[Theory] [FEAR] Analysis: How Madara is Absorbing Chakra

[FearxDeath]

i'm going to read this thoroughly and see if i agree... it seems to be getting as much "counter fire" as my mukuton and mukuton sage mode theories did.

i'd like to put this possibillity forward thoughther than genjutus, wich are actual ocular prowels, a sharingan makes you capable of mastering a jutsu further than a normal human being could.. the path of pain's abillities were never just the sage's, they were just extremely well executed jutsu that require molding and control that a normal human being never could...

chakra absorbtion
advanced fire jutsu
bringing a soul back from the dead, or even in that old lady wich i forgot the name of, complete ressurection.
chakra cloaks or armors
perceiving the enviroment from multiple entities at once
space time ninjutsu
and so on and so on..

i bet you every single non-doujutsu sharingan abillity could be achieved as long as you have the knowledge.. now i'm also sure that for example the susano is indeed only achievable by those that have attained the mangekyo sharingan BUT that might just be because before you got that far, there is simply no way to get a connection with said susano

This is actually wrong man... The paths of Pain techniques are Rinnegan abilities, much like Kamui and Amaterasu are MS abilities. Without a Rinnegan you cannot perform them.

 

[osba]

This is actually wrong man... The paths of Pain techniques are Rinnegan abilities, much like Kamui and Amaterasu are MS abilities. Without a Rinnegan you cannot perform them.

you shouldnt think so narrow.. it is a possibility and a rather good one at that, if i say so myself

 

[FearxDeath]

you shouldnt think so narrow.. it is a possibility and a rather good one at that, if i say so myself

But... So your saying that anyone can use kamui they just dont know how?

 

[osba]

But... So your saying that anyone can use kamui they just dont know how?

its merely a space time jutsu..

 

[FearxDeath]

its merely a space time jutsu..

It is a jutsu that is lnked specifically to a KKG, so to say that anyone can use it then you are saying that anyone can use Mokuton because it is simply a release type...

But we already know that to not be true, it is an nature type exclusive to the Senju, just as MS abiilties and Rinnegan abilities are exclusive to having said eyes.

 

[osba]

It is a jutsu that is lnked specifically to a KKG, so to say that anyone can use it then you are saying that anyone can use Mokuton because it is simply a release type...

But we already know that to not be true, it is an nature type exclusive to the Senju, just as MS abiilties and Rinnegan abilities are exclusive to having said eyes.

assumptions :heh:

 

[FearxDeath]

assumptions :heh:

Its an assumption that Mokuton is exclusive to Senju or its an assumtion that MS and Rinnegan abilities are exclusive to People with Sharingan/Rinnegans?

 

[The Sach]

Not a bad theory at all,sorry for being late to the party.=D=D
I am just going to leave my thoughts on everything.
1. 'Closing the eyes':Closing the eye which isn't there, is something that doesn't make sense. Maybe Naruto wasn't able to interpret that Madara had lost his eyes and was thinking that Madara is fighting with eyes and closing his eyes to pull out some jutsu or focus his chakra. Talking about Obito, Obito was able to see those images because Kakashi's and Obito's eyes are connected. That isn't a technique or a jutsu.
2. 'Absorption of chakra':Madara to be more precise absorbed chakra only once, and not three times. How he countered Amaterasu then I think he removed his jacket, and got read of flames.
Yes, Hashirama thought that Madara can absorb ninjutsu but actually he can't or Madara used senju absorption techs.
It isn't like first case is impossible, Karin did the same thing way back. In fact you can see his jacket falling down here,

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The next case is absorbing Hashi chakra, I don't see why we can't go for Senju DNA possibility, I mean we don't know that much about Senju abilities, they can absorb chakra, to be more precise senjutsu chakra.
3. Susano'o: What if Susano'o isn't an EMS technique?? I have few things that are going in my mind, including this possibility.What if Susano'o can be activated using brain or blood, and the condition is you need MS to awaken it??
And eyes are the ways to reshape it? Just a thought.

 

[- J AV -]

Nice theory,,,, looks interesting,, you know bro we need threads like this

 

[FearxDeath]

Not a bad theory at all,sorry for being late to the party.=D=D
I am just going to leave my thoughts on everything.
1. 'Closing the eyes':Closing the eye which isn't there, is something that doesn't make sense. Maybe Naruto wasn't able to interpret that Madara had lost his eyes and was thinking that Madara is fighting with eyes and closing his eyes to pull out some jutsu or focus his chakra. Talking about Obito, Obito was able to see those images because Kakashi's and Obito's eyes are connected. That isn't a technique or a jutsu.
2. 'Absorption of chakra':Madara to be more precise absorbed chakra only once, and not three times. How he countered Amaterasu then I think he removed his jacket, and got read of flames.
Yes, Hashirama thought that Madara can absorb ninjutsu but actually he can't or Madara used senju absorption techs.
It isn't like first case is impossible, Karin did the same thing way back. In fact you can see his jacket falling down here,

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The next case is absorbing Hashi chakra, I don't see why we can't go for Senju DNA possibility, I mean we don't know that much about Senju abilities, they can absorb chakra, to be more precise senjutsu chakra.
3. Susano'o: What if Susano'o isn't an EMS technique?? I have few things that are going in my mind, including this possibility.What if Susano'o can be activated using brain or blood, and the condition is you need MS to awaken it??
And eyes are the ways to reshape it? Just a thought.

Few Things:

1) The only thing the closing of eyes does is link Madara's Event to Obito's. If we both agree that there eyes were closed, then that is the link. For instance, if one guy walks into a store with a dragon tattoo, and another guy a few minutes later comes in with the same tattoo, then based on that I would theorize that they were related. You could argue all the different reasons why they would both have tattoo's, I am merely saying that the coincidence leaves room for interpretation. So you could easily say that there could be other reasons why this or that, that is a fair assumption. I am merely saying that my reason is one of those reasons. From there we ask which is more likely, I believe that to be my theory.

1B) Arguable, who is to say whether it is the 2 eyes that are connected or the brains that are connected to the eyes.


2) I list 3 times where Madara is scene absorbing Chakra and you only addressed 2 of them. You claim that Madara simply took off his Jacket and yet based on the scan we can see that some of his head was hit as well, where did those flames go, on top of that we know that Obito was once hit by Amaterasu as well, in the same location more or less. And yet he did not simply take off his shirt.. Why is that?

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2B) We don't know much about Senju Abilities... therefore it must be that? First of all we know that Hashirama cannot absorb ninjutsu on touch merely for the fact that he was shocked by the fact that Madara who has all of Hashirama's abiltiies could absorb Chakra. It is unlikely that this is a Senju Ability, ofcourse feel free to throw out that it is magic caused by Senju + Uchiha DNA like everyone else does. Its the easy way out of a situation like this.

3) And now Susan'o isn't an MS technique anymore...

Lets Recap

1) Naruto will notice when someone closes their eyes but not when someone's eyes disappear.
2) 2 People with Senjutsu can absorb Senjutsu from each other but can stop each other from having it absorbed although all they would have to do is absorb the other persons Senjutsu as theirs is being absorbed.
3) Amasterasu is countered by taking off a Jacket.
4) Hashirama and Naruto are quick to comment on things that have no relevance to the story but instead serve to mislead the readers.
5) Madara can absorb chakra because he is magic

I know I may come off as condescending in this, but I find it very hard to believe that people honestly believe the above over the fact that Madara is accessing his Eyes via Proxy, which has already been shown to be true by both Obito and Nagato(Through pain Paths).