Misconceptions on Naruto SM (Subconscious mind vs Reality) Must Read!!!!

[Johndoesknowall]

This thread will prove that what Naruto did inside his head, he can not do in reality. People believe the fight between Naruto and Kurama is what he can do in reality as well and they try to place it in arguments. Well I found out he can't.

First I will post the scans that can't be used in reality.​

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Now I'll explain.

Naruto has shown us the ability to go into SM. His clones has shown the ability to enter SM aswell, whether they enter it themselves or are summoned that way.

But this is the reason why he can' do it in reality. When Naruto enters SM it does not transfer to the clones that are already summoned. In reality it can't be done the way it was in his subconscious. The clones themselves have to enter it or be summoned when Naruto is in SM.

So what's happening in the scans above cannot be done in reality, only in his mind and therefore should prove wrong anyone mentioning "everything he does in his mind, he could do in reality as well."

Also because I seem to have confused some people. This thread was about the transfer of SM Naruto did to his clones that were already summoned and NOT ABOUT THE RASENGAN BARRAGE

 

[Mellanoma]

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Rather he use Kyuubi chakra or not it does not matter.

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[Johndoesknowall]

Naruto did this VS Madara Mokuton though...

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That's Kurama's chakra dude

I wonder if I am the only one who has seen the fail.

What fail would that be?

 

[peinangel]

Naruto did this VS Madara Mokuton though...

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That wasn't sage mode. The fox lent him his (kyuubi) chakra.

 

[Mellanoma]

That wasn't sage mode. The fox lent him his (kyuubi) chakra.

still proves that this is something he can do outside of his "mind" lol....

 

[accept pain]

you are 50 percent right but 50 percent wrong

 

[Johndoesknowall]

you are 50 percent right but 50 percent wrong

I would like you to explain?

still proves that this is something he can do outside of his "mind" lol....

You are talking about the wrong thing.

 

[ThatOfLegend]

During Pain vs Naruto fight, Naruto created two extra clones for Rasenshuriken, when they were created they were in sage mode, they didn't have to wait to enter it

 

[Sir Blades]

What ever you say.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

During Pain vs Naruto fight, Naruto created two extra clones for Rasenshuriken, when they were created they were in sage mode, they didn't have to wait to enter it

You must of misread. I said when Naruto enters SM it does not transfer to the clones that were already summoned. The clones have to be summoned while Naruto is in SM or the clones themselves have to enter SM by themself.

 

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You can see that the clones he made are in sage mode . He could not create more clones because that would have disrupted the clones who were gathering senjutsu in mount myoboku , if those two clones had not been their , he could have created a lot more clones .
Your argument is invalid .

 

[Johndoesknowall]

But what is preventing him from entering SM and then doing shadow clone jutsu, which is what he usually does anyways...In that situation he would make however many clones with SM

Also when he sent the clones to help Gaara, they went from KCM to SM so that refutes your theory

He went into SM and then summoned a clone.

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Nothing about that refutes my theory.

Go reread the manga.

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You can see that the clones he made are in sage mode . He could not create more clones because that would have disrupted the clones who were gathering senjutsu in mount myoboku , if those two clones had not been their , he could have created a lot more clones .
Your argument is invalid .

My statement was that when Naruto goes into SM, he can not transfer it to a clone that has already been summoned. He has to summon another clone or have that clone enter SM by itself.

Read my thread before commenting.

 

[End of Days]

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chakra can be transferred from the original to the clones, making the clones enter sage mode through the original has not been done yet it can possibly be done

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and during the sage mode training fukasaku also said that if one clone of naruto accidentally turns to stone the original will turn to stone also

 

[Uzumaki Edwin]

his clones went into sage mode when kushina was holding kurama down with the chains, also the clones themselves have to enter sage mode like when he fought pein they were meditating in frog place

 

[Johndoesknowall]

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chakra can be transferred from the original to the clones, making the clones enter sage mode through the original has not been done yet it can possibly be done

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and during the sage mode training fukasaku also said that if one clone of naruto accidentally turns to stone the original will turn to stone also

Well you are right in that perspective, because it's been prove that the energy a clone gathers when it enter SM can be transferred to the original. But the original cannot transfer his SM to another clone that has already been summoned without SM. The clone itself would have to enter SM itself.

his clones went into sage mode when kushina was holding kurama down with the chains, also the clones themselves have to enter sage mode like when he fought pein they were meditating in frog place

I'm sorry. I don't quite understand if you're agreeing with me or not.

yes but that is a clone in sm making another clone, i posted the scans, If I'm wrong and that is the original Naruto, I don't remember, then scratch what I said

That is fine. I never said a clone couldn't summon another clone in SM if the clone itself is in SM. Yes that can happen. I was talking about the Naruto(original) transferring his SM to a clone that has already been summoned without SM.

 

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He went into SM and then summoned a clone.

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Nothing about that refutes my theory.

Go reread the manga.




My statement was that when Naruto goes into SM, he can not transfer it to a clone that has already been summoned. He has to summon another clone or have that clone enter SM by itself.

Read my thread before commenting.

that was a clone that summon a bruh you're whole thread is wrong he can do it. everything he did to kurama in his mind he can do outside.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

that was a clone that summon a bruh you're whole thread is wrong he can do it. everything he did to kurama in his mind he can do outside.

Prove it. Show me the scan of him doing it in the outside world/reality.

 

[-PK-]

He went into SM and then summoned a clone.

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Nothing about that refutes my theory.

Go reread the manga.




My statement was that when Naruto goes into SM, he can not transfer it to a clone that has already been summoned. He has to summon another clone or have that clone enter SM by itself.

Read my thread before commenting.

Okay i get it . But this shouldn't be that big of a deal anyway , coz he can undo the jutsu anytime and create more clones . But since i get what your point is , you might be right since we never saw him do the same thing outside of his mind .

 

[osba]

but if thats the case then why could kushina only use those chains for a limited time?

 

[lanakui8]

This thread will prove that what Naruto did inside his head, he can not do in reality. People believe the fight between Naruto and Kurama is what he can do in reality as well and they try to place it in arguments. Well I found out he can't.

First I will post the scans that can't be used in reality.​

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Now I'll explain.

Naruto has shown us the ability to go into SM. His clones has shown the ability to enter SM aswell, whether they enter it themselves or are summoned that way.

But this is the reason why he can' do it in reality. When Naruto enters SM it does not transfer to the clones that are already summoned. In reality it can't be done the way it was in his subconscious. The clones themselves have to enter it or be summoned when Naruto is in SM.

So what's happening in the scans above cannot be done in reality, only in his mind and therefore should prove wrong anyone mentioning "everything he does in his mind, he could do in reality as well."

Also because I seem to have confused some people. This thread was about the transfer of SM Naruto did to his clones that were already summoned and NOT ABOUT THE RASENGAN BARRAGE

I see you asserting the bolded, but I don't see any evidence. Where is the evidence that when the real naruto enters SM in the real world, his clones don't enter SM as well?

There is none, we've never seen the real go into SM and his clones not be in that form. On the contrary,

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supports what happened in the kurama fight: that when the real naruto entered SM, all the clones who are linked to him also entered SM.