Is Hiashi Low Kage level or Elite Jounin?
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And when Minato was Hokage. Hurizen was Hokage. The only difference is Hurizen was retried. ...Fuk grammar. *was
Oh that sarcasm.
I'm not calling anyone dumb. Just saying. ... Who made that shit up? "Mid Jounin, High or low Kage.... Etc." You are either Jounin or you are not.
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Not one of these people know who this guy is. Hell, they confused him with ****ing Hashirama and Hiruzen. Hiashi is low-mid Kage level. Just because most people who have no idea on what they are talking about agree with the majority, does not make it accurate. What if everyone said Zabuza was chuunin level? ._.
Please try proving he is anything lower than low kage.
Please try proving he is anything lower than low kage.
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nope low kage level
Neji is an elite jounin, and the clan head is DEFINTELY more powerful than him.
fanboys who want to put their favs over another character.And when Minato was Hokage. Hurizen was Hokage. The only difference is Hurizen was retried. ...Fuk grammar. *was
Oh that sarcasm.
Hiashi is low-mid kage level. Proof that he can beat Tsunade. (
His vacuum palm managed to repel the arm of the Juubi all by himself (
Just to show you how significant Hiashi's feat against the Juubi's arm is take a look at how easily the Juubi's finger
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)His vacuum palm managed to repel the arm of the Juubi all by himself (
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). In the 2nd panel, notice that the range of this attack is at the very least 30 m, unlike
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which is more like 5 m. Neji's vacuum palm wasn't even powerful enough to faze Kisame yet Hiashi's managed to push back the Juubi's arm.
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is also much larger than Neji's hence it is stronger than his as well. Hiashi can spin faster than Neji
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spinning fast enough to block the large number of mokuton projectiles. Just to show you how significant Hiashi's feat against the Juubi's arm is take a look at how easily the Juubi's finger
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right back at him.You sound like a foolAnd when Minato was Hokage. Hurizen was Hokage. The only difference is Hurizen was retried. ...Fuk grammar. *was
Oh that sarcasm.
Stop over exaggerating, only that Hato guy didn't know who he has. Some other guy thought it was Hashi at first but then noticed it wasn't then said Hiashi is a high jounin. Don't just disrespect the other members on here, claiming they have no idea what they are talking about when they do.
Neji is a high jounin, Hiashi is stronger and is an elite jounin IMO.
Dude I already explained this to you, didn't you see all of Naruto's Rasenshurikens (far stronger than anything Hiashi has), other Hyuuga using Vacuum Palm, and other several of dozens of ninja fighting against the arm? Hiashi didn't do it by himself, you can't give him all that credit. If anything Naruto's Rasenshuriken did the most to stop the Juubi's arm
fastrthnwind
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Wait, there is a difference between elite and high jounin?
Neji for sure is an elite jounin. He is the most gifted member of one of the most powerful clans in konoha bar the uchihas and the senju.
Its pretty baseless to think that the head of one of these clans is any less powerful than that. Hiashi is clearly the more powerful of the two and has single handedly repelled one of the juubis arms. An ordinary jounin could not accomplish something of that scale.
In fact, hiashi singlehandedly one-shotted(yes literally ONE-SHOTTED) an elite commander of the cloud who attempted to steal hinata with just a touch to the heart.
He also singlehandedly repelled/knocked out 20+ sound nin (at least high chunin/jounin level ninja) at the same time with one rotation.
Again, just those feats alone put him on a scale of his own that is above even an elite jounin as most elite jounins would likely be able to handle those same scenarios but with some manner of difficulty, whereas hiashi did it EFFORTLESSLY.
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Tsunade counters the air palm by concentrating chakra in her feet.
I already explained why the Byakugou counters the gentle fist. Not to mention Hiashi has 0 ( ZERO ) speed feats. Tsunade defeats him with low-med diff. Neg diff with the slug.
I'm saying elite jounin is between high jounin and low kage. I said elite jounin to identify the level I'm trying to explain what I think he's in.
Already countered this. Did you not see Naruto's RasenShuriken? If I'm not mistaken, they were aimed at the Juubi's arm as well.
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Not really, I'm just saying elite jounin to name the spot I think he's in, which is between high jounin and low kage
Neji is a high jounin, it's such a shame he died so young. He would have been easily kage level with a couple more years
I already said Hiashi is stronger, I just don't believe Hiashi is a lot stronger as Neji. As you said, Neji is the most gifted member.
Naruto's Rasenshuriken were aimed at the Juubi's arm as well. Also, Hinata, other Hyuuga, and dozens of other ninja were shown to fight back the Juubi's arm. Hiashi did not accomplish such a feat by himself.
Yeah that guy was defenseless because he was holding Hinata. Just like with Kakashi holding Haku, he couldn't do anything but jump out of the way and the only reason he avoided fatal injury was because Zabuza hesitated. So there you go, the guy couldn't defend himself because of Hinata. Not much of an impressive feat.
They were all fodders. Asuma singlehandedly did the same thing with no difficulty. If Shikamaru didn't use most of his chakra against Temari, he would have soloed 8 sound ninja lol. Not impressive at all.
Yeah, he is above a high jounin but below low kage, right inbetween those ranks
Hiashi is high Jounin.
He barely has any feats.
And Hyuga are overrated when it comes to their offensive abilities.
I have yet to see them defeat any real opponent ( White zetsu doesn't count ) in 1 vs 1.
Hyuga are perfect for Recon, Gathering Intel, infiltration and Defense against masses of low level opponents ( AKA Riot Control )
They do not however posses abilities to go 1 on 1 against anyone who is Sannin or Kage level.
Though, Neji would of have had been an exception if he survived and had time to fully develop.
He barely has any feats.
And Hyuga are overrated when it comes to their offensive abilities.
I have yet to see them defeat any real opponent ( White zetsu doesn't count ) in 1 vs 1.
Hyuga are perfect for Recon, Gathering Intel, infiltration and Defense against masses of low level opponents ( AKA Riot Control )
They do not however posses abilities to go 1 on 1 against anyone who is Sannin or Kage level.
Though, Neji would of have had been an exception if he survived and had time to fully develop.
No, Naruto's FRS wasn't aimed at the arm of the Juubi. His FRS was aimed at all the wooden sticks that were coming at the alliance. Furthermore, FRS provides no force that is strong enough to push back the arm of the Juubi. FRS is a cutting attack, not an attack with the ability to push back massive objects, just cut through them.
The problem with that is that Tsunade's body would turn to paste if she tried to resist the push from Hiashi's vacuum palm. This is because on one side, Hiashi is exerting an immense force capable of knocking back even the arm of the Juubi when just a finger deflected a TBB from Killer Bee. On the other side, the ground is exerting a static friction force to cancel that out. What do you think will happen when the two forces neutralize each other? Massive internal pressure capable of reducing a human body to smithereens. Even Gaara during the CE arc could exert enough force to do this let alone Hiashi who is going to be assisted by Tsunade's own stupidity in your scenario.
However, most likely Tsunade will get sent flying backwards since she won't be able to resist such a massive force. Afterwards, she'll bet caught in 8 trigrams 64 palms after getting caught off guard due to being thrown around. You say gentle fist won't work but you do realize even Shizune's chakra control wasn't enough to master the Yin seal. Once Hiashis disturbs Tsunade's chakra control, how is she going to properly use the seal, which requires precise chakra control, in combat?
As for Katsuyu, its acid is vacuum palmed at high speeds right back at Tsunade.
fastrthnwind
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How is there a difference between the ranks? you are either a high level jounin or a low level kage.
Hiahsi is like over 30 years older than neji, has higher chakra reserves, slightly more refined taijutsu, and much more powerful versions of almost every techniques that neji can do. How is that not a lot stronger?
its like comparing guy and lee. lee is pretty strong on his own and is roughly jounin rank himself, but gai has demonstrated techniques and knowledge that basically put him on another level.
FRS wasn't aimed at the arm. just being used as a cover for the other alliance ninjas from the rain of massive branches. Hiashi was the only one who was able to single handed repel one of the juubi's arms by himself without the use of naruto's kyuubi cloak.
hinata was only 3 years old because it happened on her 3rd birthday. Shes not exactly a force to be reckoned with nor was she very big.
u mean he got the jump on those 8 ninjas who shikamaru had a hold on with his shadow bindings. Hiashi was out in a wide open field exposed to 20 of those ninja who were surrounding him from all sides. he basically took them all down in one blow from his massive rotation.
If you two are right about Naruto not interfering with the Juubi's arm, I think Hiashi may possibly be low kage level.
However, Hinata and other ninja fought against the Juubi's arm as well as shown. Do you believe it was a combined shinobi alliance effort?
I'm not a stubborn guy, I am willing to accept Hiashi as low kage