[Theory] Who did it?

[chopstickchakra]

Pretty sure it was Rebecca seeing as they just showed Mr. Soldier using super fast attacks and he trained Rebecca, she probably blitzed everyone.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Pretty sure it was Rebecca seeing as they just showed Mr. Soldier using super fast attacks and he trained Rebecca, she probably blitzed everyone.

But Rebecca is unconscious on the floor.

 

[chopstickchakra]

But Rebecca is unconscious on the floor.

I don't see rebecca in any of the panels on the floor and the announcer says someone is getting up. Why else would they show Mr. Soldier speed blitzing opponents and training Rebecca to do the same and not use it?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I don't see rebecca in any of the panels on the floor and the announcer says someone is getting up. Why else would they show Mr. Soldier speed blitzing opponents and training Rebecca to do the same and not use it?

Wow. Just wow.

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Bottom center panel.

Well since when was Rebecca many times faster than G2 Luffy. It all happened in an instant. For that to be true it had to be a widespread attack, Haki or Kizaru. Sadly; it's not Haki and it's not Kizaru. Rebecca doesn't injure people ; remember? So why all of a sudden would she?

 

[Kuzan]

Wow. Just wow.

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Bottom center panel.

Well since when was Rebecca many times faster than G2 Luffy. It all happened in an instant. For that to be true it had to be a widespread attack, Haki or Kizaru. Sadly; it's not Haki and it's not Kizaru. Rebecca doesn't injure people ; remember? So why all of a sudden would she?

Yeah and why would Rebecca struggle for 10+ min if she could end it in a literally seconds. Also, why would she need Mera Mera no mi if she can end so many strong people in such a short amount of time. It would make no sense if she was capable of such a feat.

 

[~Zonta~]

"Capman" aka Maynard wasn't this guy defeated by Barthelmeo ??

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

"Capman" aka Maynard wasn't this guy defeated by Barthelmeo ??

So you can't read? I was saying that Maynard might not have been the only Marine to go undercover

 

[~Zonta~]

So you can't read? I was saying that Maynard might not have been the only Marine to go undercover

I don't think there would be any cause if there were notable marines who could use Conqueror's Haki then they sure would have been hint to it ......

as for the person who used the Haki was rebecca cause the flash back we have had and all the hype for true strength it has to be her ......

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I was thinking what if it was Dragon using a lightning bolt?
Bartolomeo mentioned it being fast and Sabo seemed like her knew it was going to happen but hadn't witnessed it before.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I don't think there would be any cause if there were notable marines who could use Conqueror's Haki then they sure would have been hint to it ......

as for the person who used the Haki was rebecca cause the flash back we have had and all the hype for true strength it has to be her ......

So you haven't read any of the theory? I said it isn't HH. Rebecca is unconscious so it can't be her.

 

[~Zonta~]

So you haven't read any of the theory? I said it isn't HH. Rebecca is unconscious so it can't be her.

I did read the theory and I didn't say its wrong plus its not confirmed that rebecca is unconscious........

We both are making speculations here and considering the set up of the chapter n flash backs of rebecca I think its her but who knows Oda might introduce some one new character out of the blue which won't surprise me

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I did read the theory and I didn't say its wrong plus its not confirmed that rebecca is unconscious........

Go back to the OP. Study the bottom centre panel of Rebecca.

We both are making speculations here and considering the set up of the chapter n flash backs of rebecca I think its her but who knows Oda might introduce some one new character out of the blue which won't surprise me

Also ; why would Rebecca who doesn't hurt anyone, hurt everyone? If she was that capable and fast, then why would she be knocked down? Why is it that base Luffy blitzed her and yet you think she ****ed up the entire block? Why didn't she do it from the start?

 

[Itachi Minato]

I was thinking what if it was Dragon using a lightning bolt?
Bartolomeo mentioned it being fast and Sabo seemed like her knew it was going to happen but hadn't witnessed it before.

Nah I doubt it. Firstly, I think that would be too much for this arc. Secondly, There would be no point in Sabo being sent there if Dragon was going to show up.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Nah I doubt it. Firstly, I think that would be too much for this arc. Secondly, There would be no point in Sabo being sent there if Dragon was going to show up.

Good point.
Although it has to be something relevant to Sabo imo.
Since he had heard about it happening before.
Unless its something to do with Dressrosa.

 

[Caliburn]

Who knocked everyone out in D block?

Now let me explain why I don't think it was Haoshoku Haki:

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Haoshoku Haki doesn't injure people. Yet we clearly see Cavendish etc. being injured.

Not only this but Haoshoku Haki is commonly encountered in the New World (we've seen it at least twice since chapter 698). So I also doubt Sabo has only heard rumours about Haoshoku Haki. That's why I believe it's a Devil Fruit.

Namely Isshou's Devil Fruit:

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He probably crushed the contestants.

This is possible because, if he has the ability to affect Meteors with his powers (over 100,000 meters away AT LEAST), then he can certainly use techniques that can affect anywhere he pleases on the Island. Although of course I would suspect that the Gravitational pull toward the Earth will be weaker when using a Technique further away from himself, this justifies why he (if it was him) didn't crush the ring.

I also believe that the only standing contestant could be a Marine. "Capman" aka Maynard was an undercover Marine. Who said he was the only Marine to go undercover?

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#COBY4MMnM

I'm just going to copy paste me answer from the Predictions/Discussion thread:

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I also meant outside the ring, not really sure how much different meanings you could give to 'outside' in this case.

That only person is getting up I don't really find a reason to say that it's not the KD. For starters it's already questionable what the commentator is seeing. On top of that you need to question what the guy who is getting up exactly was doing. He might have been playing for dead or was just sitting on the ground or something. What that whole 'getting up' thing means, is something that will be clarified in one of the following chapters.

Not to mention we still don't know much about what the KD actually entails. So far its meaning was more symbolical than practical as KOing regular foot soldiers is handy, it isn't really useful when fighting someone else with a strong will. So Oda still needs to explain more to what the KD truly is capable of. I've been theorizing for example that the 'Voice of all Things', which Roger had, is in fact an extremely high form of CoO, allowing you to hear 'voices' that otherwise can't be heard. Even among KD users there should be a pecking order, so that someone can use it in other ways than just making people faint, isn't too far-fetched. Also people can be influenced by their own Haki, Coby almost was in shock when he obtained the CoO too fast due to that he had no control over it.

I checked the chapter again though and based on the panels it seems unlikely though that it was the KD just because all the fighters seem to have large and severe bruises. A regular KD shouldn't leave such kind of physical injuries. Unless it's some kind of KD - CoA combo, effectively creating 'physical Haki', because as I said I believe such things might be possible, but there currently isn't much to back this claim up in this case.

I don't really see why this would be Fujitora's doing. The battleground is also still intact. In terms of physical destruction there isn't really much damage while Fujitora has so far never had much objections in wrecking the place. I don't really understand either as why he would intervene. There isn't anything that indicates either they got pushed down as most of them seem to have lost conscious, only Whitebeard is allowed to die while standing up, any other mortal will just fall down on the ground.

Putting this all aside I also have alternative theory...it's Buggy!!! Buggy wants treasure and money and any DF by default costs something like a 100M and we know he tried to sell one in the past. A logia DF that not too long ago belonged to a famous pirate, so that one should fetch a prize maybe ten times higher. It's also possible Buggy has some sentimental feelings for the DF of the son of his late captain, but I doubt that. He infiltrated the tournament together with Richie (remember he had a lion in his crew) which he used to dwindle the number of opponents. Then when Richie eventually got taken down and only the strongest ones were still left, but already used up quite a lot of their strength, he decided to use his ultimate weapon: the Special Muggy Ball! Which he upgraded once again to be more efficient and by now even became well known, hence Sabo saying 'I'd heard of this'. Because weapons like this are actually forbidden in the tournament and because Buggy is a coward, he just played for dead since the start of the fight and then, when no one was watching him, used the SMB to take down whoever was left and, after firing it, stood up.

It would be so hilarious if that actually would be the case

There are three flaws in your Fujitora-theory:

1) Your assumption of what the KD only is capable of. It's indeed true that of what we have seen so far of it, shouldn't be able to damage people like that. However it's not a far-fetched idea to assume it can do more as otherwise it's more something for prestige and status rather than for practical use. As you said KD users appear more frequent now, though saying 'commonly' like it's normal is a bit too much, still somehow a pecking order between KD users should be established.

2) Fujitora without hesitation crushed some low-levelled cronies of Doflamingo in a public bar, leaving a huge hole at the center of the room. He had no issues either with throwing battleships and meteorites around when fighting Law and he then successfully KO's 30 or so top fighters without making a single crack? Even though it has shown that Fujitora was able to tie Law down to the ground, Law was still very well conscious.

3) Why would Fujitora do it? There is a VC outside the Colosseum and he said some stuff about Maynard, that he was being too impatient or something and I think when Maynard got taken down, they lost contact as afterwards one of the soldiers also said that none of the fighters actually had left yet. You would think that if there was another marine, he would be investigating that.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I'm just going to copy paste me answer from the Predictions/Discussion thread:


There are three flaws in your Fujitora-theory:

1) Your assumption of what the KD only is capable of. It's indeed true that of what we have seen so far of it, shouldn't be able to damage people like that. However it's not a far-fetched idea to assume it can do more as otherwise it's more something for prestige and status rather than for practical use. As you said KD users appear more frequent now, though saying 'commonly' like it's normal is a bit too much, still somehow a pecking order between KD users should be established.

How is this a flaw in my theory? I assume KD means Haoshoku Haki (no idea where you got KD from), but there is nobody on Dressrosa with Haoshoku Haki on Shank's level. If there was it would be too much for the arc and the quality of the arc might even decrease. Too much for one arc.

2) Fujitora without hesitation crushed some low-levelled cronies of Doflamingo in a public bar, leaving a huge hole at the center of the room. He had no issues either with throwing battleships and meteorites around when fighting Law and he then successfully KO's 30 or so top fighters without making a single crack? Even though it has shown that Fujitora was able to tie Law down to the ground, Law was still very well conscious.

Law is certainly stronger than the D Block fighters. Law was unable to move under Isshou's gravity, so why would anyone in D Block even be conscious other than a Marine or Government representative he is helping?

3) Why would Fujitora do it? There is a VC outside the Colosseum and he said some stuff about Maynard, that he was being too impatient or something and I think when Maynard got taken down, they lost contact as afterwards one of the soldiers also said that none of the fighters actually had left yet. You would think that if there was another marine, he would be investigating that.

To help Marines with obtaining the fruit? Sakazuki or CP0 may have ordered him to do so. It will definitely boost Marine combat forces if they have the Mera Mera no Mi. A Marine may not have been informed about Maynard, in order to keep his identity under raps.

 

[akimofnevis]

It was Rebecca

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

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I've had enough of this Rebecca sh*t. It was clearly not Rebecca since she's out cold on the floor!

 

[Itachi Minato]

Good point.
Although it has to be something relevant to Sabo imo.
Since he had heard about it happening before.
Unless its something to do with Dressrosa.

I dont think thats it either. Sabo said " He heard rumours about this" so if it was someone he knows personally it wouldnt be rumours more like
"I know this". I know two things. Its not Rebecca and its not anybody from the revolutionaries. It would be jokes if it is Buggy like Caliburn said but I doubt it.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I dont think thats it either. Sabo said " He heard rumours about this" so if it was someone he knows personally it wouldnt be rumours more like
"I know this". I know two things. Its not Rebecca and its not anybody from the revolutionaries. It would be jokes if it is Buggy like Caliburn said but I doubt it.

In the majority of translations it was 'That didn't take long' So he knew what was going to happen would. Then the next panel he says 'I'd heard of this happening before but...' so it would make sense if it was to do with the Revolutionaries or the actual country of Dressrosa.