Hebi Sasuke Wrecks Current Kakashi

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first off this is assuming that

- kakashi isnt killed before he can use it
-Kakashi isnt placed under genjutsu
-Kakashi is able to locate the correct sasuke


you all are acting like he use kamui and its game over.

thats why i call u a troll, cuz kamui has no feats

as far as catching anything other than deidara arm and a gigantic head

I already said that he only wins if it comes to him using it. No need to push my own statements down my throat.

Sasuke doesn't really have the skill to put someone like Kakashi under Genjutsu..It isn't his preferred style of fighting, and someone like Kakashi is not going to fall against a visual Genjutsu like that, without at least managing to catch his opponent alongside of him. [Which, seemingly, happened in his fight with Obito]

Why would he not be able to locate the correct Sasuke..? For every clone Sasuke makes, Kakashi can make one too. He is not going to be outlastet by Hebi Sasuke, whose stamina barely allowed him to keep up with a half-dead Itachi who was spamming Mangekyo techniques.

It has no feats? What about the feats I actually listed in my previous post?
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I already said that he only wins if it comes to him using it. No need to push my own statements down my throat.

Sasuke doesn't really have the skill to put someone like Kakashi under Genjutsu..It isn't his preferred style of fighting, and someone like Kakashi is not going to fall against a visual Genjutsu like that, without at least managing to catch his opponent alongside of him. [Which, seemingly, happened in his fight with Obito]

Why would he not be able to locate the correct Sasuke..? For every clone Sasuke makes, Kakashi can make one too. He is not going to be outlastet by Hebi Sasuke, whose stamina barely allowed him to keep up with a half-dead Itachi who was spamming Mangekyo techniques.

It has no feats? What about the feats I actually listed in my previous post?
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come back when your not basis or at least aware that kakashi has 0 knowledge on hebi sasuke

other than chidori.


Hebi sasuke has more than enough tricks to set up genjutsu or anything else to beat kakashi.
 

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due to Kakashi's fighting style, he only use Kamui as a last resort.

Shame cause he be op.

But since he doesn't, hebi > Kakashi High high difficult.
 

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lol if you seriously believe what you just typed then i will pray for you tonite.
Say a prayer for yourself. Obito had Yagura (perfect jinchuuriki) in genjutsu for years. There's no feat that Hebi Sasuke that surpasses that, even his MS genjutsu didn't keep a perfect jinchuuriki (Killer Bee) in genjutsu more than a few seconds. Clearly Obito is more skilled in genjutsu than Hebi Sasuke and Kakashi kept up with Obito's genjutsu well enough. Kakashi isn't falling for Hebi Sasuke's genjutsu
 

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Lmao you think Sasuke's genjutsu will take Kakashi down when Obito's stronger genjutsu can't?
kakashi has the same eye dumb cow.
if he was so good why he was shitting when lord itachi owned his ass?

Once but Sasuke gets solo'ed by Kakashi
I can't recall Kakashi being caught in a Genjutsu with the exception of Tsukuyomi, which is a high-level MS technique whose caster is well known for his prowess in Genjutsu. Sasuke's Genjutsu level is no where near Itachi's.
The problem la sauce le fodder can't put him in a genjutsu
haters gonne hate, re-watch sai ownage with 3tomoe genjutsu
 

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Actually, I believe that Kakashi can defeat Hebi Sasuke without Kamui, but myeh.

@Oneguyabove, since when was Sai ever good at defending against Genjutsu? Unless Sasuke has Tsukuyomi or something of that level, he isn't catching another MS user.
 
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are you ignoring my request to prove what you posted?
go read the latest chapter because it seems like you dont pay attention to anything thats not related to sasuke kakashi kamui'ed the gedo mazou while it was been summoned by madara is sasuke faster than a S/T jutsu yes or no?
 

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come back when your not basis or at least aware that kakashi has 0 knowledge on hebi sasuke

other than chidori.


Hebi sasuke has more than enough tricks to set up genjutsu or anything else to beat kakashi.

He has knowledge of the Uchiha's use of Genjutsu, he has knowledge of the Curse Seal and it's workings, he has knowledge of Sasuke's affinity for Raiton and Katon and has the ability to see these techniques. Frankly, I'm not the one being biased here.

There are two notable examples of Kakashi being caught in a Genjutsu, against Itachi, who he later managed to counter with the use ofKage Bunshin, and against Obito, who he managed to counter with his own Genjutsu. Hebi Sasuke's Genjutsu prowess is severely inferior to either one.

Don't go around assuming that Hebi Sasuke's Genjutsu, which has barely been featured at all, will be able to catch someone like Kakashi without any problems. An assumption like that is flat out ridiculous.
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kakashi has the same eye dumb cow.
if he was so good why he was shitting when lord itachi owned his ass?







haters gonne hate, re-watch sai ownage with 3tomoe genjutsu
so because sai got owned by genjutsu that means it will happen to kakashi? delusional much?
itachi is better than sasuke in genjutsu by far, gai told kakashi how to deal with a sharingan user on the second encounter only naruto got caught by the genjutsu, sasuke genjutsu isnt doing anything.
 

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so because sai got owned by genjutsu that means it will happen to kakashi? delusional much?
itachi is better than sasuke in genjutsu by far, gai told kakashi how to deal with a sharingan user on the second encounter only naruto got caught by the genjutsu, sasuke genjutsu isnt doing anything.
yet hebi sauce > kakashi
 

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if kakashi didnt break obito genjutsu he would have died.

come on now ppl.


he had to break it for PNJ


How can Kakashi be one shotted by itachi genjutsu+tsukyomi


but break one of the strongest genjutsu in the manga?

Perfectly controlling a perfect jin for months.

safe to say that kakashi broke that genjutsu for PNJ


Now im logging, i made my point

hebi sasuke> kakashi

mid diff
 

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kakashi has the same eye dumb cow.
if he was so good why he was shitting when lord itachi owned his ass?
Tsukuyomi was a genjutsu that only someone of the uchiha clan (or someone with the same blood) with enough mastery of the sharingan can break so of course he fell to it.
Sasuke doesn't even possess the same level of mastery of genjutsu as Itachi or Obito so I fail to see your point.
Sasuke isn't beating Kakashi with genjutsu.
 

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-He had time to see the arrow coming
-Naruto wasnt attacking him, he asked to be kamui for the plan
-nail was going st8 for him
-rocket?


My whole arugment is that he wouldnt be able to use it or locate sasuke to use it.


Sasuke has way to many ways to kill him before hand, while kakashi only hope is kamui
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2nd bold: As far as him not being able to use it, if you believe Sasuke is so fast that he'd end the fight in a matter of seconds before Kakashi could use Kamui then ok not going to argue with you. But it only takes a second for Kakashi to spring Kamui on someone so unless you think Sasuke is going to through this fight without Kakashi never laying eyes on him then he'll be open to kamui at any point. Again not disagreeing with you at all. Just making sure you understand that in order for Kakashi to "not be able to locate Sasuke to use Kamui", Sasuke has to pretty much be invisible to him for the entire fight.

3rd bold: I agree that's why I said overall Hebi Sasuke is better. Take one move out of Kakashi's arsenal and it's game over. Hebi Sasuke can do without a few moves and still stand a chance. No argument there.

As far as the other stuff I didn't bold: Yes he had time to see Sasuke shoot an arrow at him a few feet away. You also would have time to see someone pull the trigger of a gun if they were trying to shoot you. Either way it's still not a lot of time to react to the bullet coming at you, nor did Kakashi have a lot of time to activate kamui and warp that giant arrow coming at him at such a high speed. But that too doesn't really matter. As the point was simply to remind you that Kakashi can hit fast moving targets with Kamui. Your feelings on the impressiveness of the feats are all fine by me
 
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Tsukuyomi was a genjutsu that only someone of the uchiha clan (or someone with the same blood) with enough mastery of the sharingan can break so of course he fell to it.
Sasuke doesn't even possess the same level of mastery of genjutsu as Itachi or Obito so I fail to see your point.
Sasuke isn't beating Kakashi with genjutsu.
oh so he is beating kakashi with CM -taijutsu? i guess so
 

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He has knowledge of the Uchiha's use of Genjutsu, he has knowledge of the Curse Seal and it's workings, he has knowledge of Sasuke's affinity for Raiton and Katon and has the ability to see these techniques. Frankly, I'm not the one being biased here.

There are two notable examples of Kakashi being caught in a Genjutsu, against Itachi, who he later managed to counter with the use ofKage Bunshin, and against Obito, who he managed to counter with his own Genjutsu. Hebi Sasuke's Genjutsu prowess is severely inferior to either one.

Don't go around assuming that Hebi Sasuke's Genjutsu, which has barely been featured at all, will be able to catch someone like Kakashi without any problems. An assumption like that is flat out ridiculous.
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just like you trying to tell me that kamui is going to catch someone who blitzed old team 7 and how genjutsu "wont work" and etc.

be less basis.
 
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