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IT was Stated that you need both eyes to UNLOCK susano but maybe once IT has been unlocked you are free to activate IT whenever you want to. Its like a box you need keys to open IT but once IT has been opened you can throw away the keys but still open the box.
This is what i think
 

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Madara isn't going to bring hope to this manga... Kishi made this finale battle last far to long imo... We get a Juubi jinchuriki he loses then were presented with a weaker Villain... Drawback of this war..

Naruto has unlimited chakra...
Obito just won't die...
The Hokages are becoming fodder...
Killer bee literally has done nothing...
Madara getting pwned by Bijuu...
Hashirama got jabbed by the black rods...
Madara trying to become the 3rd Juubi jinchuriki(Possibility)...
We get a new main Villain weaker than the last...
Zetsu is still alive...
Tobi was Obito...
Madara let his plan go to shit just so he can take Hashirama's Sm and lose...
Obito was beaten just like Nagato...
Black zetsu was still inside Juubito... Etc...

How is madara weaker than juubito? Just because obito had juubi jin he's default stronger? Rikudo whipped the juubi with SM. Same SM madara is now touting. Madara seems a lot stronger than juubito right now. Especially seeing as madara got thrown around by 9 tailed beasts(pretty much near fighting the juubi itself), while obito lost to 1 jin and an ems user...?

you're asking us to logically explain a complete nonsense,sorry no one can answer that except kishi,who might just say"sit down and enjoy the manga".
There are logical explanations lol.
Madara tanking the hits, Using susano'o and reattaching with zetsu arm all have logical explanations and i can think of at least 1 for each. I'm just giving rep to anyone who can give a reason; possibly someone could potentially give a reason i didn't think up.
An active Sharingan isn't necessary for Susano'o:
Hashirama's SM increases regeneration to an almost instant rate, all Madara had to do was reconnect the parts and let the gap be closed.

There are no inconsistencies, Madara may not match Juubito in raw power, but he's far, far more skilled.
is actually a logical inconsistency. That's physically and conceptually impossible to pop an eye in and have it instantly work. But, Rin seemingly did the same with kakashi.
is another logical inconsistency. Are we really to believe that those tails pack more power than juubi's tenpachii and a tbb...? What's the point of tbb's then? Kurama can solo with his tail.
Then again, I could be wrong.
 

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How is madara weaker than juubito? Just because obito had juubi jin he's default stronger? Rikudo whipped the juubi with SM. Same SM madara is now touting. Madara seems a lot stronger than juubito right now. Especially seeing as madara got thrown around by 9 tailed beasts(pretty much near fighting the juubi itself), while obito lost to 1 jin and an ems user...?


There are logical explanations lol.
Madara tanking the hits, Using susano'o and reattaching with zetsu arm all have logical explanations and i can think of at least 1 for each. I'm just giving rep to anyone who can give a reason; possibly someone could potentially give a reason i didn't think up.

is actually a logical inconsistency. That's physically and conceptually impossible to pop an eye in and have it instantly work. But, Rin seemingly did the same with kakashi.
is another logical inconsistency. Are we really to believe that those tails pack more power than juubi's tenpachii and a tbb...? What's the point of tbb's then? Kurama can solo with his tail.
Then again, I could be wrong.

It's impossible to implant DNA and for it to work but this is Naruto, a fictional world where people summon meteors and breathe fire, they're not inconsistencies. An inconsistency is something that doesn't stay the same throughout - people have already popped in eyes and used Susano'o without the Sharingan active.

Juubito got defeated by being de-jin'd, therefore losing his healing ability, whereas Madara has gained a similar healing ability by having Hashirama's SM. It's not safe for the Bijuu to be firing off Bijuu damas at such close range and nobody said that the Bijuu's tails are more powerful than Tenpenchii or a Juubi dama.
 

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there are three huge trolls in this chapter that can't be explained:
1)madara using susanoo without his eyes,people will say once awakened MS powers can be used forever,yeah right that's why uchiha needs an EMS to continue using their jutsus.
2)an infinite asspuled durability that madara seems to have,yeah SM helped but still there's a fine line between increased durability and pure BS,madara got sliced in half by a kick now a bijuu smack down he gets out of it with only one arm missing.
3)the arm and eye plug and play,they made me facepalm so hard,the hand might be ok,curtesy of zetsu being madara's creation and made fully of senju DNA,but the eye that was pure BS,they need an expert medic to do that,but oh well every possible asspull is permitted in this manga.
another thing i forgot,the bijuus trying to seal him instead of killing him,give us a break kishi,you're making every character look stupid with this.
now after reading all this do you still expect a logical answer to this?
 

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How is madara weaker than juubito? Just because obito had juubi jin he's default stronger? Rikudo whipped the juubi with SM. Same SM madara is now touting. Madara seems a lot stronger than juubito right now. Especially seeing as madara got thrown around by 9 tailed beasts(pretty much near fighting the juubi itself), while obito lost to 1 jin and an ems user...?


There are logical explanations lol.
Madara tanking the hits, Using susano'o and reattaching with zetsu arm all have logical explanations and i can think of at least 1 for each. I'm just giving rep to anyone who can give a reason; possibly someone could potentially give a reason i didn't think up.

is actually a logical inconsistency. That's physically and conceptually impossible to pop an eye in and have it instantly work. But, Rin seemingly did the same with kakashi.
is another logical inconsistency. Are we really to believe that those tails pack more power than juubi's tenpachii and a tbb...? What's the point of tbb's then? Kurama can solo with his tail.
Then again, I could be wrong.
Your logic is beyond flawed... Juubito lost to Naruto and Sasuke.??? So the entire Sa didn't help them what so ever.??? Also if you really believe Madara with Hashirama sm is stronger than Juubito please re-read this entire Manga...
 

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He probably retained some of his power, but can't use it for a long duration without his eyes.

I like to think of his eye sockets being a hole for his power to seep through....with his eyes intact however, he can blockade that hole and maintain a supply of power.

This is just my assumption.
 

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What did I just read?
There seems to be quite a bit of ret con here. But what'd you expect after 'obito'? There's so many inconsistences with obi to that this pales in comparison.

This was some of that bullshit. 10/10 chapter again though. Madara slowly restoring this manga.

#inmadarawetrust

Edit: repping anyone who can logically answer how mads used susano'o or plug and played zetsus arm though I believe I have a valid explanation.
Because madara is A BOSS:cool:
 

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The Susano'o must be usable without eyes, as Itachi and Madara have both done it now. When an Uchiha reaches the tipping point to unlock Mangekyo, it might be that since their brains are wired differently according to Tobirama, that their Yin Energy power level tremendously increases at this point and that is what enables the Susanno'o.

As for the plug and play Zetsu arm, it is most likely Hashi's healing tech but that dead horse has been beaten a lot today.

The real question is how did Madara survive that 9 Bijuu beatdown? Hashirama must've truly been god of shinobi if his technique can stand that =D
 
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