Top Ninjas in Naruto

[Crossroads]

Re: Top 15

Excluding Rikudou Sennin, Edo Tensei, and in order:
1. Obito Uchiha
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Madara Uchiha [until he receives his ocular abilities back, he'll remain inferior to living Hashirama]
4. Naruto Uzumaki
5. Nagato Uzumaki
6. Sasuke Uchiha [Until he can manifest and harvest Senjutsu without the help of Jugo, he is inferior to Nagato. Perfect Susano'o feats would also suffice to safely place him above Nagato.]
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Killer Bee [Samehada included]
11. Kisame Hoshigaki
12. Muu
13. Sandaime Raikage
14. Nidaime Mizukage
15. Gaara-Sama/Onoki​

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Top 15

Black Zetsu with Senjutsu can overpower him. Sage mode is the key in defeating Juubito, something Madara was confident that it will work on Obito once he takes Sage mode from Hashirama.

Seriously, did you say Madara can have Zetsu erupt from Obito's body? The way you structured that confused me.

 

[Namikun]

Re: Top 15

Please explain why Kabuto is placed on the second spot and Madara on the fourth?

 

[Europa]

Re: Top 15

So by that Logic so can Kabuto.
And the DragonLord reigns supreme yet again.



It's a strange thing to say the least, it doesn't necessarily mean Madara can't suddenly become compatible to the new Senjutsu though.

Which is what I was starting to think. Each one seems to require specific prerequisites. He can only bypass the ones for Hashirama's Sage Mode due to basically having a body near identical.

 

[Penguin]

Re: Top 15

All these people underrating Deidara. u.u

And Sasuke > Nagato. Amaterasu ends it.

 

[Transcendence]

Re: Top 15

Excluding Rikudou Sennin, Edo Tensei, and in order:
1. Obito Uchiha
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Madara Uchiha [until he receives his ocular abilities back, he'll remain inferior to living Hashirama]
4. Naruto Uzumaki
5. Nagato Uzumaki
6. Sasuke Uchiha [Until he can manifest and harvest Senjutsu without the help of Jugo, he is inferior to Nagato. Perfect Susano'o feats would also suffice to safely place him above Nagato.]
7. Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze
9. Itachi Uchiha
10. Killer Bee [Samehada included]
11. Kisame Hoshigaki
12. Muu
13. Sandaime Raikage
14. Gaara-Sama
15. Onoki​

On second thought, I'll comply with this list, albeit, I'll move Muu to 11 spot and Sasuke and Nagato slashed.

 

[Namikun]

Re: Top 15

All these people underrating Deidara. u.u

And Sasuke > Nagato. Amaterasu ends it.

Lol There's no way Sasuke beats Nagato buddy.

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Top 15

Please explain why Kabuto is placed on the second spot and Madara on the fourth?

Because Hashirama and Madara can't stop Edo Tensei. No Sealing Jutsu.

 

[Europa]

Re: Top 15

All these people underrating Deidara. u.u

And Sasuke > Nagato. Amaterasu ends it.

Nah, not really. Sasuke can beat Nagato through Kirin though.

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Top 15

Nah, not really. Sasuke can beat Nagato through Kirin though.

I wonder if Shinra Tensei can blast back Ninjutsu...

 

[Crossroads]

Re: Top 15

On second thought, I'll comply with this list, albeit, I'll move Muu to 11 spot and Sasuke and Nagato slashed.

I edited my list, good sir. I placed the Nidaime Mizukage above Gaara and place him at #14, and pushed Gaara up to #15.. which places Onoki at #16 and out of my personal top 15.​

 

[Namikun]

Re: Top 15

Because Hashirama and Madara can't stop Edo Tensei. No Sealing Jutsu.

Where would you place him without the Edo Tensei though?

 

[Bronze]

Re: Top 15

Seriously, did you say Madara can have Zetsu erupt from Obito's body? The way you structured that confused me.

I edited my post replying to you. It should make sense now.

 

[Penguin]

Re: Top 15

Lol There's no way Sasuke beats Nagato buddy.

Amaterasu ends it. Nagato would have been killed via Amaterasu, but Kabuto was controlling Nagato. Nagato would not be able to think properly with half of his body lit up with Amaterasu. The Pain itself would be unbearable.

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Top 15

Where would you place him without the Edo Tensei though?

Number 6 or number 7. He's somewhere around Nagato's level imo.

 

[NOemotions]

Re: Top 15

Pretty good list.

 

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

Black Zetsu with Senjutsu can overpower him. Sage mode is the key in defeating Juubito, something Madara was confident that it will work on Obito once he takes Sage mode from Hashirama.



The black rod inside Obito's body which Madara implanted years ago [

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] are created from Madara's will [

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] and black Zetsu is Madara's will. So with Sage mode he obtained from Hashirama, he can manifest black Zetsu from black rod inside Obito's body which should look like this [

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] and with Senjutsu this time, Black Zetsu will completely overpower and beat Obito.

A trump card and tactic Madara was confident that it will work.

Black zetsu doesn't have senjutsu with him. Also, black zetsu can only overpower and control obito when he is weakned. Juubi jin obito wouldn't feel a thing.
Yeah, SM is the only way to beat obito, but that doesn't mean that "gets senjutsu, beats obito." We didn't even see madara's senpou atacks, so we can't say that.
Obito still has a beast defense and durability, being able to withstand many atacks.

 

[Penguin]

Re: Top 15

I edited my post replying to you. It should make sense now.

One could say that is prep time. u.u

 

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

Amaterasu ends it. Nagato would have been killed via Amaterasu, but Kabuto was controlling Nagato. Nagato would not be able to think properly with half of his body lit up with Amaterasu. The Pain itself would be unbearable.

He could just absorb it. Madara did it every fine. Raikage also had no problem with the pain.
But nagato loses, PS is too much.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Re: Top 15

Kakashi? I don't buy in to the Kamui validity. If we factor that in, Kakashi is undoubtedly top 7-10 then.

Kakuzu? Debate on the matter extensively on top of seeing the best Kakuzu debater on the site (DrProof) lose to Owarjj when Owarjj was using Sasori.

Danzo and Ohnoki are both debatable, but I haven't seen flight speed feats to suggest that he'll dodge a seemingly endless barrage of poison tipped weapons.

The other two? Highly debatable. Probably should have put them higher than both Sasori and Kisame, but I'll remake this list another time.

As if Kamui is the only decider. I don't understand how you can't "buy into its validity" when it's backed up by numerous manga sources.

Two debaters going at it doesn't really account for much in another argument - it may very well have just been down to the judges liking Owarij's style of debate above all else, as that is what is important in a debate.

I could argue for Danzo all day. Onoki can form rock from his limbs, so he can pretty much laugh off his weaker weapons. not to mention the fact that Onoki completely dominated the playing field with Doton in that scenario.

The lady two aren't highly debatable at all. Sasori has nothing that can extensively hurt that man that laughed off a Bijuu Dama to the face (?) and he's not going to hurt the Mizukage when he liquefies.