Sannin vs Tobirama, Minato and Hiruzen

[BenjerminGaye]

And Gamabunta respects Yondaime more than his other summoners Lol

Even if he didn't team one doesn't have a contract seal..... bummer.

 

[Minator93]

Even if he didn't team one doesn't have a contract seal..... bummer.

Haha yeah that's true

 

[Nattana]

Even if he didn't team one doesn't have a contract seal..... bummer.

Haha yeah that's true

I see that there's no reason discussing with you, since you use a jutsu as an argument without even knowing what it does. Then despite having it all explained, you still stand by some fanfiction you want to believe in to give some advantage to the Hokage.

You're not worth my time.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I see that there's no reason discussing with you, since you use a jutsu as an argument without even knowing what it does. Then despite having it all explained, you still stand by some fanfiction you want to believe in to give some advantage to the Hokage.

You're not worth my time.

You said it breaks the link and destroys direct control. The only reason why oro's snakes listen to him is because of the contract/link. Which they will no longer do once contact seal is used. For tsunade to heal people she needs the link to katsuyu. That too is gone via contact seal. And if minato contact seals jman his toads will have no reason to work for him and it also lets minato summon them to him.

 

[TheEvilOne]

You said it breaks the link and destroys direct control. The only reason why oro's snakes listen to him is because of the contract/link. Which they will no longer do once contact seal is used. For tsunade to heal people she needs the link to katsuyu. That too is gone via contact seal. And if minato contact seals jman his toads will have no reason to work for him and it also lets minato summon them to him.

You still don't get Nattana's point I see.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You still don't get Nattana's point I see.

Without direct control how does oro's snakes work for him? They already openly admitted their hate for him. So he had to be controlling them or they wouldn't do jack shit for him.


Correct or incorrect?

 

[shelke]

Interesting comments for Team Hokage. The only useful one would be Tobirama though. Since Edos are restricted, he is limited to his Suiton skill set and FTG moves. I do believe he lasts the longest as he should have massive chakra reserves and should be able to use Kage Bushin with Tags and Flying Thunder God Slash. But, since Tsunade would be in Immorality Mode, I hardly doubt it would work in his favour.

Orochimaru has wind Release which he used to knock back FTG Kunais way back in part one. I wonder why they never showed it again though. He tanks all physical attacks quite easily, as he was able to literally mend himself together against 4 tails Naruto when he was on his last leg, quite literally. Minato isn't getting past Orochimaru, not even close. Unless anyone here believes that Minato's physical attacks pack more punch than 4 tails Naruto - in which case I suggest that they are quite high.

He can also use thousand Snakes to move the Kunais out of the nearest locality. Manda would be far too much with Gamabunta for the other team, far too much. Katsuya and Tsunade can be in support mode. I hardly doubt Tsunade doesn't know anything about FTG, even the thought is stupid, as her grandfather - Tobirama - created this technique. She would be cautious of this and I also doubt that Jiraiya and Orochimaru are unaware of it. So Minato getting a chance to tap them seems ridiculous to me, as he has no reasonable Taijutsu or Kenjutsu feats. I would say that at least Tobirama seems apt at latter.

Hizuren is pointless here, unless he commits suicide through Shinigami Seal and kills the three. Lol That way, team two wins. Poor Tobirama though. You should have picked a better team.

 

[blazekev90]

None of the snakes oro controls like oro.
Tsunade needs the link for her regen to work.

The only one left is jman's toads which minato can just resummon to his side.
Lol

Incorrect! It's not that they dislike him, Manda just doesn't lile to take orders from a human. As long as he gets something out of the situation he'll cooperate. Don't downplay the sannin anf their relationship with their summonings. They've fought together for years, contact seal would do nothing in this situation.

Btw those consdiering kunia. They're easily countered ny either Jman or Orochimaru

Jman relationship w/ toads > Minato seeing as in some panels Pa doesn't even acknowledge his existence. They wouldn't swap, they wouldn't join or follow Jman. Also, only Jman has Ma and Pa on his side

 

[Nattana]

Without direct control how does oro's snakes work for him? They already openly admitted their hate for him. So he had to be controlling them or they wouldn't do jack shit for him.

Correct or incorrect?

If they hated him, they wouldn't have agreed to have a contract with him. It was already stated in manga that Manda could betray Orochimaru despite being his summon. It means that all Oro snakes worked for him because they wanted to.
Same goes for any other summon not being controlled by some sort or Genjutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

That Tobirama and Hiruzen are too much.

 

[blazekev90]

That Tobirama and Hiruzen are too much.

Too much for who?

 

[Penguin]

Do you think Suiton: Suidanha can cut down every summon bar Katsuya?

 

[paratise]

Do you think Suiton: Suidanha can cut down every summon bar Katsuya?

Nope its scale did not seem large enough.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Do you think Suiton: Suidanha can cut down every summon bar Katsuya?

Manda already tanked a giant blade, I doubt Tobirama's suiton can kill him. He also has the option to shed his skin and negate the attack.

The boss toads are too fast, Tobirama has no chance to hit them.

 

[Penguin]

Manda already tanked a giant blade, I doubt Tobirama's suiton can kill him. He also has the option to shed his skin and negate the attack.

The boss toads are too fast, Tobirama has no chance to hit them.

Can I get that scan where Manda sheds his skin please? I know he did, I just want to see something about it. And the Toads are not dodging Suidanha. Suidanha is performed and executed to fast.

Nope its scale did not seem large enough.

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I beg to differ on this. Note how many branches the Suidanha sliced in half. Also note, one-two branch absorbed all of Naruto's chakra in seconds while he was in BSM. That must mean Suidanha's sharpness is unmatched in the manga, and it cut through the branches with the utmost ease.

 

[blazekev90]

@ Pen

Chapter 170, pg:13

 

[paratise]

Can I get that scan where Manda sheds his skin please? I know he did, I just want to see something about it. And the Toads are not dodging Suidanha. Suidanha is performed and executed to fast.

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I beg to differ on this. Note how many branches the Suidanha sliced in half. Also note, one-two branch absorbed all of Naruto's chakra in seconds while he was in BSM. That must mean Suidanha's sharpness is unmatched in the manga, and it cut through the branches with the utmost ease.

Its scale still did not seem large enough to contend with a size of a boss summon,amount of tree branches being multiple does not mean they are vastly large enough to be compared to a boss summon. It shows they are multiple.

And Madara's war fan was cutting the tree too. Its sharpness is clearly matched; and even surpassed by things like chidori katana.

 

[Penguin]

Its scale still did not seem large enough to contend with a size of a boss summon,amount of tree branches being multiple does not mean they are vastly large enough to be compared to a boss summon. It shows they are multiple.

And Madara's war fan was cutting the tree too. Its sharpness is clearly matched; and even surpassed by things like chidori katana.

Madara's fan was not made of chakra though, unlike Suidanha. Suidanha was able to cut through the chakra absorbing trees fast enough to not be hindered at all, which was said to

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Plus the tree was the Juubi, so it should be pretty durable. And another reason Madara had little resistance cutting it was because of Hashirama's cells, which gives him very haxxed strength.

@ Pen

Chapter 170, pg:13

Thanks, much appreciated.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Do you think Suiton: Suidanha can cut down every summon bar Katsuya?

Yes, it's also a manga fact.

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Same shit, different victim.

 

[Penguin]

That was Fukasaku's tongue though.