge FRS then he loses the whole fight, simple as that.


What you typed could easily go both ways.

No it can't please don't throw my words back at me because it really doesn't work well for you Deva dodged it here and there and he's slower than Sasuke who has 3T which has pre cog eye sight.Sasuke can dodge it on foot don't compare a shurikan that is thrown to an arrow that is projected at high speed.SMH

you dont need to proof its common sense you even further proved yourself wrong by saying ' he knows martial arts intercepting an assault like that is mere child's play' but naruto choose to block instead if he decided to fight the madara wouldnt have got to hashirama and took sm and sasuke wouldnt get any panel time so kishi decide to have him block instead of naruto all out attacking madara which he usually does rush in without thinking thats how naruto usually is
@ Bold: are you implying that he did this due to plot? Jesus Christ this whole series is plot, you haven't countered what i stated you might as well stop replying to me its getting old fast. He knows how to fight but he blocked because his opponent was too fast for him simple. I got manga pages to back me up you have nothing.
their too much battles in the coleseum which show that sm naruto is greater than ms sasuke
Nope, We didn't even see MS Sasuke's true potential due to his eye sight. healthy MS Sasuke has access to V4 Susano'o SM Naruto can't breach that Susano'o.Sauske can hit Naruto but Naruto can't hit Sasuke. Wouldn't expect you of all people to grasp this.
 
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People going on about sensing need to read the recent chapters, He could only block Madara's shunshin showing how much better DSM is compared to SM. Naruto has sensing and yet his speed and reflexes only allowed him to block a simple shunshin attack, arrows are much faster than V1 Raikage and Madara so Naruto has no hope against MS or EMS Sasuke without kuruma. DSM Kabuto and SM Naruto have different Sage Modes, clearly Kabuto has the better reflexes,sensing and speed to dodge arrows unlike Naruto who couldn't dodge a shunshin attack.

we never completed our discussion on sage mode naruto and madara i see

if naruto can sense and block an attack from madara, he can also dodge

third raikage's blitz has to dodged at all cost because nukite would punch a hole in you but madara's taijutsu is not the same it can be blocked or dodged, naruto opted for the first

i believe he would dodge the arrow, he might not be able to dodge amaterasu, however that is not necessary always
 
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This goes without saying. I thought everyone was aware of this already?


dodging amaterasu maybe but to say he is greater than ms sasuke is just blasphemy enton arrows ends if and if he manages to avoid amaterasu nothing sm naruto has can break through v4 susano and thats saying if he was to avoid amaterasu
 

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we never completed our discussion on sage mode naruto and madara i see

if naruto can sense and block an attack from madara, he can also dodge

third raikage's blitz has to dodged at all cost because nukite would punch a hole in you but madara's taijutsu is not the same it can be blocked or dodged, naruto opted for the first

i believe he would dodge the arrow, he might not be able to dodge amaterasu, however that is not necessary always
Sensing doesnt help naruto escaping it much. He has no speed for that.
 

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we never completed our discussion on sage mode naruto and madara i see

if naruto can sense and block an attack from madara, he can also dodge

you see madara doesnt posess a lethal attack like nukite so his blitz has to dodged at all cost but madara's taijutsu is not the same it can be blocked or dodged, naruto opted for the first

i believe he would dodge the arrow, he might not be able to dodge amaterasu, however that is not necessary always

Blocking and dodging are two completely separate subjects.

When you block, even with reflexes you move about 25 muscles tissues up (cross hand block).

But when dodging, you move over 300 muscles. Not ducking, but dodging/dashing.

Completely different levels.
 

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we never completed our discussion on sage mode naruto and madara i see

if naruto can sense and block an attack from madara, he can also dodge

third raikage's blitz has to dodged at all cost because nukite would punch a hole in you but madara's taijutsu is not the same it can be blocked or dodged, naruto opted for the first
Naruto was also approaching the 3rd so why on earth would he block? He knew what he was doing in that situation but when Madara rushed him he went with his reflexes and that reflexes action was to block. People like Kabuto dodged an arrow effortlessly while Naruto couldn't counter attack Madara. As i said to the other guy, he knows martial arts if you was to go at a fast paste and punch that martial artist they would use that against you and counter. If they couldn't then they would dodge if they couldn't even do that they block. I'm gonna dwell on this any further as i've been saying the same thing to the other guy, Sasuke has means of hitting Naruto while Naruto can't lay a finger on him.

i believe he would dodge the arrow, he might not be able to dodge amaterasu, however that is not necessary always
Do you think SM Naruto is stronger?
 

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Sensing doesnt help naruto escaping it much. He has no speed for that.

Unless im mistaken, I did read some where that said those who master sage mode can sense chakra, meaning sm should be capable of sensing the chakra build of in sasuke's eyes similar to what nagato did and get out of sasuke's view in time.
 

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Sensing doesnt help naruto escaping it much. He has no speed for that.




thats a huge distance covered in a very short time

and naruto doesnt even have to move that much, just has to move sideways
 

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Unless im mistaken, I did read some where that said those who master sage mode can sense chakra, meaning sm should be capable of sensing the chakra build of in sasuke's eyes similar to what nagato did and get out of sasuke's view in time.

Why the hell do you have Macho's avatar, I thought you were him. But I realized due to the fact that he would never write something like that.
 

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thats a huge distance covered in a very short time

and naruto doesnt even have to move that much, just has to move sideways

How is that a speed feat? He jumped off and crashed on the guy, wouldn't call that a foot speed feat.
 

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People going on about sensing need to read the recent chapters, He could only block Madara's shunshin showing how much better DSM is compared to SM. Naruto has sensing and yet his speed and reflexes only allowed him to block a simple shunshin attack, arrows are much faster than V1 Raikage and Madara so Naruto has no hope against MS or EMS Sasuke without kuruma. DSM Kabuto and SM Naruto have different Sage Modes, clearly Kabuto has the better reflexes,sensing and speed to dodge arrows unlike Naruto who couldn't dodge a shunshin attack.

You do know this is a non-full power Naruto you're using as an example right? The guy has been fighting for about 3 days straight with 2 breaks where Sakura healed him. He was panting along with Sasuke after they beat Obito so what makes you think a fully rested Naruto can't do what an exhausted one couldn't? Also if you look at Naruto while Madara Blitz him, he has his hand up in a blocking manner but Madara's physical strength knocked them down hard, you can see the ground break where Naruto fell.

Madara countered Sasuke's Enton arrow from hitting Obito from like a mile away by shooting Chakra rods at it when it was in mid range so it's speed isn't that OP as you make it seem .

SM has Taijutsu, stamina, and genjutsu over Sasuke but Sasuke has power, defense, smarts and predictability of the Sharingan so yes Sasuke would win but he's not the strongest person on the field. Tobirama, Hashirama, Minato, Madara are still ahead so far in terms of base stats, experiences, power and smarts. Give a time skip and Sasuke and Naruto will surpass them all.
 

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Why the hell do you have Macho's avatar, I thought you were him. But I realized due to the fact that he would never write something like that.

It's a nice avatar lol

How is that a speed feat? He jumped off and crashed on the guy, wouldn't call that a foot speed feat.

I was under the impression he used shunshin.
 

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dodging amaterasu maybe but to say he is greater than ms sasuke is just blasphemy enton arrows ends if and if he manages to avoid amaterasu nothing sm naruto has can break through v4 susano and thats saying if he was to avoid amaterasu

You're describing current Sasuke.

MS Sasuke is the one who fought Danzo.
 
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